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Old Oct 8, 2013, 04:38 AM   #26
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The answer is obvious. You'll see such posts all the time because people never suspect just how asinine an Apple product can be until it's too late. It's a scandal that all the info is still perfectly intact on all those phones and it's only Apple's ruthlessness that prevents a solid app from retrieving them.
How do you know that the info is still perfectly intact? As far as I'm aware, the iOS file system is encrypted. If access to the key is lost on purpose or by accident, the data is inaccessible. This is how the Erase all content and settings and the remote wipe via Find My iPhone works - it just erases the key meaning the data is encrypted and cannot be recovered.

If this is the reason for the phone going into recovery mode - you've got no chance of recovering the data even if you could access the file system - the data is encrypted.

Regardless of the above - this is not Apple's problem. There may be a hardware issue with the flash memory on the phone, it might be a software issue. At the end of the day, Apple is not responsible for the end user backing up their data.

If your data is important to you, back it up. There are no excuses and the blame lies nowhere else but with the person who lost the data. That's the end of it.
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Old Oct 9, 2013, 05:10 AM   #27
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How do you know that the info is still perfectly intact? As far as I'm aware, the iOS file system is encrypted. If access to the key is lost on purpose or by accident, the data is inaccessible. This is how the Erase all content and settings and the remote wipe via Find My iPhone works - it just erases the key meaning the data is encrypted and cannot be recovered.

If this is the reason for the phone going into recovery mode - you've got no chance of recovering the data even if you could access the file system - the data is encrypted.

Regardless of the above - this is not Apple's problem. There may be a hardware issue with the flash memory on the phone, it might be a software issue. At the end of the day, Apple is not responsible for the end user backing up their data.

If your data is important to you, back it up. There are no excuses and the blame lies nowhere else but with the person who lost the data. That's the end of it.
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How do you know that the info is still perfectly intact? As far as I'm aware, the iOS file system is encrypted. If access to the key is lost on purpose or by accident, the data is inaccessible. This is how the Erase all content and settings and the remote wipe via Find My iPhone works - it just erases the key meaning the data is encrypted and cannot be recovered.

If this is the reason for the phone going into recovery mode - you've got no chance of recovering the data even if you could access the file system - the data is encrypted.

Regardless of the above - this is not Apple's problem. There may be a hardware issue with the flash memory on the phone, it might be a software issue. At the end of the day, Apple is not responsible for the end user backing up their data.

If your data is important to you, back it up. There are no excuses and the blame lies nowhere else but with the person who lost the data. That's the end of it.
Actually, it's not remotely the end of it. If you want to have a discussion that's one thing, if you want the last word, case closed I'm afraid I'll have to be the one to provide it for your as your comment was inadequate and as usual borderline rude.

You logged onto a post labeled "Help Needed" with intent to badger the poor guy and nothing else--and drone on and on and on with a pious lecture about something he's already learned the hard way? Way to work the problem.

If it's encrypted, it's there. That's what encryption is--it's only the matter of being competent enough to set a decent path for retrieval. Why Apple and others make this impossible and why 3rd party providers must try to find ways to help others out of tough spot when Apple should be doing it is Apple's fault.

As for always spanking the poor blokes who lose their info, yes, they hold responsibility too but in insurance terms there can always be more than one party at fault. Anyway, when a hack/troll complains about civilians making a deadly mistake with their hard-bought equipment it's like the old record store days when the loser clerk snaps at the customers for looking in the wrong area for their favorite band--in both cases the troll or the clerk are furious that a non-expert doesn't know as much as they do. Backing up iphoto and itunes files can be confusing for people who don't do this for a living or for an extended hobby.

Final word, it shouldn't be that easy for Apple to destroy/encrypt forever all your info and Apple should be much better at protecting civilians from themselves. Why don't the whiners do everyone a favor and just stop reading posts asking for help? You'll save yourselves aggravation and save the rest of us from your company. I hear there a several porn sites on the internet now; maybe try visiting them instead.

Now, that's the end of it.
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 03:32 PM   #28
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Actually, it's not remotely the end of it. If you want to have a discussion that's one thing, if you want the last word, case closed I'm afraid I'll have to be the one to provide it for your as your comment was inadequate and as usual borderline rude.
As usual? Really? And I'd hardly call it inadequate. True - the guy wants his data back. Thats as good as maybe. The fact is, it is not down to Apple to make your data accessible. What is the point of an encrypted file system if someone can steal your phone, you remotely disable it, and they can still access your data?

