Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Special Interests > Mac and PC Games

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Aug 15, 2013, 10:03 AM   #26
CubeHacker
macrumors 65816
 
CubeHacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Oblivion is possible without quest markers on the map and compass, due to the fact that the quest log provides detailed enough information about who you need to find or where you need to go.

Skyrim on the other hand threw out much of that information from the quest log, and decided to guide players mostly by map trackers. I am fairly certain that on most quests, you would have no idea where to go or who to speak with to complete the quest.
CubeHacker is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2013, 10:26 AM   #27
Huntn
macrumors 603
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tallest Tree in The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by CubeHacker View Post
Oblivion is possible without quest markers on the map and compass, due to the fact that the quest log provides detailed enough information about who you need to find or where you need to go.

Skyrim on the other hand threw out much of that information from the quest log, and decided to guide players mostly by map trackers. I am fairly certain that on most quests, you would have no idea where to go or who to speak with to complete the quest.
Much is based on how the info is presented. If a quest giver tells you to go to the such-and-such cave, because it has a name, it would follow that someone in the realm would know its location and even be able to mark it on a map. Or I can also see being told where this person lives and go find them. Most towns are rather small.

However, if the quest giver says the bad mage disappeared into the North and his location is unknown, this would be an impossible or at best a time consuming proposition that most players would not accept.

Consequently I can accept a quest giver saying go here, and putting a mark on your map.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2013, 12:29 AM   #28
rasmasyean
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post
Much is based on how the info is presented. If a quest giver tells you to go to the such-and-such cave, because it has a name, it would follow that someone in the realm would know its location and even be able to mark it on a map. Or I can also see being told where this person lives and go find them. Most towns are rather small.

However, if the quest giver says the bad mage disappeared into the North and his location is unknown, this would be an impossible or at best a time consuming proposition that most players would not accept.

Consequently I can accept a quest giver saying go here, and putting a mark on your map.
I think it depends on the type of player. There are many games with riddles and puzzles and such where the whole point is to figure it out with clues. There's a bit of that gameplay in the dungeons, but I'm afraid you're right on the majority of "action adventure" players, who expect a more shooter style with knifing. But that is really the whole point of "missing mage". But yeah, there was this missing girl who was looking for herbs on an island, but she was at the bottom of a stream and there's no way you would be able to figure that out given the dialog. I do remember reading in a book or something that treasure can be found in waters, but not sure if I found the book anywhere near of related to the quest. So you would pretty much have to "run into it treasure hunting" without the arrows.
__________________
Cure diseases with your unused processor power!
You can make a difference!
Folding@Home - Distributed Computing
rasmasyean is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2013, 08:18 AM   #29
Huntn
macrumors 603
 
Huntn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tallest Tree in The Misty Mountains
Quote:
Originally Posted by rasmasyean View Post
I think it depends on the type of player. There are many games with riddles and puzzles and such where the whole point is to figure it out with clues. There's a bit of that gameplay in the dungeons, but I'm afraid you're right on the majority of "action adventure" players, who expect a more shooter style with knifing. But that is really the whole point of "missing mage". But yeah, there was this missing girl who was looking for herbs on an island, but she was at the bottom of a stream and there's no way you would be able to figure that out given the dialog. I do remember reading in a book or something that treasure can be found in waters, but not sure if I found the book anywhere near of related to the quest. So you would pretty much have to "run into it treasure hunting" without the arrows.
I think the solution is specific map quest markers or general location markers that can be turned off or on. I remember trying to find this person located at an alter up on top of the mountain. Even having the map marked it took me a while to figure out how to get up there. And I remember the guy who lives in an ice cave (with an little door) out north of the Mage college in the ice fields imagining finding him without a marker.
__________________
The modern business ethos: "I'm worth it, you're not, and I'm a glutton!"
MBP, 2.2 GHz intel i7, Radeon HD 6750M, Bootcamp: W7.
PC: i5 4670k, 8GB RAM, Asus GTX670 (2GB VRAM), W7.
Huntn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2013, 01:18 PM   #30
doh123
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntn View Post
I think the solution is specific map quest markers or general location markers that can be turned off or on. I remember trying to find this person located at an alter up on top of the mountain. Even having the map marked it took me a while to figure out how to get up there. And I remember the guy who lives in an ice cave (with an little door) out north of the Mage college in the ice fields imagining finding him without a marker.
thats what clairvoyance is for... in a few places it messes up, but in most places it works, and it shows the path you need to walk, including taking you to the paths up mountains. Makes it super easy even more so than the pointer itself.... but at least its "magic" that you are using to figure something out so it kind of fits in the story.
doh123 is offline   1 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > Special Interests > Mac and PC Games

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:30 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC