You know the thing I live about iphone compared to android..

shenfrey said:

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Few points:

Just because you didn't use 50% of the 'features' doesn't make them useless and poorly implemented.

If you use all the features then the chances are there aren't enough to cater for everyone.

"All I did was phone, message and watch YouTube." So the iPhone has given you new tasks/jobs to do on your phone? ("It holds all my appointments. Reminders, photos. Videos, etc")

"I could certainly NEVER go back to android." That's assuming iOS and Android never change in relation to one and other...

While you're certainly entitled to your opinion, everything you have described that your iPhone 5 is so wonderful for doing can be done on most any recent smartphone.

I've found that in terms of calendar services and other things that you've described, Android does a far better job at integration.

But its good that you're happy with your iPhone anyway.

I've just recently figured out what it is about android that drives me away.

Logically Android has always been the right choice for me but I've always preferred iOS.

The single reason I don't get an android phone - I HATE THE MEDIA EXPERIENCE. I cannot get my head round consuming media, especially music, on android devices! Maybe I've just been conditioned by apple, but it's just such an intuitive app!

Anyway I just felt like telling someone that and didn't want to make a whole new thread

Of all things, the media experience? Really?

I'll admit, I don't care for the media experience that comes out of the box, but I love the fact that I can download apps that I can set as default to play all my different media types.

A BIG thing for me is that I can connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows onto my Galaxy S3/Nexus 10. This was the biggest drawcard for me, as I store all my media on the server.

If iOS devices would let me do that, I'd probably be more inclined to use them. But the fact they don't was a real dealbreaker for me.

Krimsonmyst said:

While you're certainly entitled to your opinion, everything you have described that your iPhone 5 is so wonderful for doing can be done on most any recent smartphone.

I've found that in terms of calendar services and other things that you've described, Android does a far better job at integration.

But its good that you're happy with your iPhone anyway.

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It's definitely a different strokes for different folks kind of thing. Although, I've definitely found that non-techies, like my parents, will tend to get more out of their iPhones than they do out of an Android out of the box.

I think by calendar services you probably mean Google, because Android's support for Exchange is certifiably awful. And most of the apps trying to fill that gap are equally useless.

Of course, the only reason why iOS's implementation works better is because Apple gives a boatload of money to Microsoft each release to license Exchange/ActiveSync. Google does not. Why would they when they have their own cloud alternatives to push to businesses?

That said, I can't stand Apple's Calendar app UI as I find it dated, and brutally inefficient. The first app I ever downloaded was something to replace it with - I must have spent over $20 here and there to find an App that addressed my calendaring needs.

I now use the highly efficient Fantastical and it satisfies most of my frustrations.

Krimsonmyst said:

Of all things, the media experience? Really?

I'll admit, I don't care for the media experience that comes out of the box, but I love the fact that I can download apps that I can set as default to play all my different media types.

A BIG thing for me is that I can connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows onto my Galaxy S3/Nexus 10. This was the biggest drawcard for me, as I store all my media on the server.

If iOS devices would let me do that, I'd probably be more inclined to use them. But the fact they don't was a real dealbreaker for me.

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Wouldn't AirPlay accomplish this? I don't use my devices or media like that, but I would think that would work.

Yujenisis said:

I think by calendar services you probably mean Google, because Android's support for Exchange is certifiably awful. And most of the apps trying to fill that gap are equally useless.

Of course, the only reason why iOS's implementation works better is because Apple gives a boatload of money to Microsoft each release to license Exchange/ActiveSync. Google does not. Why would they when they have their own cloud alternatives to push to businesses?

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I do mean Google, yes. Mainly between multiple Gmail Accounts/Calendars/Notes etc.

Interstella5555 said:

Wouldn't AirPlay accomplish this? I don't use my devices or media like that, but I would think that would work.

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I use AirVideo for this and it works great.

