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Old Nov 13, 2013, 09:30 AM   #276
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Does anyone know anything about Metro: Last Light? It just came out on the Mac AppStore for $19.99. Before I bought it, I looked around to see it it had controller support, it does. So I load up the game, go to options, the click controls, and I can not click on controller. I've tried my PS3 and Xbox controller. Anything I find in other forums say "Just download the 360 controllers for Mac", "I just plugged in my Xbox controller and it worked", or my favorite, "Macs aren't for gaming". I can't figure anything out... Anyone else know anything?
Have you installed the free open source 360 drivers? If not install them (check that the pad is working in the System preferences) and then try the game again.

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Old Nov 13, 2013, 09:50 AM   #277
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Have you installed the free open source 360 drivers? If not install them (check that the pad is working in the System preferences) and then try the game again.

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Is that the drivers located here?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 11:12 AM   #278
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 11:29 AM   #279
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Yes. They're the one's. I can't get the 0.12 versions to recognise anything so you may want to try the 0.11 version first.
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Old Nov 25, 2013, 04:16 AM   #280
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Can't get either .11 or .12 to work on 10.9.

Crash report after rebooting.

Code:
Anonymous UUID:       4FC1B647-3EA3-B36F-5D0B-C67ACAC7F58F

Mon Nov 25 04:10:59 2013
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8021cdc19e): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7fa420446d, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000000, CR3: 0x0000000024893000, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
RAX: 0xffffff8035464c00, RBX: 0xffffff8035464c00, RCX: 0x0000000000000007, RDX: 0xffffff8035eb6a00
RSP: 0xffffff8112903b10, RBP: 0xffffff8112903b20, RSI: 0x00000000e0000010, RDI: 0x0000000000000000
R8:  0x0000000000000000, R9:  0x0000000000000000, R10: 0x00000000000008f0, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0xffffff80401615c0, R13: 0x00000000e0000010, R14: 0x0000000000000007, R15: 0xffffff8035eb6a00
RFL: 0x0000000000010246, RIP: 0xffffff7fa420446d, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000000, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x2

Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff81129037a0 : 0xffffff8021c22f69 
0xffffff8112903820 : 0xffffff8021cdc19e 
0xffffff81129039f0 : 0xffffff8021cf3606 
0xffffff8112903a10 : 0xffffff7fa420446d 
0xffffff8112903b20 : 0xffffff802208f48a 
0xffffff8112903b80 : 0xffffff802208f7a3 
0xffffff8112903ba0 : 0xffffff802208a969 
0xffffff8112903be0 : 0xffffff802208f5f2 
0xffffff8112903c10 : 0xffffff802208f769 
0xffffff8112903c50 : 0xffffff80220912c2 
0xffffff8112903ca0 : 0xffffff80220ac9ae 
0xffffff8112903ce0 : 0xffffff80220909bf 
0xffffff8112903d60 : 0xffffff8022090477 
0xffffff8112903da0 : 0xffffff802209020a 
0xffffff8112903e00 : 0xffffff80220917dc 
0xffffff8112903e10 : 0xffffff7fa260c72a 
0xffffff8112903e30 : 0xffffff7fa290db46 
0xffffff8112903e70 : 0xffffff7fa291181f 
0xffffff8112903ea0 : 0xffffff7fa2911cbf 
0xffffff8112903f00 : 0xffffff7fa290cbdf 
0xffffff8112903f20 : 0xffffff8021c4a15a 
0xffffff8112903fb0 : 0xffffff8021cd6aa7 
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(650.4.4)[972D3024-AF9C-3E09-A9EC-D9AB2A559B38]@0xffffff7fa25f8000->0xffffff7fa2656fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.8)[447B4896-16FF-3616-95A2-1C516B2A1498]@0xffffff7fa22ba000
         com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub(650.4.4)[1229941E-4CB9-3F57-B0A6-4A0AD595025D]@0xffffff7fa2901000->0xffffff7fa2917fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(650.4.4)[972D3024-AF9C-3E09-A9EC-D9AB2A559B38]@0xffffff7fa25f8000
         com.mice.driver.Xbox360Controller(1.0d11)[CEFF5AE9-E850-397C-A5D6-0E879F38FA7F]@0xffffff7fa4202000->0xffffff7fa420bfff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(2.0.0)[1185D338-98A5-345E-84F8-E59DF819A61B]@0xffffff7fa2573000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(650.4.4)[972D3024-AF9C-3E09-A9EC-D9AB2A559B38]@0xffffff7fa25f8000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
13A603

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 1D9369E3-D0A5-31B6-8D16-BFFBBB390393
Kernel slide:     0x0000000021a00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8021c00000
System model name: MacBookPro8,3 (Mac-942459F5819B171B)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 96457335288
last loaded kext at 74973040228: com.mice.driver.Xbox360Controller	1.0.0d11 (addr 0xffffff7fa4202000, size 40960)
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Old Nov 25, 2013, 04:20 AM   #281
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Can't get either .11 or .12 to work on 10.9.

