Why is 13" RMBP Thicker than the 15" RMBP ???

intz2nu · Nov 6, 2012, 05:06 AM

Just curious if anyone here knows why Apple didn't make the 13" RMBP as thin as the 15" RMBP. Does anyone know if there is something within the 13" model that Apple had no choice to make it thicker than the 15" model?

Puevlo · Nov 6, 2012, 05:08 AM

Less room to fit stuff in. Has the same components but not as wide.

Barna Biro · Nov 6, 2012, 05:10 AM

0.04" = ~1mm thicker... you have some serious First Wold problems there.

aziatiklover · Nov 6, 2012, 05:12 AM

I havent noticed that, but how thick is it compare to the 15"?

Ccrew · Nov 6, 2012, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Puevlo

Less room to fit stuff in. Has the same components but not as wide.

Actually if you look at the iFixit teardown they say there's empty space inside the 13" which is very un-Apple. And given the fact there's no secondary GPU as in the 15" there's less space needed on the logic board which means smaller also.

IGregory · Nov 6, 2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aziatiklover

I havent noticed that, but how thick is it compare to the 15"?

Here

dusk007 · Nov 6, 2012, 06:51 AM

The whole assembly is still quite big with those two fans while all other 13" Apple Notebooks have only one. Next they had to fit some big battery to handle the higher power consumption of the new Display.
The missing GPU doesn't save all that much space there is still loads of stuff that needs to fit on the logic board. So all in all it just worked out to be less space.
Stuff like the Keyboard, Touchpad, even speakers take relatively more space in the small notebook. The cooling system doesn't look like it shrank enough compared to its 15" counterpart. The have to design all as small as possible and than fill the rest with battery. If that battery is to weak all they can do is make the battery thicker.
I guess they designed for the same thickness as the 15" but ended up with too weak a battery so they had to add thickness to but in a fat battery. 1mm makes a lot of difference for the battery.

vpro · Nov 6, 2012, 11:35 AM

that is why a 17" MBP would be the perfect size to fit all that powerful stuff inside of and still be so portable for a MBP.

SchuettS · Nov 6, 2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barna Biro

0.04" = ~1mm thicker... you have some serious First Wold problems there.

What's first world problems have to do with a Mac and why do people say this in every thread?

Krazy Bill · Nov 6, 2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SchuettS

What's first world problems have to do with a Mac and why do people say this in every thread?

Because there are more important things in life than a device that's .04" thicker than another?

SchuettS · Nov 6, 2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Krazy Bill

Because there are more important things in life than a device that's .04" thicker than another?

There are more important things in life then 99.9% of what's discussed or displayed on the Internet. This is a Mac forum, people should be able to ask a question about a mac without someone bringing up "third world problems".

bill-p · Nov 6, 2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by intz2nu

Just curious if anyone here knows why Apple didn't make the 13" RMBP as thin as the 15" RMBP. Does anyone know if there is something within the 13" model that Apple had no choice to make it thicker than the 15" model?

My guess is that it's air flow.

The 15" rMBP can use the speaker grilles as well as the additional length (longer vent at the hinge area) for more air flow.

In contrast, the 13" rMBP has smaller fans, no speaker grilles, and more tightly packed components, so they might have elected to make it 1mm thicker to offset some space and allow air to flow more freely.

intz2nu · Nov 6, 2012, 01:28 PM

Ah I see, this makes sense. I completely overlooked and forgot about the 15" and it's speakers.

0x000000 · Nov 6, 2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vpro

that is why a 17" MBP would be the perfect size to fit all that powerful stuff inside of and still be so portable for a MBP.

I love how there's always someone who, no matter what topic and without any apparent reason, comes around saying how the discontinued 17" cMBP is the best notebook ever

Orlandoech · Nov 6, 2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barna Biro

0.04" = ~1mm thicker... you have some serious First Wold problems there.

This made me lol

Mrbobb · Nov 6, 2012, 03:03 PM

Everybody think there is always some metaphysical reason why something happens. It makes for conversations I guess.

U ask a singer, why do you used that name? is he an old flame? a special person in your life who inspired you to write this song? and She may honestly tell you, NO IT JUST RHYMED!

The box maybe thicker just because the stamp machine had that die on hand and why fuss for another 1mm?