You have to also kind of consider that this is a new world for you, so the reason you're using 'every feature' is because you're exploring and it's all new to you.
I've had the iPhone for several years now and I used to use 'every feature' until I just got comfortable with just using what I need.

Plus the things you mentioned can be done on any smartphone, android, blackberry, WP7/8 etc.

Krimsonmyst said:

Of all things, the media experience? Really?

I'll admit, I don't care for the media experience that comes out of the box, but I love the fact that I can download apps that I can set as default to play all my different media types.

A BIG thing for me is that I can connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows onto my Galaxy S3/Nexus 10. This was the biggest drawcard for me, as I store all my media on the server.

If iOS devices would let me do that, I'd probably be more inclined to use them. But the fact they don't was a real dealbreaker for me.

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I stream things from my server just fine on my iPhone. Tons of apps for this already.

The thing that really soured my experience on Android was how much of a PITA it was when I swapped out a phone for a replacement or when I wiped the phone because it was starting to lag like crazy.

I came from an iPhone 4 to an Android phone running Gingerbread, and I was spoiled by the fact that all of the little details of your phone are backed up with iTunes without you having to worry about it. When I restored my Android phone (even using Titanium Backup on a rooted phone), I lost all my text messages and call history. Gone. Titanium Backup had backed up all my apps and specific folders and wallpaper settings but strangely didn't touch call history or texts. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I had to have two specific third-party apps to backup my call history and my text messages.

It was then that I really understood the beauty of the iOS experience. Needless to say, I've since sold that Android phone and now have an iPhone 5. Maybe Android now backs up call history and texts automatically, but I know Gingerbread didn't; and the latest numbers I've seen show that 75+% of Android handsets are still running Gingerbread or older.

I've gone from iPhone 3G -> desire HD -> becoming ultimately frustrated with my laggy android experience -> iPhone 4 -> galaxy nexus to try the vanilla android experience -> selling it after a few months -> borrowed iPhone 3GS for a few months -> iPhone 5 since launch day

I've tried Android twice and honestly, my iOS experience was far superior.

The nexus 4 is beautiful, the S3 is a fantastic phone etc but I prefer the look and feel of iOS. I prefer the games, the superior gaming performance and UI fluidity of the seemingly 'under specced' iPhone. I use an iPad and a mac as my other two devices with heavy reminders/calendar use. My iPhone syncs in with them two much more seemlessly via iCloud than my android devices did.

The increasing size of android phones don't do it for me either. For my uses and preferences, browsing and consuming media extensively on a 4 inch screen is the same as browsing on a 4.8 inch screen - they are both trumped by browsing on an iPad which is what I prefer to do.

This is all my own opinion though. Android has come a long way and some people prefer the larger screens because it works better for them and I totally understand that. I don't hate big screens on phones but they just don't do it for me.

I don't hate android either. It's just that for my lifestyle, an iOS device helps me get my work done more efficiently (hello there, iCloud) and lets me enjoy myself more with its more extensive gaming catalogue.

If iOS didn't exist, where would I go? The answers fairly simple, I'd go for the next best thing for my daily routine - Android

Interstella5555 said:

Wouldn't AirPlay accomplish this? I don't use my devices or media like that, but I would think that would work.

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Pfft, iTunes did that even before Airplay. With stock apps. Silly people above.

don't understand people saying iOS is smoother than Android (high end at least)

I've only got a new iPad to compare to but my JB S3 is definitely as smooth

also the delay in bringing down the notification centre in iOS is really annoying

You know what they say? It just works

nickchallis92 said:

don't understand people saying iOS is smoother than Android (high end at least)

I've only got a new iPad to compare to but my JB S3 is definitely as smooth

also the delay in bringing down the notification centre in iOS is really annoying

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The stigma that android is slow and laggy largely originated due to early android devices not having the hardware to support the OS.

Anyone who can be rational about it, and who has used any device with 4.1+ will admit that it is JUST as fluid as ios, if not more in some cases.

A lot of people also use the argument that 70% of android handsets are still running gingerbread, but realistically, if you buy any android handset that is relatively up to date, you'll at least have ICS.