Crash report after rebooting.
Sorry, can't help you with that, seems to me to be something with your OS or hardware setup is non standard / damaged given others don't get the same crash.

If you have a spare USB HD you can install an OS on the external drive and do a few tests to see if it is your OS installation.

Another test is to see if the crash only happens when you plug in the USB Devices as the crash might be triggered by a gamepad or another USB device.

Best of luck debugging the problem.

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Old Nov 26, 2013, 01:14 PM   #282
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third party xbox controller copy

Hi all

Sure this has already been answered but I was hoping to get a clear cut yes/no so that I can sleep at night.

Rather than buying an official controller I was duped into buying a copy from ebay. (it looked real...)

When looking up the controller on my system info it returns this:

Product ID: 0x028e
Vendor ID: 0x045e (Microsoft Corporation)
Version: 1.14
Serial Number: 08C7205
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Holtek
Location ID: 0xfa130000 / 6
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): Unknown (Device has not been configured)

I wondered if it would be possible to add support for this version?

I cant test it but I'm sure it would work on xbox 360 or windows just not with the tattiebogle drivers.

I'm on a macbook air with Lion 10.7.5

Any help would be awesome, otherwise I guess I'll just have to give up and buy official!
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 02:16 PM   #283
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Hi all

Sure this has already been answered but I was hoping to get a clear cut yes/no so that I can sleep at night.

Rather than buying an official controller I was duped into buying a copy from ebay. (it looked real...)

When looking up the controller on my system info it returns this:

Product ID: 0x028e
Vendor ID: 0x045e (Microsoft Corporation)
Version: 1.14
Serial Number: 08C7205
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Holtek
Location ID: 0xfa130000 / 6
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): Unknown (Device has not been configured)

I wondered if it would be possible to add support for this version?

I cant test it but I'm sure it would work on xbox 360 or windows just not with the tattiebogle drivers.

I'm on a macbook air with Lion 10.7.5

Any help would be awesome, otherwise I guess I'll just have to give up and buy official!
Hey man, that is really interesting. I am currently having trouble getting my EightArc/QanBa Fusion Arcade Stick to work and my arcade stick's product and vendor ids are exactly the same as yours. Look:

Product ID: 0x028e
Vendor ID: 0x045e (Microsoft Corporation)
Version: 1.14
Serial Number: 00000000
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: HJC
Location ID: 0x04100000 / 3
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 500

It also says the vendor id is from Microsoft Corporation.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 08:34 PM   #284
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so any word on what controllers will work on OS X 10.9?

i tried installing the .12 driver for xbox 360 controller last night. rebooted my macbook, doesn't recognize the device. when i unplugged it, my macbook immediately crashed and gave me a kernel panic error message. i proceeded to uninstall the driver...
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Old Dec 19, 2013, 12:14 AM   #285
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so any word on what controllers will work on OS X 10.9?

i tried installing the .12 driver for xbox 360 controller last night. rebooted my macbook, doesn't recognize the device. when i unplugged it, my macbook immediately crashed and gave me a kernel panic error message. i proceeded to uninstall the driver...
Me too. It crashes the system and forces a restart when trying to plug it in or unplug it with System Preferences open. Randomly does or does not recognize it. I guess I'll have to find another solution than a 360 controller? Wasted $40...
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Old Dec 19, 2013, 09:09 AM   #286
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For those of you experiencing crashes, contact the driver's programmer here.
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Old Dec 31, 2013, 12:04 PM   #287
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Hi Everyone,

I had a similar problem, but found a solution thanks to post #7 on this thread:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1581956

The author of that thread does a really good job of explaining what to do step-by-step so I won't repeat the details here. Basically, you have to install tattieboggle version .08 to get the MAC to recognize the XBOX 360 controller. I tried the .11 version and it wouldn't work for my MAC. Once you install .08, you need to teach the MAC to recognize the XBOX controller by adding the vendor and product id of your controller into the list of controllers that the MAC already recognizes.

