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Old Feb 14, 2013, 08:40 PM   #26
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Regression testing. Spend the money on it.

At the company I work at, we do tests on edge to LTE data on AT&T and Verizon (Sprint is also coming soon). The programmers work hand in hand with the testers to create as many scenarios as possible. We even go to client sites and test new releases. The end client has to be 100% happy.
This is not the only repeat major security bug in iOS 6.1! I found one last night. You can use universal search to find iMessages that have been deleted!

I was shocked when I found it. I have reported the issue to all the tech sites. I hope one of them will publish it so Apple fixes the issue!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 09:32 PM   #27
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And the faithful still insists "it just works." This is how you know when you're a fanboy. When you have patience/understanding and put up with issues after issue (Battery Drain, Exchange Sync, Bypass Security Code, etc...) all the while bad mouthing another OS if it had the same issues. And running back to iOS claiming it just works, and never has issues.
Face it, iOS is just like any other OS. It's not perfect.
It just works =/= it is perfect.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:26 PM   #28
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Eh, there will always be bugs in any software release. As far as this one, I don't think it's a "big deal" since it takes several steps to make it work. The regular person won't figure this out. Of course, an informed person is a completely different story.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 11:31 PM   #29
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The real security problem

The real security problem is:
Who leaves their phone laying around in a strange place with the idea that since it has a passcodelock it's 'secure'?! If you don't trust the people around you with your phone and think they'd be waiting for any chance they could get to see your contacts and make calls then you've got bigger problems! And who just leaves their phone laying around in public, people take it to the john to check emails and play Angry Birds, it's not something you leave laying around, except at home and those should be people you trust?! And no passcode lock is gonna keep someone from stealing the damn thing anyway if you just leave it laying around!
Dur.

OMG - what if they called Fiji?!
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 01:27 AM   #30
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Any theories as to why Apple is having such Exchange problems? They should be onto this since
1) Apples are widely used in business for business email
2) Apple aren't pushing their own servers to businesses for email

So I'd assume that bad exchange would be bad for Apple but they don't seem too interested in fixing it? Exchange is a simpler standard than other emailing solutions since there is only one standard, it's not like IMAP which has a huge range of different implementations to support.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:41 AM   #31
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:48 AM   #32
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This is not the only repeat major security bug in iOS 6.1! I found one last night. You can use universal search to find iMessages that have been deleted!

I was shocked when I found it. I have reported the issue to all the tech sites. I hope one of them will publish it so Apple fixes the issue!!!
Wow, you can see deleted messages with the search function? That is actually quite disturbing to hear. Apple get your act together!

Are these the first signs of the changes in the iOS lead? Apple better do something big for iOS 7, like actually providing some useful new stuff and improvements for future multi-core architectures.

If Apple doesn´t have enough people for QA, they need to hire ASAP.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:36 AM   #33
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Heard about Google search engine ?

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Imagine this: Your iphone has no problems. You are happy.....and now tell me to go google for bugs? Why? I am happy......get a life!
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 12:11 PM   #34
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Imagine this: Your iphone has no problems.
One can only IMAGINE an iPhone with no problems. Too bad REALITY is the opposite.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 01:43 PM   #35
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This is not the only repeat major security bug in iOS 6.1! I found one last night. You can use universal search to find iMessages that have been deleted!

I was shocked when I found it. I have reported the issue to all the tech sites. I hope one of them will publish it so Apple fixes the issue!!!
It's not really a bug per se, and has been working like that for a long time. The spotlight functionality indexes data on the phone for searching, and keeps that index separate, so when you delete something the update to the search index doesn't happen instantly and takes a little time to go through when the next reindexing happens. You can turn off messages (and then turn them back on) in spotlight settings to reset that, or I believe restarting the phone will cause that to happen as well.

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Dear Tim,
Regression testing. Spend the money on it.

