New Samsung ad trashes the BlackBerry... - Page 3

daveathall · Jan 23, 2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by opinioncircle

Disagreed. Bashing a company shouldn't get you higher dividends. You can pretty much claim anything with the right wording. Good business is having good competitive edge, ad bashing ain't one of them. Nor is getting bigger dividends for shareholders either...

Fair enough, you may be right. I have never in my life worked for a company that has to make a profit so could be naive. From the outside though, it certainly seems the way I portrayed in my first post.

G51989 · Jan 24, 2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mattopotamus

could not agree more. It is less a shot a blackberry and more a shot at people still doing things the archaic way if that makes sense. The lady with a business phone and personal phone....why not just have 1. Their commercials really are solid, and one of the only commercials I actually watch when it comes on tv.

I keep two phones, because our company doesn't let you do BYOG, and even if they did, and lots of companies do this, if you bring your own phone, they have remote access to it, and all the data on it, and may remotely wipe it at will, if the data is at all important.

chewietobbacca · Jan 24, 2013, 02:26 AM

The situation isn't that far fetched... my own company allowed people to choose between the S3 and IP5 or a BB for work. Many consolidated their previous set up of personal phone + BB into one phone.

cynics · 08:18 AM

I use a work phone exclusively, work and personal phone (iPhone). I work for a small company and my bosses don't abuse it calling me day and night. But I can most certainly see why someone would choose to carry two phones.

mattopotamus · Jan 24, 2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by G51989

I keep two phones, because our company doesn't let you do BYOG, and even if they did, and lots of companies do this, if you bring your own phone, they have remote access to it, and all the data on it, and may remotely wipe it at will, if the data is at all important.

I'm was mostly saying the way the commercial made it look. I know why people in real life have two phones, but the commercial does a great job as depicting it as an outed thing that people are doing b.c they are not comfortable changing.

rmhop81 · Jan 24, 2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mattopotamus

I'm was mostly saying the way the commercial made it look. I know why people in real life have two phones, but the commercial does a great job as depicting it as an outed thing that people are doing b.c they are not comfortable changing.

there are policies in place that prevent people from changing. the commercial is not accurate. Sure a relaxed place of business where peeps wear jeans all day will let you mix your personal and work on the same device. But a big corporation with policies in place about it...will not.

my wifes work is actually a small non-profit and she will get in trouble if she has any personal info on her work iPhone. Thus the need for 2 iPhones. She's not outdated with her devices...she has 2 iPhone 5's!

Also, what a lot of people don't know. If you work at a place that is BYOD....and some type of lawsuit happens or a public records request is started...your phone can be subject to that. So now your personal information on your phone could come up in a lawsuit as well bc it's all on the same device.

Everyone wearing jeans and playing on their Note 2 doesn't really prove anything about it being a business device.

I just find it funny bc they act like everyone in the business world is sportin' a Note 2 when all i see are iPhones and iPads.

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Originally Posted by G51989

I keep two phones, because our company doesn't let you do BYOG, and even if they did, and lots of companies do this, if you bring your own phone, they have remote access to it, and all the data on it, and may remotely wipe it at will, if the data is at all important.

exactly, he doesn't understand.

mattopotamus · Jan 24, 2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rmhop81

there are policies in place that prevent people from changing. the commercial is not accurate. Sure a relaxed place of business where peeps wear jeans all day will let you mix your personal and work on the same device. But a big corporation with policies in place about it...will not.

my wifes work is actually a small non-profit and she will get in trouble if she has any personal info on her work iPhone. Thus the need for 2 iPhones. She's not outdated with her devices...she has 2 iPhone 5's!

Also, what a lot of people don't know. If you work at a place that is BYOD....and some type of lawsuit happens or a public records request is started...your phone can be subject to that. So now your personal information on your phone could come up in a lawsuit as well bc it's all on the same device.

Everyone wearing jeans and playing on their Note 2 doesn't really prove anything about it being a business device.

I just find it funny bc they act like everyone in the business world is sportin' a Note 2 when all i see are iPhones and iPads.