Hope that helps!
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Old Dec 31, 2013, 01:07 PM   #288
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If an older version of the plug-in works while the newer one doesn't, I believe that's called a "regression." Contact the main developer to see if he knows about the issue and if he has a fix planned.

On second thought, does he watch this thread?
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 03:17 AM   #289
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Hey so I have used this before with problems but got it working eventually one time. I have erased my macs memory and tried getting it again this time its not working point blank. I'm using a regular wireless xbox controller, Wireless adapter, and the newest version of software. If anyone can help it's greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 08:01 AM   #290
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Solution for those using Rock Band Guitars/Drums

I was having a problem getting the rock band usb devices to work. Version 0.07 worked on my mac mini but it wouldn't run on mavericks.

So if you are on 32-bit architecture just install version 0.07 of the driver (you may need to set owner of the driver manually).

to fix ownership run this on every directory in 360Controller.kext (just add another /* to the end):
Code:
sudo chown root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/360Controller.kext/*
If you are on 64-bit system copy my fixed version overtop of it and it works (fixed kernel dependencies).

360Controller.kext.zip

Not sure if this fixes all controllers. But it fixes Rock Band controllers. Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 22, 2014, 08:06 AM   #291
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There is a fork of the tattiebogle driver which I have just tried and works flawlessly.

https://github.com/d235j/360Controller/releases
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Old Feb 1, 2014, 02:23 AM   #292
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Hello guys,

This solution is for those of you who have the force-reboot problem when plugging/unplugging the wired controllers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pekapa View Post
That post is about 0.11 (and OS X 10.8.2 probably)
Anyone got the 0.12 (or any version actually) working with the OS X 10.8.3? For me it can only work when I boot my mac with the controller and whenever I unplug the controller it force-reboot my mac... =/

I have a 15'' MBP Retina (mid-2012)

Thanks! xD
As any forced reboot it's caused by a kernel panic, which in this case is itself caused by some interference between the 360 driver and the Android File Transfer agent/daemon. So the first thing to do is to check if it's running in your Activity Monitor.
(Source: https://github.com/OpenEmu/OpenEmu/issues/376)

Configuration:
- MacBook Pro early 2011 (Japanese)
- Mac OSX Lion 10.7.5
- 2 wired official Microsoft Xbox 360 controllers
- TattieBogle 0.11 clean install (check other posts if you need reinstalling)

Symptoms:
- 360 controller is recognized and works if plugged from startup or plugged once (sometimes)
- Any unplug or re-plug causes kernel panic and force-reboot

Solution :
- Quit Android File Transfer agent
- [Recommended] Remove it from startup items (see below)

From https://productforums.google.com/for...le/3hPIZjP0rDo:
Quote:
And here's the solution to disable the Agent app:
- Go to where you installed "Android File Transfer.app" (I have it under /Applications)
- Ctrl+click --> "Show package contents"
- Go to Contents/Resources
- Rename "Android File Transfer Agent" to e.g. "Android File Transfer Agent_DISABLED"
It also took me a while to basically get the controllers to work but a 0.11 clean install seems to do the trick. I can now play Lego Star Wars with my girlfriend and plug/unplug the controllers without any issues.

Thanks for all the tips shared here!
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 09:32 AM   #293
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I bought a wired xbox controller and I downloaded the same driver that you have but the problem is when I plug my controller in, the green light will light up for a second and then turns off again! I got tired of this bc I spent the whole past weekend trying to make it work but nothing happen.

Any thoughts of getting this controller working would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 10:21 AM   #294
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I bought a wired xbox controller and I downloaded the same driver that you have but the problem is when I plug my controller in, the green light will light up for a second and then turns off again! I got tired of this bc I spent the whole past weekend trying to make it work but nothing happen.

Any thoughts of getting this controller working would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is this a real Microsoft 360 pad or a third party one?
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 01:11 PM   #295
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Is this a real Microsoft 360 pad or a third party one?
A real Microsoft 360 pad
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 08:20 PM   #296
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So my control is listed as added on but I can't get the software to recognize it at all....
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Old Apr 5, 2014, 11:26 AM   #297
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I bought a wired xbox controller and I downloaded the same driver that you have but the problem is when I plug my controller in, the green light will light up for a second and then turns off again! I got tired of this bc I spent the whole past weekend trying to make it work but nothing happen.

Any thoughts of getting this controller working would be much appreciated. Thanks.
+1 and forget the whole past weekend, i have been trying this on/off for 4 years!
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