What would you rather? You keep a copy of your data separate from the phone (standard practise), or keep your data on the phone on the proviso that anyone can grab the data off of a lost/stolen phone?

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You logged onto a post labeled "Help Needed" with intent to badger the poor guy and nothing else--and drone on and on and on with a pious lecture about something he's already learned the hard way? Way to work the problem.
Pious lecture? I apologised at the time to the guy - my deleted post, yes, was a bit harsh, but what use is a nicey nicey 'oh what a shame' post when people will just keep on being totally insecure about their data?

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If it's encrypted, it's there. That's what encryption is--it's only the matter of being competent enough to set a decent path for retrieval. Why Apple and others make this impossible and why 3rd party providers must try to find ways to help others out of tough spot when Apple should be doing it is Apple's fault.
Again - see my above explanation. I'd rather encrypted data stayed encrypted so that only I can access it. I don't want random people extracting my data from my phone without my permission. Perhaps making the encryption key available to the user would be an acceptable solution, but that still requires you to back up your encryption key - why not just back up the data instead?

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As for always spanking the poor blokes who lose their info, yes, they hold responsibility too but in insurance terms there can always be more than one party at fault.
No. Just no. In the eyes of the insurance companies - the fault always lies with one party.

If you created it, you are responsible for it. You can't expect Apple to be responsible for data that you create. It's not like its even difficult to back up.

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Backing up iphoto and itunes files can be confusing for people who don't do this for a living or for an extended hobby.
Why? Time Machine is bundled with every copy of Mac, and prompts every time you plug in a USB hard disk to set up backups.

Windows Backup is bundled with every copy of Windows 7+ and prompts for setup in the autoplay menu. Not confusing at all.

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Final word, it shouldn't be that easy for Apple to destroy/encrypt forever all your info and Apple should be much better at protecting civilians from themselves. Why don't the whiners do everyone a favor and just stop reading posts asking for help? You'll save yourselves aggravation and save the rest of us from your company. I hear there a several porn sites on the internet now; maybe try visiting them instead.
On the contrary. I think it's you that is getting aggravated. My comments in this thread are not terrible enough to warrant the response you gave.

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Now, that's the end of it.
No, the end of it is that the OP should have backed up his data. Leaving 15Gb of extremely important unlosable data on a mobile device is extremely silly, regardless of whether the phone crashes or not, the device can be damaged, lost, stolen. Would those cases be Apple's fault too? I mean the guy lost his data because he left his phone on a bus with all his data on it. Is that Apple's fault for not protecting his data enough?
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 10:30 PM   #29
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This thread is a perfect example of why you should back up your iPhone or iPad or iPod or Mac before updating. Actually, back it up regularly to avoid headaches like this.


I've learned the hard way ONCE due to not backing up files on my MacBook.

Never again.

I hope everyone who lost their data from their iDevices gets it all figured out.
Actually the OP has a habit of backing up his device... just not his precious photos.... what's the point if you backup everything but not the most valuable and irreplaceable data? So there are two choices: purchase extra storage and backup the photos to iCloud or just sync and back up to iTunes.

For the OP's problem, I can't think of any solution since he already tried TinyUmbrella's kicking out of recovery mode. If this doesn't work it means that his iPhone's system has really been damaged (due to an error during the stage of overwriting the old OS - which may be caused by a corrupted GM file downloaded from unreliable sources). Kicking out of recovery mode by software only works on devices that has entered recovery mode by deliberate user action.

I definitely feel the pain of the OP and feel very sorry for what happened to his phone. It is a strong reminder to us that doing anything other than by orthodox methods (i.e. OTA update from the device after general release) involves significant risk.

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When you made the backup, you may have told it to encrypt the backup.

Therefore I used the normal iTunes backup and restore found under the Summary tab in iTunes. If your data is still on the other phone, back it up again with iTunes. To use iTunes you have to start it, connect your phone to the computer with a cable, then select the iPhone button near the top right corner of the screen. Be sure not to check the encrypt button. You can recover iPhone data to factory settings successfully.
The OP backed up to iCloud and chose not to backup his photos. He was not using iTunes.
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 10:35 PM   #30
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what's the point if you backup everything but not the most valuable and irreplaceable data?
There is no point
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Old Oct 20, 2013, 05:38 PM   #31
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Replace the Battery

I was able to recover my 4s by replacing the battery with a fully charged new one. Make sure it's charged before attempting a restore...etc.
Hope that helps - D3ee
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Old Oct 28, 2013, 06:50 AM   #32
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Smile Solved the problem with restore mod iOS7

Dear All,

I had the same problem, with over 500 pics in my phone 4s iOS7, but finally dig out the solution.

