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Old Jun 13, 2014, 01:41 PM   #201
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You'd have to douse one really good to start a decent immolation pandemic.

...but what if they're fast zombies? Not the stumbling, slow, George Romero zombies, but the 28 Days Later variety?
those zombies are fake, they made them that way for the movie, everyone knows REAL zombies are slow , just Hollywoods way of messing with people, fast zombies, vampires that glow in the sun ETC.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 01:42 PM   #202
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Those are infected...not zombies

And you wait those guys out till they starve to death or dehydrate easier than fighting them.
You're right. Should've gone with Walking Dead zombies. They're a bit of both.

Though ultimately, you could play the waiting game with regular zombies as well. Even though they're not technically alive, and don't necessarily need a brain to function, they still rely on their muscles to move about. You could just hole up for a month or two and wait for the vast majority of them to rot away to immobility.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 01:44 PM   #203
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You're right. Should've gone with Walking Dead zombies. They're a bit of both.

Though ultimately, you could play the waiting game with regular zombies as well. Even though they're not technically alive, and don't necessarily need a brain to function, they still rely on their muscles to move about. You could just hole up for a month or two and wait for the vast majority of them to rot away to immobility.
you forget we are all infected, so as we croak new zombies appear
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 01:55 PM   #204
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you forget we are all infected, so as we croak new zombies appear
True. We'd all be dealing with zombies for years to come.

BUUTTT...

...the worst of it would be over after the first month or so. After that, all you'd have to worry about are the occasional stragglers.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 01:59 PM   #205
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True. We'd all be dealing with zombies for years to come.

BUUTTT...

...the worst of it would be over after the first month or so. After that, all you'd have to worry about are the occasional stragglers.
not just stragglers that we need to worry about, the only known DR who seems to know what the cure is happens to be captive in a train car, the living happen to be deadlier than the walkers in some cases , I hope I don't end up there, it will give new meaning to the words "we are having Mexican tonight"
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 02:05 PM   #206
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not just stragglers that we need to worry about, the only known DR who seems to know what the cure is happens to be captive in a train car, the living happen to be deadlier than the walkers in some cases
Shh. Not everyone has seen that far

And a flash pandemic caused by bites alone could infect 30 million real quick. Waiting them out would be tough since you'd probably be overwhelmed within the first 72hrs, and being the dead has anti-necrotic elements so the dead will be lingering a bit. Hard to wait out.

All you city folk out there would be screwed.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 02:08 PM   #207
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not just stragglers that we need to worry about, the only known DR who seems to know what the cure is happens to be captive in a train car, the living happen to be deadlier than the walkers in some cases , I hope I don't end up there, it will give new meaning to the words "we are having Mexican tonight"
Eh. The collapse of society won't mean you can't hole up somewhere and grow a garden. I doubt you'll have to worry about getting eaten. I mean all the people who got killed in the first wave of the zombie attacks means you've got more empty space to disappear in. Just move out to Kansas somewhere and start a little corn farm.

No one will go out to Kansas willingly. Kansas is boring!

On another note, we're really putting a lot of thought into this, aren't we? :P
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Eh. The collapse of society won't mean you can't hole up somewhere and grow a garden. I doubt you'll have to worry about getting eaten. I mean all the people who got killed in the first wave of the zombie attacks means you've got more empty space to disappear in. Just move out to Kansas somewhere and start a little corn farm.

No one will go out to Kansas willingly. Kansas is boring!

On another note, we're really putting a lot of thought into this, aren't we? :P
Deep down, or not so deep, everyone loves the zombie apocalypse.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 02:19 PM   #209
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Shh. Not everyone has seen that far

And a flash pandemic caused by bites alone could infect 30 million real quick. Waiting them out would be tough since you'd probably be overwhelmed within the first 72hrs, and being the dead has anti-necrotic elements so the dead will be lingering a bit. Hard to wait out.

All you city folk out there would be screwed.
depends on where you fortify yourself, I have the keys to the shop so i can move things around & wait things out a bit, every keyboard cowboy & wannabe bear grills clown will be hitting the roads & congesting them, let them take the brunt of the hit & wait things out in a safe spot BEFORE heading out.
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Eh. The collapse of society won't mean you can't hole up somewhere and grow a garden. I doubt you'll have to worry about getting eaten. I mean all the people who got killed in the first wave of the zombie attacks means you've got more empty space to disappear in. Just move out to Kansas somewhere and start a little corn farm.

