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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:07 PM   #26
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So your saying its gonna go from 1tb to 3tb I hope not based on the price of the 3tb time capsule
Yes...those are the only 5 options for storage on the 27" iMac.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:12 PM   #27
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Makes no sense to offer just 768 unless they are trying to push the fusion. 256 doable. 512 expensive. 768 obscenely expensive by regular standards forget about the apple tax
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:15 PM   #28
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Makes no sense to offer just 768 unless they are trying to push the fusion. 256 doable. 512 expensive. 768 obscenely expensive by regular standards forget about the apple tax
That is exactly what they are doing. People who need that much Flash storage are willing to pay for it.

Others will get 95% of the benefit via Fusion.

Plus, it limits the number of SKU's they have to build.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:20 PM   #29
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The more I think about it this setup is going to kind of screw me. I always planned on getting a 27" iMac with 256 ssd and 2tb. Fusion drive won't work for me cause I need 2 sep drives for protools. 1 for system and 1 for recording. I guess i could get the fusion and split it but 128 is cutting it close.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:23 PM   #30
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The more I think about it this setup is going to kind of screw me. I always planned on getting a 27" iMac with 256 ssd and 2tb. Fusion drive won't work for me cause I need 2 sep drives for protools. 1 for system and 1 for recording. I guess i could get the fusion and split it but 128 is cutting it close.
Buy it with the 1TB Hard Drive, and get a Thunderbolt drive with an SSD in it. Solves that problem.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:34 PM   #31
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Buy it with the 1TB Hard Drive, and get a Thunderbolt drive with an SSD in it. Solves that problem.
I was thinking of doing a 1TB fusion myself + 256GB external SSD for photos
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 08:44 PM   #32
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I dunno about an external system drive.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 09:43 PM   #34
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What about this????
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Up to 768GB of flash storage.
For maximum performance, you can configure a 27-inch iMac with 768GB of flash storage instead of a traditional hard drive.

which sounds again like it's only the 768GB SSD that can replace the standard HDD
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 10:00 PM   #35
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What about this????
It's because you get 128GB with the fusion drive.
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Old Nov 26, 2012, 11:09 PM   #36
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What about this????
Maybe it's because you cannot physically store 768GB on a 768GB SSD. The drive cannot rewrite the same area on disc, so data needs to be relocated each time you rewrite. So it is up to 768GB of storage, but most people will not ever get that much storage unless it is archived data that will never get rewritten. It is good for photo archiving, etc.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 01:59 AM   #37
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What are we expecting the price being for the 768gb SSD and the 3TB fusion drive?

If the 3TB Fusion Drive is much cheaper it seems like a great deal (as long as it's not too much more than 1TB Fusion.)
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 08:50 AM   #38
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newbie question

I am in a similar position... photographer with terabytes of files...going from PC to imac.

Why not use one of the usb ports instead of the thunderbolt with its expensive adapter? I will use thunderbolt with adapter for my firewire but planned to hook all my ext hard drives through usb....

advice?
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 08:55 AM   #39
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curious,

In the example of maintaining your Userfiles on an external drive, how would you go about backups?
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 10:21 AM   #40
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I am in a similar position... photographer with terabytes of files...going from PC to imac.

Why not use one of the usb ports instead of the thunderbolt with its expensive adapter? I will use thunderbolt with adapter for my firewire but planned to hook all my ext hard drives through usb....

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There is no advantage of Thunderbolt over USB-3 when using hard disks as both interfaces are limited by the speed of the disks. If you are using external SSDs then you probably will want to use Thunderbolt.

Here are some results of tests I did recently:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...70&postcount=9


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Old Nov 28, 2012, 11:10 AM   #41
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There is no advantage of Thunderbolt over USB-3 when using hard disks as both interfaces are limited by the speed of the disks. If you are using external SSDs then you probably will want to use Thunderbolt.

Here are some results of tests I did recently:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...70&postcount=9


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Thanks, Howard - this is exactly the kind of advice I was hoping to get. Another question - do you have any reason to believe the Seagate Backup Plus 3TB external HDDs will NOT work smooth with my (future) iMac 2012?
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 11:59 AM   #42
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That is exactly what they are doing. People who need that much Flash storage are willing to pay for it.

Others will get 95% of the benefit via Fusion.

Plus, it limits the number of SKU's they have to build.
The difference between a decent size 100% SSD and a 128gb ssd coupled with fusion is way greater than 5%.

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There is no advantage of Thunderbolt over USB-3 when using hard disks as both interfaces are limited by the speed of the disks. If you are using external SSDs then you probably will want to use Thunderbolt.

Here are some results of tests I did recently:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...70&postcount=9


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Your 7200 drives on internal are a bit slow at 80's. I've seen most in the low 100's. Internal 7200 drives will be a little faster than the same drive on a usb 3 port I think. Also 7200 drives on TB would probably do a bit better than usb 3 also (real world). As far as ssd's, yes TB only would make sense.

Anyway, some good info here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/external-har...5169645-2.html
and some screamers here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/external-har...5429992-2.html
and a roundup:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...rld-after-all/
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