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Old Nov 27, 2012, 04:30 AM   #1
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Fastest way to put all my apps back into folders?

I'm about to leave on a trip and have been having fits trying to get my iPad Mini configured like my iPad 2.

What is the fastest way to put all my single apps back into the folders I originally had them in before I sync'd / restored?

My path to this point:
iTunes on the system I always sync to gave an odd "data services" error, so I couldn't sync my iPad 2 and do a backup and restore that to my Mini.

Therefore, I had to sync my iPad 2 to my laptop. I read that the iTunes process was:
1) Authorize the laptop, 2) Transfer Purchases 3) Backup 4) Sync
I did exactly that.

Result:
On my 64gb iPad 2, all my carefully organized 28gb of app folders were gone. Only single apps covering 11 screens, and a bunch of my travel apps 'gone' (off the screen). I might have shed a tear of frustration. I just don't have time for this.

So that's what I restored to my Mini.

What's the fastest way to get all those apps back into their folders on my Mini?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 06:01 AM   #2
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iCloud backup and restore. Don't use iTunes.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 07:47 AM   #3
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iCloud backup and restore. Don't use iTunes.
Is that an answer to my question?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 08:03 AM   #4
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Is that an answer to my question?
Since it was a response to your question, I would imagine so.

I always do screenshots of how my device is set up including the folder contents so its easier to get it back up if the restore from backup doesn't work.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 08:47 AM   #5
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1. Back up iPad 2 to iCloud.

2. Set up iPad Mini from iPad 2 iCloud Backup.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:36 AM   #6
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1. Back up iPad 2 to iCloud.

2. Set up iPad Mini from iPad 2 iCloud Backup.
But... in my original post, I said:

Result:
On my 64gb iPad 2, all my carefully organized 28gb of app folders were gone. Only single apps covering 11 screens, and a bunch of my travel apps 'gone' (off the screen). I might have shed a tear of frustration. I just don't have time for this.


If I back up my iPad 2 to iCloud now, it would backup my now-awful config of my iPad 2: all my app folders are gone on my iPad 2.

Or, are you saying that there is some "magic" in doing this backup where my former folder arrangement (before it was wiped by iTunes) can be remembered?

That's why I asked darngooddesign how was that an answer to my question. I interpret the iCloud answer to be a way to PREVENT what already happened.

What I'm asking is now that I have:
1) an iPad 2 with NO app folders and a million single apps
2) an iPad Mini that needs to be setup

What is the fastest way to put all my single apps back into the folders I originally had them in on my iPad 2?

THEN, I can do the backup and restore as suggested.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:40 AM   #7
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I would use iTunes.

Connect your iPad to your laptop via the USB cable. Organize the apps in iTunes under the Apps tab. As you move apps into folders, I would sync with the device every time you clear one or two pages in case it messes up some how.

It's faster than doing it by your finger on the actual device.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 09:44 AM   #8
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...That's why I asked darngooddesign how was that an answer to my question. I interpret the iCloud answer to be a way to PREVENT what already happened.
I guess we all assumed that since the Mini was a last minute purchase before leaving on a trip you still had your iPad 2. If not, you're out of luck.

However, it is faster to arrange your apps in iTunes on your computer.

I believe your travel apps are on your iPad, its just that they are outside your maximum 11 screens. If you were to quickly combine enough apps to folders upon restart they will show up.

I know you don't have time for this, but you'll have to make it anyway. Its always a bad idea to do stuff like this right before a trip, and I know because I bravely updated but my devices to iOS6 two days before leaving on one.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 11:04 AM   #9
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Connect your iPad to your laptop via the USB cable. Organize the apps in iTunes under the Apps tab.
Doing that now.

2 questions:

1) I see that Apple iTunes already knows what category an app falls into.

Is there a way to make iTunes automatically create folders with those category names and put apps into those folders?

I need to stop relying on these apps so much. This is the third time this has happened to me. (Last time on my iPhone when doing an upgrade from 4.3.x to 4.3.5 I think. It was advertised as a security only upgrade, and it bricked my iPhone. Restore failed. Apps were everywhere.)

2) Anyone here know iTunes internals?
Which files in the backup contain the memory of my folder organization?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 01:25 PM   #10
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Like others said, use iCloud for backups so this doesn't happen to you a fourth time.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 03:59 PM   #11
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Like others said, use iCloud for backups so this doesn't happen to you a fourth time.
I can use iCloud as long as it's just for apps and folder arrangements, but not for contacts or calendar which contains company confidential info.

Even if that weren't the case, I would not want to put all my personal contacts or calendar in any cloud. Apple's cloud is a big target. It will be hacked. Plus, even if that weren't a risk, I don't want to lose right to search and seizure, which would occur unless I own the cloud.

I am totally fine syncing my apps and folder arrangements to the cloud.

I'd still need to sync contacts and calendar to microsoft Outlook 2012 via iTunes

Is this possible?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 04:10 PM   #12
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Don't use iCloud backups. They only restore apps that are still in the App Store. PC backups will restore ALL of your apps.

I have had that problem of the apps being out of their folders after a reset and restore before - or restoring onto a new device. What fixed it for me was doing another "restore from backup". This time round it shouldn't need to reinstall of your apps, but it should revert their data and restore your folders.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 08:38 AM   #13
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Doing that now.

2 questions:

1) I see that Apple iTunes already knows what category an app falls into.

Is there a way to make iTunes automatically create folders with those category names and put apps into those folders?
As long as you drag two similar apps together, it should know roughly what to name the folder. My guess is they take the category that the app falls into and use that as the folder name.

If you don't want to sync to iCloud, I would make backing up to your computer a frequent practice. If you don't want to do that, then at least make sure you do a complete backup before making any major changes to the OS, or switching/upgrading devices.

Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but iCloud backup of apps just sync's what apps you have right? (Not necessarily all the login's and settings.) Every time I've had to change devices or restore from backup, I've had to re-login to every app.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 09:47 AM   #14
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You don't need iCloud to restore everything back to folders. I just went through a similar process. This is what I did through iTunes:

1. Backup iPad 2
2. Plug in new iPad, restore - then transfer purchases.
You should now see a ton of unorganized apps.
3. Update new iPad to latest software, assuming iPad 2 was running 6.0.1.
4. After new iPad's software has matched iPad 2's software, then go ahead restore once again from the iPad 2 backup. Once this restore is completed, all apps should return to their respective folders like you had on the iPad 2.

I have noticed a glitch in the restore procedure when the software versions do not match. It doesn't always happen but I have noticed it with the latest devices. Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 12:06 PM   #15
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I can use iCloud as long as it's just for apps and folder arrangements, but not for contacts or calendar which contains company confidential info.

Even if that weren't the case, I would not want to put all my personal contacts or calendar in any cloud. Apple's cloud is a big target. It will be hacked. Plus, even if that weren't a risk, I don't want to lose right to search and seizure, which would occur unless I own the cloud.

I am totally fine syncing my apps and folder arrangements to the cloud.

I'd still need to sync contacts and calendar to microsoft Outlook 2012 via iTunes

Is this possible?
I'm pretty sure backup and syncing contacts/calendar are separate from each other, and you can backup to iCloud while still syncing contacts/calendar with Outlook.

I have my iPad and iPhone set up to backup to iCloud, then whenever I connect my devices to iTunes, I do a manual backup by right-clicking and selecting backup. This way, I have backups both in the cloud and on my computer.
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