No one will go out to Kansas willingly. Kansas is boring!

On another note, we're really putting a lot of thought into this, aren't we? :P
see above, everyone will try & "bug out" & simply become nothing but more zombies, wait things out a bit, there is a Costco I might take over AFTER things somewhat settle down
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 02:28 PM   #210
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Deep down, or not so deep, everyone loves the zombie apocalypse.
...unless you're right in the middle of it. Then it'd kinda suck. :P

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see above, everyone will try & "bug out" & simply become nothing but more zombies, wait things out a bit, there is a Costco I might take over AFTER things somewhat settle down
"You know what this means, Bobby? The buck fifty hot dogs aren't a buck fifty any more, and it's all you can eat day, son. First come, first serve"!

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Old Jun 13, 2014, 03:13 PM   #211
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...unless you're right in the middle of it. Then it'd kinda suck. :P



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Old Jun 13, 2014, 06:14 PM   #212
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This is one of the most intelligent gun threads ever. Just saying.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 11:42 PM   #213
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This is one of the most intelligent gun threads ever. Just saying.
how many guns would you like to have for the Zombie apocalypse?
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Old Jun 14, 2014, 03:50 AM   #214
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how many guns would you like to have for the Zombie apocalypse?
I acquired a taste for sheep's brains as a child in the Persian Gulf. I might just join up with the zombies.
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Old Jun 14, 2014, 11:13 AM   #215
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Tell that to the families of these 83 children, all of whom were killed by a gun accident (12/2012 through 11/2013):
Only 83? In a nation with 300,000,000 people and 300,000,000 guns? That seems pretty darn good, impressive even! It's a testament to the responsibility of the modern gun owner in America. Clearly the modern American gun owner is far far more responsible than the average citizen:

Consider that there are 121,000 accidental deaths per year in the US. Of those, 26,000 are from falling. 33,000 from car crashes. and 33,000 from poisoning. And only 83 of those 121,000 are children in firearms accidents? Bravo firearms owners, stay vigilant.

Edit: source http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
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Only 83? In a nation with 300,000,000 people and 300,000,000 guns? That seems pretty darn good, impressive even! It's a testament to the responsibility of the modern gun owner in America. Clearly the modern American gun owner is far far more responsible than the average citizen:

Consider that there are 121,000 accidental deaths per year in the US. Of those, 26,000 are from falling. 33,000 from car crashes. and 33,000 from poisoning. And only 83 of those 121,000 are children in firearms accidents? Bravo firearms owners, stay vigilant.

Edit: source http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
The fact that you even try to marginalize the deaths of children as "only" tells us how extreme you really are. You're talking children here. CHILDREN.

One child is one too many. Even Sarah Palin would agree with that. The very fact that you think that this is 'pretty impressive' is absolutely disgusting.

But I guess we have to grow to accept that from you.

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Old Jun 14, 2014, 11:47 AM   #217
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The fact that you even try to marginalize the deaths of children as "only" tells us how extreme you really are. You're talking children here. CHILDREN.

One child is one too many. Even Sarah Palin would agree with that. The very fact that you think that this is 'pretty impressive' is absolutely disgusting.

But I guess we have to grow to accept that from you.

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Ok, it's time to put on your big boy pants, I know this is a difficult subject, but even you can do it. Do you need a tissue? A hug? Ok, lets begin. Accident statistics are just that; statistics. If you want to discuss them, you've got to use a little emotional maturity. But Think Of The Children!!!1111 is not a coherent data point.

Your choice to focus on firearm accidents illuminates your biased agenda. More kids are killed by clueless soccer Mom backing them over them in her SUV. Probably with an Obama bumper sticker on the back:

http://www.kidsandcars.org/statistics.html

33,000 people are poisoned each year in the US. Poisoned! When's the last time you saw on the nightly news about someone being poisoned? Yet it happens 33,000 times every year. That's 33,000 times too many.

Focusing on the 83 when there's 121,000 other accidental deaths each and every year is really revealing; it shows either an inability to perform elementary school arithmetic, or a crooked biased agenda combined with a willingness to ignore reality. Which is it?
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Ok, it's time to put on your big boy pants, I know this is a difficult subject, but even you can do it. Do you need a tissue? A hug? Ok, lets begin. Accident statistics are just that; statistics. If you want to discuss them, you've got to use a little emotional maturity. But Think Of The Children!!!1111 is not a coherent data point.