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exactly, he doesn't understand.

again, you are just misinterpreting what I am saying. I clearly said I understand the need for two phones.....what I said is the commercial does a good job at making it look differently. If you do not understand what I mean, then forget it.

rmhop81 · Jan 24, 2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mattopotamus

again, you are just misinterpreting what I am saying. I clearly said I understand the need for two phones.....what I said is the commercial does a good job at making it look differently. If you do not understand what I mean, then forget it.

"It is less a shot a blackberry and more a shot at people still doing things the archaic way if that makes sense. The lady with a business phone and personal phone....why not just have 1."

why not just have 1? bc most people can't bc of policies at work lol

it appears that you don't understand......

sure we could all wear jeans and have one device...but that's not how the business world works.

powderblue17 · Jan 24, 2013, 01:18 PM

Considering RIM is going to be introducing a completely new platform in a couple of days this seems really off-base.

Are they not paying attention to what they're about to introduce because it looks really good? Maybe they should be comparing to that but they probably figure they don't have any advantage over the new platform and are worried about a comeback.

cynics · Jan 24, 2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rmhop81

there are policies in place that prevent people from changing. the commercial is not accurate. Sure a relaxed place of business where peeps wear jeans all day will let you mix your personal and work on the same device. But a big corporation with policies in place about it...will not.

my wifes work is actually a small non-profit and she will get in trouble if she has any personal info on her work iPhone. Thus the need for 2 iPhones. She's not outdated with her devices...she has 2 iPhone 5's!

Also, what a lot of people don't know. If you work at a place that is BYOD....and some type of lawsuit happens or a public records request is started...your phone can be subject to that. So now your personal information on your phone could come up in a lawsuit as well bc it's all on the same device.

Everyone wearing jeans and playing on their Note 2 doesn't really prove anything about it being a business device.

I just find it funny bc they act like everyone in the business world is sportin' a Note 2 when all i see are iPhones and iPads.

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exactly, he doesn't understand.

It also has a lot to do with preference. My old roommate worked for the gov on Aberdeen Proving Ground. Where he worked the only phone that passed their security test was the blackberry. He had an iPhone for his personal phone because he wasnt allowed to use the blackberry for personal use like you said and he didn't care for it. He now has an S3 for personal use.

Point is even if he was allowed to use the blackberry he'd still buy a personal phone he prefers to it.

mattopotamus · Jan 24, 2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rmhop81

"It is less a shot a blackberry and more a shot at people still doing things the archaic way if that makes sense. The lady with a business phone and personal phone....why not just have 1."

why not just have 1? bc most people can't bc of policies at work lol

it appears that you don't understand......

sure we could all wear jeans and have one device...but that's not how the business world works.

I am talking about the commercial....I am saying "the commercial makes it look like people doing things the archaic way"...holy cow. I am telling you what I meant by what I said...yet you are still confused.. I guess you know my thoughts better than me

F123D · Jan 24, 2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by powderblue17

Considering RIM is going to be introducing a completely new platform in a couple of days this seems really off-base.

Are they not paying attention to what they're about to introduce because it looks really good? Maybe they should be comparing to that but they probably figure they don't have any advantage over the new platform and are worried about a comeback.

When people think of blackberry, they think of the phones with the qwerty keyboards so using them in this ad makes sense. I don't think Samsung would get the same message across if they used a device that hasn't officially been announced and the average consumer isn't aware of yet.

powderblue17.. Philip Rivers fan?

Stuntman06 · Jan 24, 2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mattopotamus

I am talking about the commercial....I am saying "the commercial makes it look like people doing things the archaic way"...holy cow. I am telling you what I meant by what I said...yet you are still confused.. I guess you know my thoughts better than me

Are you saying that people who use separate home and work phones are doing thing the archaic way?

rmhop81 · Jan 24, 2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mattopotamus

I am talking about the commercial....I am saying "the commercial makes it look like people doing things the archaic way"...holy cow. I am telling you what I meant by what I said...yet you are still confused.. I guess you know my thoughts better than me

i know and i bolded what you said. she's doing it the archaic way...why doesn't she just have 1 cell phone??

i'm not confused at all.

the commercial is making it appear that people wear jeans to work everyday, have their personal information on their work phone and play games all day and not work. that must be how your work prefers to work....not the case in the corporate world.

people don't have 2 separate devices just for fun

opinioncircle · Jan 25, 2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by daveathall

Fair enough, you may be right. I have never in my life worked for a company that has to make a profit so could be naive. From the outside though, it certainly seems the way I portrayed in my first post.