Krimsonmyst said:

Of all things, the media experience? Really?

I'll admit, I don't care for the media experience that comes out of the box, but I love the fact that I can download apps that I can set as default to play all my different media types.

A BIG thing for me is that I can connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows onto my Galaxy S3/Nexus 10. This was the biggest drawcard for me, as I store all my media on the server.

If iOS devices would let me do that, I'd probably be more inclined to use them. But the fact they don't was a real dealbreaker for me.

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I hate capitalizing and bolding my word but I have to this time.

YOU CAN connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows ON YOUR iOS DEVICES! Just download the AcePlayer app. It has SMB network support!

haruhiko said:

I hate capitalizing and bolding my word but I have to this time.

Will it let you do it when you're not on the same wireless network?
YOU CAN connect to an external NAS to stream movies and TV shows ON YOUR iOS DEVICES! Just download the AcePlayer app. It has SMB network support!

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Can you do it when you're not on the same wireless network?

Krimsonmyst said:

The stigma that android is slow and laggy largely originated due to early android devices not having the hardware to support the OS.

Anyone who can be rational about it, and who has used any device with 4.1+ will admit that it is JUST as fluid as ios, if not more in some cases.

A lot of people also use the argument that 70% of android handsets are still running gingerbread, but realistically, if you buy any android handset that is relatively up to date, you'll at least have ICS.

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First of all Jellybean is most certainly still not up to par with the smoothness and accuracy of iOS. While the rendering is defitnetly much smoother on JB (everything is smooth ; at least most of the time and there isnt any more screen tearing) but when you put your finger down on the screen and scroll up and down or whatever, it doesnt follow your finger as fast and as precise as iOS devices. There is a slight lag in touch response and it most certainly feels weird. But kudos to Google, Jelly Bean is a huge update from what it used to be although a Jelly Bean like update should of been out on Android a long time ago

shenfrey said:

I never used its front facing camera. I never used all of the Samsung apps that it shipped with. I never used any of the pro features that are found inside its settings and I rarely even used the rear facing camera or even play games! All I did was phone, message and watch YouTube.

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So I assume you don't use the iPhone 5's FaceTime HD camera either?

You use all the apps that Apple shipped with the iPhone 5?

Even garbage like Game Center and Newsstand?

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Bahroo said:

First of all Jellybean is most certainly still not up to par with the smoothness and accuracy of iOS. While the rendering is defitnetly much smoother on JB (everything is smooth ; at least most of the time and there isnt any more screen tearing) but when you put your finger down on the screen and scroll up and down or whatever, it doesnt follow your finger as fast and as precise as iOS devices. There is a slight lag in touch response and it most certainly feels weird. But kudos to Google, Jelly Bean is a huge update from what it used to be although a Jelly Bean like update should of been out on Android a long time ago

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Jelly bean is really close to what iOS is though. I was actually surprised it was that good.

Bahroo said:

First of all Jellybean is most certainly still not up to par with the smoothness and accuracy of iOS. While the rendering is defitnetly much smoother on JB (everything is smooth ; at least most of the time and there isnt any more screen tearing) but when you put your finger down on the screen and scroll up and down or whatever, it doesnt follow your finger as fast and as precise as iOS devices. There is a slight lag in touch response and it most certainly feels weird. But kudos to Google, Jelly Bean is a huge update from what it used to be although a Jelly Bean like update should of been out on Android a long time ago

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I disagree here, but I think that might be because of a difference in devices.

My Galaxy S3 is running 4.1.2, and I can honestly say that I feel it is just as smooth as iOS is.

However, I've played with a One X running 4.1.1, and it is choppy from time to time. It seems that the Sense overlay chew up more RAM than TouchWiz does, and CERTAINLY more than what stock Android does.

Krimsonmyst said:

Can you do it when you're not on the same wireless network?

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According to the app it supports UPnP / DLNA servers and FTP servers too.