Your choice to focus on firearm accidents illuminates your biased agenda. More kids are killed by clueless soccer Mom backing them over them in her SUV. Probably with an Obama bumper sticker on the back:

http://www.kidsandcars.org/statistics.html

33,000 people are poisoned each year in the US. Poisoned! When's the last time you saw on the nightly news about someone being poisoned? Yet it happens 33,000 times every year. That's 33,000 times too many.

Focusing on the 83 when there's 121,000 other accidental deaths each and every year is really revealing; it shows either an inability to perform elementary school arithmetic, or a crooked biased agenda combined with a willingness to ignore reality. Which is it?
This is a firearms thread, and you say that our focus on firearms illustrates our agenda? Reading comprehension FAIL.

Again, like the insipid comments made by Joe the Plumber, that even Republicans backed away from, your attempt to marginalize the deaths of children due to firearms is absolutely disgusting. There is no way around that. Judge me all you want; call me a 'bleeding heart liberal'. I'll wear that moniker with pride, because unlike yourself, I am actually caring more for our posterity in this country than an inanimate object that actually killed our posterity.

You really have no argument in this, because you actually marginalize child deaths to your right to keep your guns. That is absolutely disgusting. Again, we come to expect that from you. But do carry on; we are truly seeing the type of person you are.


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The fact that you even try to marginalize the deaths of children as "only" tells us how extreme you really are. You're talking children here. CHILDREN.

One child is one too many. Even Sarah Palin would agree with that. The very fact that you think that this is 'pretty impressive' is absolutely disgusting.

But I guess we have to grow to accept that from you.

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Then ban swimming pools. Since one child is too many. No one needs a swimming pool.

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As many as I can carry and still do ten minute miles. So probably not many

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33,000 people are poisoned each year in the US. Poisoned!
The "poisoning" deaths aren't murders, committed by wily temptresses slipping arsenic into the wealthy husband's cocktails.

"Poisonings" are overwhelmingly accidental deaths or suicides resulting from misuse or over-use of prescription and non-prescription medication. And, by the way, its now more than 40,000 each year.

Its a serious problem, largely driven by the widespread availability of new and more potent opioid analgesics ( oxycodone, methadone, or hydrocodone). Deaths from this sort of medication quadrupled, from about 4000 annually, to more than 16,000 annually between 1999 and 2010.

Drug poisoning made up 38,000 out of the 42,000 (88%) total "poisoning" deaths in the US in 2010. The rest involved misuse of household and industrial chemicals. They also include roughly 3,000 people who die from food poisoning every year. According to the FBI poison or narcotics were used to murder someone in the USA a mere 50 times in 2010.

Poisoning is a huge problem. But its one the medical community, drug makers, the pharmaceutical industry, and - yes - individual Americans need to address.
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Focusing on the 83 when there's 121,000 other accidental deaths each and every year is really revealing; it shows either an inability to perform elementary school arithmetic, or a crooked biased agenda combined with a willingness to ignore reality. Which is it?
Society is capable of multi-tasking. We are not restricted to handling only a single problem, focusing on the highest number and working our way down one step at a time.

While you believe this shows an inability to do arithmetic, I'd suggest your point of view demonstrates an inability to embrace human intelligence and social order, and our ability to work within society to tackle multiple problems at the same time.
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Society is capable of multi-tasking.
So you say...In practice, not so much.
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So you say...In practice, not so much.
You statement is not backed up by reality.

If you need further explanation, I'll detail some of the ways you are wrong.
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You statement is not backed up by reality.
"Society", and businesses, governments, and individuals, constantly multitask.

Though I have to wonder about "the media"-- that is, TV journalism. Something about the TV News medium and the people attracted to do it, and those who watch it. Once they get something in their sights, whether it is Benghazi, the War on Drugs, or children crossing the border, that is all they can talk about. Politicians cynically take advantage of it, and, the media reward them for "staying on message".
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You statement is not backed up by reality.

If you need further explanation, I'll detail some of the ways you are wrong.
Our society is a democratic republic.

The reps are party hacks.

These hacks have talking points and agendas.

Due to pork and collusion, one major issue is handled at a time to maximize press time, money, time and energy.

Low information voters get their information from hacks in the press that push the agenda or whatever gets headlines. Whatever is greater, creating myopic voters.
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