The only thing you need is to download Redsn0w 0.9.15b3

and follow the simple steps.

I got my phone to the previous state with all my data. good luck with your.

any question please ask.
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Old Nov 22, 2013, 11:57 PM   #33
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I'm very sorry to inform you that, as of now, there's no way around this. My brother is a computer scientist, so he fooled around with my iPhone 4S for a few days, trying to access the phone's memory while in restore mode or in DFU mode. He tried everything, even trying to access the memory in LibUSB on Lunix, since iOS is UNIX based underneath and has the same libraries. The phone would just refuse to let anyone access the memory, and acts like a corrupted drive.

The reason to this happening is that all A5+ devices have a locked bootloader, and no one has yet figured out how to unlock it yet. If my iPhone was a 3GS or a 4, then I would have been able to retrieve my photos, because the jailbreak community has been able to unlock the bootloader on those devices, thus being able to create a SHSH connection and then accessing the memory.

There has been talks in the jailbreak community to unlock the bootloader on A5 and A6 devices, but that hasn't happened yet. If you're very patient, and you want your photos so badly, you can leave your phone in restore mode until they figure out how to unlock the bootloader on the newer iPhones, then you'll be able to retrieve your photos back.

Programs like Wondershare Dr.Fone and Tenorshare only work if the phone is working. I tried to fool around with them, and they don't work unless your phone is fully functioning.

I thought about doing a full restore of the phone, and then using photo-restoring programs that will let you restore photos after being deleted, but my brother discovered that wouldn't work, because A5+ devices have encrypted memory, so once the memory is wiped, it's impossible to retrieve anything back.

After all this, I just decided to restore my phone (I had over 5000+ photos all gone), because I need my iPhone for work. I restored some of my photos from my Facebook and Instagram profiles, and just decided it's time to take some new photos and new memories.
I am in the same situation. I tried to upgrade to IOS7 to use Siri in Italia and got my iPhone 4S in recovery mode. I have a lot of pics I took in Rome with my girlfriend
So i decided to leave my iPhone 4S in recovery mode and hope to get the pics back.
I tried the Redsn0w 0.9.15b3 as Bali001 said, but its worthless. When you do the Recovery Fix it gives you this message: "A simple version of Recovery fix has beenapplied to your iPhone 4S. The more comprehensive version is not curretly avaiable for A5 or later devices." The iphone resets and get back to the plug to iTunes screen.
Does anyone know if there is any news in the Jailbreak community about the bootrom explore of the A5??

Thanks
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Old Nov 26, 2013, 09:53 PM   #34
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I have the exact same problem, I was updating to IOS 7.3 (the second IOS 7 update) and I got a call mid way through the update and now I am stuck with the error - "iTunes has detected an iPhone in recovery mode. You must restore this iPhone before it can be used with iTunes". Its months since I backed up my iphone and I have pictures of the birth of my child on the phone that I donít want to lose. So any help or advice on how to get them back would be appreciated. I have tried tinyumbrella-7.02.01a, drfone-for-ios_full1283, iphone_5_data_recovery, recboot and redsn0w_win_0.9.15b3 but noting works
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Old Nov 26, 2013, 10:40 PM   #35
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I have the exact same problem, I was updating to IOS 7.3 (the second IOS 7 update) and I got a call mid way through the update and now I am stuck with the error - "iTunes has detected an iPhone in recovery mode. You must restore this iPhone before it can be used with iTunes". Its months since I backed up my iphone and I have pictures of the birth of my child on the phone that I donít want to lose. So any help or advice on how to get them back would be appreciated. I have tried tinyumbrella-7.02.01a, drfone-for-ios_full1283, iphone_5_data_recovery, recboot and redsn0w_win_0.9.15b3 but noting works
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, beyond those, there really isn't much that you can do. It really sucks, I definitely understand, but, next time, if something is that important to you, back it up. It is not difficult to do (not berating you).
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 05:47 AM   #36
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Is there likely to be a hack for the a5 chip in time that will allow the data to be recovered off the phone, as I am thinking of leaving the phone sit until a recovery is figured out
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 11:39 AM   #37
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same boat :(

I'm in the same boat. I've backed up everything except my photos and videos and my phone is now stuck in recovery mode following an attempt to update to os7. I've spent my Christmas researching this and as far as I can gather, I have the choice of restoring my phone and loosing my data, or buying a new phone and waiting for the data recovery experts to figure out how to recover data from a 4s in recovery mode (in the same way as they have already for the 3 and 4g).

