Copy of OS with new IMACS

NVRENUF! · Dec 5, 2012, 07:35 PM

How is the new imac's coming shipped with copy of the os ?
being there is no optical drive ! Are they coming with a USB copy bootable of the OS ?
what happens when you need to format and Re-Install?

or does it come with a disc and the expectation of using a external optical drive.

Stetrain · Dec 5, 2012, 07:56 PM

If it's like other recent macs, then it comes with a recovery partition on the hard drive as well as a firmware level internet recovery option.

The internet recovery option downloads the OS via the internet and installs it in case you replace the drive or otherwise lose the recovery partition.

iLondoner · Dec 6, 2012, 02:47 AM

If it's like my MacBook Air, the recovery partition doesn't include the OS, just a bootstrapping program that loads itself then uses the Internet to contact Apple and download the entire operating system plus all the in-built applications in one gigantic sdownload.

Macman45 · Dec 6, 2012, 02:49 AM

Internet recovery is the way Apple go now. Disk creator will allow you to download a copy of OSX and create a bootable USB drive in order to speed up the re-installation if required.

No physical disks have been supplied since SL, with Apple electing at first to sell USB drives for Lion, and now electing to go down the Internet / Cloud route.

simsaladimbamba · Dec 6, 2012, 02:50 AM

No Mac coming with Mac OS X 10.7 Lion or OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion has physical restore media included.

OS X: About OS X Recovery
OS X Recovery Disk Assistant

hideous cheese · Dec 6, 2012, 03:57 AM

Is there a way to directly redownload Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store (on machines 10.8 is preinstalled) rather than pfaff about with the restore Partition?

NVRENUF! · Dec 6, 2012, 06:50 AM

internet is all well and good but annoying when you want a fast install. and have multipul machines to do .

:/

simsaladimbamba · Dec 6, 2012, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVRENUF!

internet is all well and good but annoying when you want a fast install. and have multipul machines to do .

:/

For that you use the Recovery Disk Assistant linked to in my last post.

NVRENUF! · Dec 6, 2012, 06:56 AM

Cool this will work installing fresh new SSD ?

just need copy of osx ? on a usb or disc via usb cd drive yeah >?

simsaladimbamba · Dec 6, 2012, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVRENUF!

Cool this will work installing fresh new SSD ?

just need copy of osx ? on a usb or disc via usb cd drive yeah >?

Yes, this will work for installing Mac OS X on any kind of storage device.

And using a 4 GB USB flash memory thumb drive should suffice.

Weaselboy · Dec 6, 2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simsaladimbamba

For that you use the Recovery Disk Assistant linked to in my last post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVRENUF!

Cool this will work installing fresh new SSD ?

just need copy of osx ? on a usb or disc via usb cd drive yeah >?

Quote:

Originally Posted by simsaladimbamba

Yes, this will work for installing Mac OS X on any kind of storage device.

And using a 4 GB USB flash memory thumb drive should suffice.

No it won't. The Recovery Disk Assistant just uses a 1GB thumb drive to create the Recovery HD partition on a bootable USB key. Once booted from that USB key, the entire 4.7GB OS still must be downloaded from Apple's servers.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hideous cheese

Is there a way to directly redownload Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store (on machines 10.8 is preinstalled) rather than pfaff about with the restore Partition?

If your machine came with Mountain Lion, you did not buy it from the app store, so it will not be available there for you to download free. What you can do though is use this process to grab the installer from Apple's servers. Then use an 8GB USB key and this free app to make a full installer.

If your machine came with a previous OS and you bought Mountain Lion from the App Store, you could redownload and us the same free app to make that installer in to a USB key.

simsaladimbamba · Dec 6, 2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weaselboy

No it won't. The Recovery Disk Assistant just uses a 1GB thumb drive to create the Recovery HD partition on a bootable USB key. Once booted from that USB key, the entire 4.7GB OS still must be downloaded from Apple's servers.

Thanks for the correction, thought Apple would provide a better solution, since even Microsoft can do that, but then again, Apple is becoming less and less what it once was, which is good for some, and bad for some.

Anyway, as a correction:
Make An OS X Lion Boot Disc
How to create a bootable, backup Mountain Lion install disk

I will edit my snippet to reflect the changes, thanks again.

Razorhog · Dec 6, 2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simsaladimbamba

Apple is becoming less and less what it once was, which is good for some, and bad for some.

Good statement. I'm a little in both camps, but it seems that a large percentage of the people in the former are share holders.

blueroom · Dec 6, 2012, 12:53 PM

Optical is on its death bed.
I bought a cheap 8GB USB key and used Lion Diskmaker so I'm ready for an emergency.
http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/

hideous cheese · Dec 6, 2012, 02:21 PM

Thanks Weaselboy

I'd read elsewhere that if I machine comes pre-installed with iLife you can log into the App Store and the presence of iLife will be detected and the apps register as purchased. I wondered if something similar would happen for the pre-installed OS. This would make downloading it way easier.