Unfortunately I also agree with you and I work for a profit based company

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I just happen to be a hopeless utopian

bembol · Jan 25, 2013, 09:25 PM

Just saw the commercial during The Following.

I love these Samsung Galaxy commercials. Funny, Smart and Naughty like my favorite the Wife & Business Trip.

Technarchy · Jan 25, 2013, 09:29 PM

BB has a fan base.

BB10 should do wonders for stopping the market share bleed, and maybe even perk up share a little until the press shifts their attention to the S4 in Q2 and iPhone X in Q3.

Tinmania · Jan 25, 2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Technarchy

BB has a fan base.

I thought even he gave in and moved on.

Mike

BHP41 · Jan 26, 2013, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinmania

I thought even he gave in and moved on.

Mike

No, I believe Mr.Schmidt is still using it.

Internaut · Jan 26, 2013, 08:10 AM

The ad is clearly aimed at the BYOD crowd, reminding everyone the Samsung devices are secure for connecting to the enterprise. Of course they're fairly secure, because they use Android.

0dev · Jan 26, 2013, 08:18 AM

It's a good message, BlackBerries no longer have the monopoly on enterprise technology, both iOS and Android not only have the same features but are easier to manage. Managing a BES server is a nightmare for IT guys whereas implementing policies directly from Exchange is far easier.

That said, I do wonder how many people are comfortable using their personal phone as their work phone. I know a lot of people who like keeping them separate, especially since setting up your phone with your firm's Exchange means they can limit the functionality and remotely control your device. For those people I imagine keeping hold of a BB purely for work use and using another smartphone for personal use isn't a big deal.

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cynics macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2012	I use a work phone exclusively, work and personal phone (iPhone). I work for a small company and my bosses don't abuse it calling me day and night. But I can most certainly see why someone would choose to carry two phones. Last edited by cynics; Jan 24, 2013 at 08:18 AM.
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Technarchy macrumors 68020 Join Date: May 2012	BB has a fan base. BB10 should do wonders for stopping the market share bleed, and maybe even perk up share a little until the press shifts their attention to the S4 in Q2 and iPhone X in Q3. __________________ Steve Jobs, January 9th 2007, 10:44am: "We filed for over 200 patents for all the inventions in iPhone and we intend to protect them."
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Jan 24, 2013, 02:26 AM	#53
chewietobbacca macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2007	The situation isn't that far fetched... my own company allowed people to choose between the S3 and IP5 or a BB for work. Many consolidated their previous set up of personal phone + BB into one phone.
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Jan 24, 2013, 01:18 PM	#59
powderblue17 macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2007	Considering RIM is going to be introducing a completely new platform in a couple of days this seems really off-base. Are they not paying attention to what they're about to introduce because it looks really good? Maybe they should be comparing to that but they probably figure they don't have any advantage over the new platform and are worried about a comeback.
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Jan 25, 2013, 09:25 PM	#66
bembol macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: iCloud	Just saw the commercial during The Following. I love these Samsung Galaxy commercials. Funny, Smart and Naughty like my favorite the Wife & Business Trip.
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Jan 26, 2013, 08:10 AM	#70
Internaut macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: All over the place but mostly Somewhere in England	The ad is clearly aimed at the BYOD crowd, reminding everyone the Samsung devices are secure for connecting to the enterprise. Of course they're fairly secure, because they use Android.
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Jan 26, 2013, 08:18 AM	#71
0dev macrumors 68040 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 127.0.0.1	It's a good message, BlackBerries no longer have the monopoly on enterprise technology, both iOS and Android not only have the same features but are easier to manage. Managing a BES server is a nightmare for IT guys whereas implementing policies directly from Exchange is far easier. That said, I do wonder how many people are comfortable using their personal phone as their work phone. I know a lot of people who like keeping them separate, especially since setting up your phone with your firm's Exchange means they can limit the functionality and remotely control your device. For those people I imagine keeping hold of a BB purely for work use and using another smartphone for personal use isn't a big deal.
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