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Apple Overtakes Samsung to Become Largest Mobile Phone Vendor in U.S.

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apple-win

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1Alec1 said:
Is it not like this for other smartphones? :confused: You're still paying the high price to Apple.

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If phone companies stop subsidizing smartphones, Apple stock price will drop like a rock. However Samsung will be doing fine, it can still sell white appliances, TVs, and others. Samsung is a conglomerate, not Apple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung

Subsidized smartphone should be stopped, because it puts consumers to a perpetual phone update cycle, generates more e-junks to landfill. Right now consumers have no choice, they either take an overpaid cell phone plan or pay perpetual downpayment for phone upgrade cycle.
 
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1Alec1

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The Democratic Republic of Congo, you racist!
apple-win said:
If phone companies stop subsidizing smartphones, Apple stock price will drop like a rock. However Samsung will be doing fine, it can still sell white appliances, TVs, and others. Samsung is a conglomerate, not Apple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung

Subsidized smartphone should be stopped, because it puts consumers to a perpetual phone update cycle, generates more e-junks to landfill. Right now consumers have no choice, they either take an overpaid cell phone plan or pay perpetual downpayment for phone upgrade cycle.
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What does this have to do with anything? All I said was that Apple is selling an impressive number of iPhones because they're expensive no matter how the consumer is paying for them. Selling them partially through a contract isn't "phony" sales.

You say it's better to give the consumer no choice, just a $700 iPhone? You get a better deal when you buy an iPhone with a plan because the carrier rightfully rewards you for predictability. Consumers right now have the choice of buying the iPhone with no plan for $700 or getting it with a plan. I'd rather have a choice than no choice, thanks.
 
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apple-win

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1Alec1 said:
What does this have to do with anything? All I said was that Apple is selling an impressive number of iPhones because they're expensive no matter how the consumer is paying for them. Selling them partially through a contract isn't "phony" sales.

You say it's better to give the consumer no choice, just a $700 iPhone? You get a better deal when you buy an iPhone with a plan because the carrier rightfully rewards you for predictability. Consumers right now have the choice of buying the iPhone with no plan for $700 or getting it with a plan. I'd rather have a choice than no choice, thanks.
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After 2-year phone contract is done, if you choose to no upgrade another smartphone, will your phone company give you a lower price cell phone plan?

It would be nice and fair if consumers have this choice -- phone company offers cheaper phone plan if consumers do not want to buy a subsidized smartphone.
 
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1Alec1

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The Democratic Republic of Congo, you racist!
apple-win said:
After 2-year phone contract is done, if you choose to no upgrade another smartphone, will your phone company give you a lower price cell phone plan?

It would be nice and fair if consumers have this choice -- phone company offers cheaper phone plan if consumers do not want to buy a subsidized smartphone.
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It's fair already if everyone buys from the same carriers, and nobody is forced to buy an iPhone.
 
CodeJingle

CodeJingle

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I think everyone is missing the point here. Apple has NEVER had a quarter in the US where it was the number one mobile phone vendor. Not ever. Until now. So it doesn't matter what quarter this news was associated with. It is not phony news just because it was the launch quarter for iPhone 5. The launch quarter for all of their other phones was less popular as a percentage. So Apple market share for mobile was higher for that quarter than it had ever been before.
 
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CodeJingle

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maxosx said:
Apple has become a giant, conservative, mass market retailer. Focused on selling content consumption iOS devices, the days of focusing on creating world class leading edge computers for content creation & innovative products are over.
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Apple still makes great computers. They are also coming out with revamped Mac Pro next quarter. It isn't their fault their phone and tablet sells so much more than their laptop and desktop computers. There isn't anything they can do about it. If you think this fact is a problem then how do you propose it be fixed?

Also I've heard that argument alot, about content creation, and it is just unfounded. You can make great stuff on an iPad. Maybe not on an iPhone, but certainly the iPad is no stranger to 'content creation and innovative products'.
 
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maxosx

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CodeJingle said:
Apple still makes great computers. They are also coming out with revamped Mac Pro next quarter. It isn't their fault their phone and tablet sells so much more than their laptop and desktop computers.

1) There isn't anything they can do about it. If you think this fact is a problem then how do you propose it be fixed?

2) Also I've heard that argument alot, about content creation, and it is just unfounded. You can make great stuff on an iPad. Maybe not on an iPhone, but certainly the iPad is no stranger to 'content creation and innovative products'.
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1a) What?
"There isn't anything they can do about it" you've got to be kidding.
Apple is helpless? Not hardly!

I'll tell you what Apple can do. They can take a portion of their billions in reserve cash & expand like any other company would do. Grow Apple bigger, continue to focus on computers as well as iDevices and further expand their size & presence as a world class tech company.

2) Respectfully, you have no idea what large scale computing is responsible for in today's engineering environment. From fluid dynamics, genome projects, aerospace & thousands of high level computational scientifically complex projects. You won't see a consumer device in any of those labs.
 
CodeJingle

CodeJingle

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maxosx said:
1a) What?
"There isn't anything they can do about it" you've got to be kidding.
Apple is helpless? Not hardly!

I'll tell you what Apple can do. They can take a portion of their billions in reserve cash & expand like any other company would do. Grow Apple bigger, continue to focus on computers as well as iDevices and further expand their size & presence as a world class tech company.
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Your original comment was "More than 50% of Apples revenue, and survival... rely on a single product, the iPhone". Your response to how they could fix that is for Apple to "expand" and "grow Apple bigger"? Really? Apple is currently growing. At breakneck speed. They can't grow any faster then they are currently growing. You are asking Apple to do what they are already doing. And the faster they grow and expand, the more people buy their iOS devices, so their percentage of revenue coming from iOS products remains unchanged. So now we've come full circle. There isn't anything Apple can do about it, not anymore than they are currently doing. Not for the problems you claim Apple has.

And I am a software engineer, and routinely do development work on large projects. So from experience I can tell you the iPad is a fine device for content creation and is not just a consumer device. I write code and develop applications on my iPad.

Besides Apple makes awesome laptop and desktop computers, and just last year produced 2 retina display Macbook Pros with the high-speed Thunderbolt Port architecture, so even if I agreed with you that the iPad is a device only for consumption I still do not agree that Apple has stopped "creating world class leading edge computers". Quite the opposite.
 
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