First thing I'm doing is reinstalling the OS to wipe iLife (but would be useful to have them available later if I choose) and repartition the drive via creating an install partition on an external disk through the ML installer.

Weaselboy · Dec 6, 2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hideous cheese

Thanks Weaselboy

I'd read elsewhere that if I machine comes pre-installed with iLife you can log into the App Store and the presence of iLife will be detected and the apps register as purchased. I wondered if something similar would happen for the pre-installed OS. This would make downloading it way easier.

First thing I'm doing is reinstalling the OS to wipe iLife (but would be useful to have them available later if I choose) and repartition the drive via creating an install partition on an external disk through the ML installer.

On a new machine, once you "accept" the iLife apps under your AppleID, they will be shown on any machine you reinstall. Just look in the App Store under purchases with that same AppleID and they will be there.

NVRENUF! · Dec 6, 2012, 04:56 PM

What I am wondering is how
once i get the new 27inch rock up, and i swap out hdd for SSD
how do i get OS back on there.

I have purchased ML from app store for my current one.

simsaladimbamba · Dec 6, 2012, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVRENUF!

What I am wondering is how
once i get the new 27inch rock up, and i swap out hdd for SSD
how do i get OS back on there.

I have purchased ML from app store for my current one.

Either you clone it via CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper! or you look at post #11 again.

NVRENUF! · Dec 6, 2012, 05:03 PM

Great thanks.

anyone know where it downloads after purchase from app store?
so i can move it to a usb ?

mmomega · Dec 6, 2012, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVRENUF!

Great thanks.

anyone know where it downloads after purchase from app store?
so i can move it to a usb ?

Anytime you download and app from the app store it goes into the applications folder. OS X is no different.
Just open your Applications folder in Finder once it downloads and you will see it. Copy it to wherever you like then force quit the OS X installer.

Right Click on the "Install Mountain Lion OS X" app,
Show package contents
Contents
Open Shared Support Folder
Copy the "InstallESD.dmg" file to somewhere safe.

You can now remove the Install Mountain Lion OS X app for good.

Download Lion Diskmaker from the internet
insert at least an 8GB USB drive, open the Lion Diskmaker app
it will guide you what to do next
Once it is done you will have a fully bootable Mountain Lion install USB drive.

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NVRENUF! macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PERTH, Australia	Copy of OS with new IMACS How is the new imac's coming shipped with copy of the os ? being there is no optical drive ! Are they coming with a USB copy bootable of the OS ? what happens when you need to format and Re-Install? or does it come with a disc and the expectation of using a external optical drive.
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Stetrain macrumors 68030 Join Date: Feb 2009	If it's like other recent macs, then it comes with a recovery partition on the hard drive as well as a firmware level internet recovery option. The internet recovery option downloads the OS via the internet and installs it in case you replace the drive or otherwise lose the recovery partition.
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iLondoner macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: London (the big one, not London Ohio, Texas, Kentucky, etc)	If it's like my MacBook Air, the recovery partition doesn't include the OS, just a bootstrapping program that loads itself then uses the Internet to contact Apple and download the entire operating system plus all the in-built applications in one gigantic sdownload.
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hideous cheese macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2012	Is there a way to directly redownload Mountain Lion from the Mac App Store (on machines 10.8 is preinstalled) rather than pfaff about with the restore Partition?
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NVRENUF! Thread Starter macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PERTH, Australia	internet is all well and good but annoying when you want a fast install. and have multipul machines to do . :/
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NVRENUF! Thread Starter macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PERTH, Australia	Cool this will work installing fresh new SSD ? just need copy of osx ? on a usb or disc via usb cd drive yeah >?
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hideous cheese macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2012	Thanks Weaselboy I'd read elsewhere that if I machine comes pre-installed with iLife you can log into the App Store and the presence of iLife will be detected and the apps register as purchased. I wondered if something similar would happen for the pre-installed OS. This would make downloading it way easier. First thing I'm doing is reinstalling the OS to wipe iLife (but would be useful to have them available later if I choose) and repartition the drive via creating an install partition on an external disk through the ML installer.
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NVRENUF! Thread Starter macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PERTH, Australia	What I am wondering is how once i get the new 27inch rock up, and i swap out hdd for SSD how do i get OS back on there. I have purchased ML from app store for my current one.
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NVRENUF! Thread Starter macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PERTH, Australia	Great thanks. anyone know where it downloads after purchase from app store? so i can move it to a usb ?
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