At the company I work at, we do tests on edge to LTE data on AT&T and Verizon (Sprint is also coming soon). The programmers work hand in hand with the testers to create as many scenarios as possible. We even go to client sites and test new releases. The end client has to be 100% happy.
And you still probably end up with some weird bug or issue here and there even after all that testing.

That's not to say that more testing wouldn't be good--it would be--but it would still never identify all the possible issues no matter what.

That's real world software for you, especially when it's as complex as an operating system and as widespread as something like iOS is.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:17 PM   #36
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It's not really a bug per se, and has been working like that for a long time. The spotlight functionality indexes data on the phone for searching, and keeps that index separate, so when you delete something the update to the search index doesn't happen instantly and takes a little time to go through when the next reindexing happens. You can turn off messages (and then turn them back on) in spotlight settings to reset that, or I believe restarting the phone will cause that to happen as well.[COLOR="#808080"]
This exact thing happened before and was widely reported and acknowledged by Apple as a bug and later fixed! It is not meant to maintain that history once you delete the messages!

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Wow, you can see deleted messages with the search function? That is actually quite disturbing to hear. Apple get your act together!

Are these the first signs of the changes in the iOS lead? Apple better do something big for iOS 7, like actually providing some useful new stuff and improvements for future multi-core architectures.

If Apple doesn´t have enough people for QA, they need to hire ASAP.
Yes it is true. And this exact bug happened before and was widely reported and acknowledged by Apple as a mistake. Universal search is not meant to maintain that message history once you delete messages. They fixed it in a subsequent update, and yet here it is AGAIN! THREE BIG bugs in iOS 6.1 TWO of which are happening for the SECOND TIME now!!!

Why won't anyone report this? I have sent it to everyone multiple times including MacRumors. You'd think they would want all the media attention it would for sure generate given the current situation!

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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:37 PM   #37
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I'll be sure to stop including the social security numbers, birthdates, and other vital statistics of all my contacts. God forbid someone hack my phone and find my mother's phone number. One call to her would be punishment enough.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 12:18 PM   #38
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And the faithful still insists "it just works." This is how you know when you're a fanboy. When you have patience/understanding and put up with issues after issue (Battery Drain, Exchange Sync, Bypass Security Code, etc...) all the while bad mouthing another OS if it had the same issues. And running back to iOS claiming it just works, and never has issues.
Face it, iOS is just like any other OS. It's not perfect.
and there are tons of bugs on Android's latest software, Android 4.2

They just found how to get into a rooted phone even if it has a lock screen, and the malware/virus problem on Android is slowly starting to get out of control, id say iOS's problems are much less problematic then Android's problems.

at least when Apple identifies a issue, they release a fix in less then one week, unlike waiting on Android for months
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 04:32 PM   #39
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Make calls without lock password!

You don't have to do all those key combos just to make a call! Just hold the home button and wait for voice control and say "call mobile number" and it will ring whatever number you tell it to :-)

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Old Feb 18, 2013, 04:55 PM   #40
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Wow, you can see deleted messages with the search function? That is actually quite disturbing to hear. Apple get your act together!

Are these the first signs of the changes in the iOS lead? Apple better do something big for iOS 7, like actually providing some useful new stuff and improvements for future multi-core architectures.

If Apple doesn´t have enough people for QA, they need to hire ASAP.
This sounds almost like the issue some were having where imessages were still showing up on phones after they had been deactivated.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:21 PM   #41
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I'll be sure to stop including the social security numbers, birthdates, and other vital statistics of all my contacts. God forbid someone hack my phone and find my mother's phone number. One call to her would be punishment enough.
Really who puts that much sensitive info in their phones to start with?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 04:19 PM   #42
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Well, it looks like it'll be another future update as 6.1.2 doesn't seem to address it.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 07:59 AM   #43
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Imagine this: Your iphone has no problems. You are happy.....and now tell me to go google for bugs? Why? I am happy......get a life!
Don't post on an article about bugs you dont have on your iPhone or you can't help cope with.
Let people who unfortunately have do the talking.
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