As some people seem outraged that anyone could be careless enough to land in this situation, I don't mind explaining how I got here. My laptop crashed in the summer and I've not been able to afford to replace it or subscribe to a decent chunk of storage in icloud. Like others, I have photos and video on the phone that I don't want to loose. I know they still exist on the device and I'm prepared to wait some time for the 4s encryption issue to be resolved.

I'd welcome any notification of progress here. Thanks.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 01:23 PM   #38
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Not sure if it was mentioned, but download ifunbox.
You can retrieve your photos, videos, everything.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 01:39 PM   #39
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^ not convinced that's going help us. Unless ifunbox works with phones that are in recovery mode then its no different to all the existing data recovery software out there.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 01:50 PM   #40
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Having tested ifunbox I can confirm it appears useless for this task. Don't waste your time.
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 11:05 AM   #41
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From the above analysis, most users are interested in iOS 7 or jailbreak iOS 7, and have ever stuck in recovery mode or Apple logo screen during the using of iPhone, iPad or iPod. So, we will going to show you how to one click exit recovery mode or Apple white logo screen with iPhone Data Recovery. We take iPhone as an example in this tutorial about How to Exit iPhone Recovery Mode after Jailbreak iOS 7.
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Old Apr 8, 2014, 09:34 AM   #42
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Hello,

I am in the same boat of those who can only regret to have not properly backed up their iphone (beside telling (and setting up) every one around them to do so)... The worst part is that I can see all my pictures with Image capture but I cannot download any before the loop strikes back. Very frustrating.

So I now have a great iPhone 5 brick stuck in boot loop. Tried everything I could find but of course nothing is available yet as the A5 chip is not accessible as far as I can understand.

I will sit on my iBrick as long as it takes as I have so many pics and vids that I don't want to loose. I will just wait as long as it takes... I am just waiting for some good news but I am not really sure where to look for it.

I have seen that http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/02/n...able-life.html but it seems to be only for 4S (possibly good for wpimlico ?) but it looks like I'm still on the same boat as MICHAELMCCARTH...

If anyone has a good input or a direction to look, it would be most welcomed.
I promess next time I'll back up properly and leave that thread alone...
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Old May 27, 2014, 09:50 AM   #43
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Just now I got error while updating my iPhone 4 to iOS 7, and it stucks in the DFU mode. But I found the solution after I installed TinyUmbrella.

1. Disconnect your phone from iTunes
2. Turn Off your phone
3. Install TinyUmbrella (http://thefirmwareumbrella.blogspot.com/)
4. Connect your phone again
5. Click "Exit Recovery" at the top right of TinyUmbrella apps.
6. Done.

Your phone will restart then it returns to normal mode again. Hope it helps!
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 12:04 AM   #44
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What can I do? What can I do? What can I do?
My iPhone is almost dead! I cannot figure it out to find a way to get it out of recovery mode!
Who can help me?
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 11:44 PM   #45
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What can I do? What can I do? What can I do?

My iPhone is almost dead! I cannot figure it out to find a way to get it out of recovery mode!

Who can help me?

Put it in dfu mode and then restore. Then, restore from a backup.
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 06:11 AM   #46
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There are lots of people asking for help to recover deleted photos from iphone. In fact, there's a way to recover deleted photos directly from iPhone 5/4S/4/3GS. Also, if you've ever synced your iPhone with iTunes before, there is also another way: to recover from iTunes backup for all iPhones including iPhone 5/4S. You just need the help from Coolmuster iOS Data Recovery tool.
Easy way to retrieve deleted photos from iphone6/6 plus/5/5s/4/4s/3GS

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Old Dec 16, 2014, 03:01 AM   #47
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Every time you sync iDevice with iTunes, it will automatically make a backup of your iPhone contents including photos and videos. Therefore, as long as you have ever synced your iPhone with iTunes, you can recover deleted photos from backup files.
http://www.fonepaw.com/tutorials/iph...very-mode.html

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