Barna Biro · Nov 6, 2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrbobb

why fuss for another 1mm?

Seriously now, + or - 1mm is A LOT !!! Just think about it... currently, it might be thick enough to rip the finest of envelops that one carries it around in... What was Apple thinking?!

Now I have to keep on sending it back until I get a 13" rMBP that is 1mm thinner than the one I have... I also hope I get a Blingsung displays next time because I heard they are 1mm thinner than the Lucky-Goldfish displays and don't come with the bonus "phantom feature" ( yeah, it's an overrated bonus feature )!

* fingers crossed *

PS: Any "decently heavy" guys around here? In case the above fails, maybe someone can sit on it for a couple of hours an flatten it by 1mm... Will pay in hamburgers and beer for the help!

leman · Nov 6, 2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vpro

that is why a 17" MBP would be the perfect size to fit all that powerful stuff inside of and still be so portable for a MBP.

Oh stop already with that 17" preaching, practically nobody was buying the damn thing.

OT: Apple changed the design a bit, moving the SSD and battery, maybe that's a factor? They definitely had some problems with designing the thing, there is some reason why it took so long...

terraphantm · Nov 6, 2012, 04:20 PM

I think it's the placement of the batteries. Two of them aren't glued on, but instead held to a metal frame - that probably added some thickness.

vpro · Nov 6, 2012, 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=leman;16243544]Oh stop already with that 17" preaching, practically nobody was buying the damn thing.

Oh stop it already yourself....

leman · Nov 6, 2012, 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=vpro;16244117]

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Originally Posted by leman

Oh stop already with that 17" preaching, practically nobody was buying the damn thing.

Oh stop it already yourself....

Stop what? You are the one highjacking every thread with your irrelevant statements. Or are you a parrot?

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intz2nu macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2012	Why is 13" RMBP Thicker than the 15" RMBP ??? Just curious if anyone here knows why Apple didn't make the 13" RMBP as thin as the 15" RMBP. Does anyone know if there is something within the 13" model that Apple had no choice to make it thicker than the 15" model?
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vpro macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2012	Oh stop it.. [QUOTE=leman;16243544]Oh stop already with that 17" preaching, practically nobody was buying the damn thing. Oh stop it already yourself.... __________________ 17"MBP\|2.5Ghz i7\|16GB\|512GB+960GB RAID\|3 TB Displays\|15"r 2.8Ghz\|16GB,768GB\|Apogee Quartet\| 27"iMac\|3.4Ghz i7\|32GB\|768GB\| I detest the mob mentality I need to step up and stand out from the crowd.
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Nov 6, 2012, 05:08 AM	#2
Puevlo macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2011	Less room to fit stuff in. Has the same components but not as wide.
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Nov 6, 2012, 06:51 AM	#7
dusk007 macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2009	The whole assembly is still quite big with those two fans while all other 13" Apple Notebooks have only one. Next they had to fit some big battery to handle the higher power consumption of the new Display. The missing GPU doesn't save all that much space there is still loads of stuff that needs to fit on the logic board. So all in all it just worked out to be less space. Stuff like the Keyboard, Touchpad, even speakers take relatively more space in the small notebook. The cooling system doesn't look like it shrank enough compared to its 15" counterpart. The have to design all as small as possible and than fill the rest with battery. If that battery is to weak all they can do is make the battery thicker. I guess they designed for the same thickness as the 15" but ended up with too weak a battery so they had to add thickness to but in a fat battery. 1mm makes a lot of difference for the battery.
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Nov 6, 2012, 01:28 PM	#13
intz2nu Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2012	Ah I see, this makes sense. I completely overlooked and forgot about the 15" and it's speakers.
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Nov 6, 2012, 03:03 PM	#16
Mrbobb macrumors 68030 Join Date: Aug 2012	Everybody think there is always some metaphysical reason why something happens. It makes for conversations I guess. U ask a singer, why do you used that name? is he an old flame? a special person in your life who inspired you to write this song? and She may honestly tell you, NO IT JUST RHYMED! The box maybe thicker just because the stamp machine had that die on hand and why fuss for another 1mm?
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Nov 6, 2012, 04:20 PM	#19
terraphantm macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pennsylvania	I think it's the placement of the batteries. Two of them aren't glued on, but instead held to a metal frame - that probably added some thickness.
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