bets on new TB displays

[majkom]

Originally Posted by yinz

Not only the mini, I think a Thunderbolt Display with built in GPU will affect the bigger MacBook Pros as well. The 13" will draw more attention and the 15" sales will start to slip. Why get a 15" when you can have the portability and have the graphics.

Thats is exactly my point.

Business model based look - apple wont do that - killing part of more expensive macbooks sales and imac sales

BUT

Customer satisdfaction based look: great argument for apple to implement gpu intu TBD - that would make apples notebooks even more dominant - no other notebook maker will have this comparative advantage.. imagine, Apples notebook - ultra portable, long battery life and at home, almost desktop experience...

Hope apple will consider this and try to innovate once again...

[joachimnb]

Wow, it certainly started discussion, the talk about GPU in TBD. I am not saying that there is a great amount of possibility that Apple would innovate again and make this, but I am glad that there are others who think this GPU integration would be a great thing. With demand there is some sort of chance for such thing to come.

Even though computers in a few years would be much more powerful in terms of full capability while running an external display, I think that a GPU in the external display would have its place. It can only be a nice supplement which use is relative to the hardware in one's computer. Also, if we are going to see Retina on a bigger scale, such as a 27 inch display, this GPU could be a supplement necessary for years to come.

I thank you for writing Tim if you do so!

[needfx]

Originally Posted by joachimnb

Wow, it certainly started discussion, the talk about GPU in TBD. I am not saying that there is a great amount of possibility that Apple would innovate again and make this, but I am glad that there are others who think this GPU integration would be a great thing. With demand there is some sort of chance for such thing to come.

Even though computers in a few years would be much more powerful in terms of full capability while running an external display, I think that a GPU in the external display would have its place. It can only be a nice supplement which use is relative to the hardware in one's computer. Also, if we are going to see Retina on a bigger scale, such as a 27 inch display, this GPU could be a supplement necessary for years to come.

I thank you for writing Tim if you do so!

retina TBD possibly needing a GPU boost is definitely an interesting point! I can hardly imagine an hd4000 being able to handle 27 inches of retina crammed pixels

[majkom]

Originally Posted by joachimnb

Wow, it certainly started discussion, the talk about GPU in TBD. I am not saying that there is a great amount of possibility that Apple would innovate again and make this, but I am glad that there are others who think this GPU integration would be a great thing. With demand there is some sort of chance for such thing to come.

Even though computers in a few years would be much more powerful in terms of full capability while running an external display, I think that a GPU in the external display would have its place. It can only be a nice supplement which use is relative to the hardware in one's computer. Also, if we are going to see Retina on a bigger scale, such as a 27 inch display, this GPU could be a supplement necessary for years to come.

I thank you for writing Tim if you do so!

I did, but still no reply tim is probably busy studying this concept

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Originally Posted by needfx

retina TBD possibly needing a GPU boost is definitely an interesting point! I can hardly imagine an hd4000 being able to handle 27 inches of retina crammed pixels

Actually, HD4000 is not being able to handle even TBDs actual resolution - mac os x animations are not smooth...

[needfx]

[QUOTE=majkom;16529876]I did, but still no reply tim is probably busy studying this concept[COLOR="#808080"]

he is also looking for his bigger pair of seeing glasses

[yinz]

Regarding the Thunderbolt Display with GPU. I think, like the iPad Mini, the only way this will happen is if 3rd party companies start developing screens with built in GPU to create a market strong enough to crush the Apple Thunderbolt Display. Then, maybe, Apple will create one of their own.

[needfx]

Originally Posted by yinz

Regarding the Thunderbolt Display with GPU. I think, like the iPad Mini, the only way this will happen is if 3rd party companies start developing screens with built in GPU to create a market strong enough to crush the Apple Thunderbolt Display. Then, maybe, Apple will create one of their own.

though a good point, I can hardly see third party TB displays any time soon, while with integrated GPUs, makes it science-fiction material.

moreover, would Apple licence 3rd party TB display to work with macs?

[yinz]

Originally Posted by needfx

though a good point, I can hardly see third party TB displays any time soon, while with integrated GPUs, makes it science-fiction material.

moreover, would Apple licence 3rd party TB display to work with macs?

I'm just saying, for thundbolt display to have GPU, they would need competitors, or it's highly unlikely they'll do it...

[majkom]

Originally Posted by yinz

I'm just saying, for thundbolt display to have GPU, they would need competitors, or it's highly unlikely they'll do it...

and that is very sad commentary... apple should push for next big thing

[tejota1911]

I don't see a TBD with integrated GPU happening. While having the HD4000 drive the TBD may be a little shaky for gaming and graphics intensive applications, it's doable for a lot of people. Intel Haswell with HD4600 is due in a few months and should offer a decent GPU performance boost, allowing Apple's non-pro(Most don't consider the 13" MBP to really be a 'Pro' machine) lineup to drive the TBD more smoothly.

[yinz]

Originally Posted by majkom

and that is very sad commentary... apple should push for next big thing

When has apple ever? I got the idea that apple doesn't really make a push into uncharted territory. It always waits for things to establish first, LTE case in point.

[needfx]

Originally Posted by yinz

When has apple ever? I got the idea that apple doesn't really make a push into uncharted territory. It always waits for things to establish first, LTE case in point.

funny sentiment that one

they do make it seem as if they are actually innovating

[majkom]

Originally Posted by tejota1911

I don't see a TBD with integrated GPU happening. While having the HD4000 drive the TBD may be a little shaky for gaming and graphics intensive applications, it's doable for a lot of people. Intel Haswell with HD4600 is due in a few months and should offer a decent GPU performance boost, allowing Apple's non-pro(Most don't consider the 13" MBP to really be a 'Pro' machine) lineup to drive the TBD more smoothly.

Hopong next intel gpu will be finally ok is silly, they promised wonders with 3000, 4000 and they will every next time

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Originally Posted by yinz

When has apple ever? I got the idea that apple doesn't really make a push into uncharted territory. It always waits for things to establish first, LTE case in point.

If ypu say that apple never brought next big thing, there wont be any serious discussion with you

[CWallace]

Originally Posted by yinz

When has apple ever? I got the idea that apple doesn't really make a push into uncharted territory. It always waits for things to establish first, LTE case in point.

Apple has often innovated in consumer PCs. They were (one of) the first to adopt as standard items like the 3.5" floppy drive, USB, CD and DVD burners, SCSI, FireWire, ThunderBolt, etc.

The reason Apple didn't go with LTE with the iPhone 4/4S body is that it would have had to be thicker and heavier both to accommodate the chipset and a larger battery to power it.

Because the iPhone 5 uses later-generation LTE chipsets that are smaller and more power-efficient, the iPhone 5 is thinner and lighter than the iPhone 4 - much less an iPhone 4 that was thicker and heavier

[yinz]

Originally Posted by CWallace

Apple has often innovated in consumer PCs. They were (one of) the first to adopt as standard items like the 3.5" floppy drive, USB, CD and DVD burners, SCSI, FireWire, ThunderBolt, etc.

The reason Apple didn't go with LTE with the iPhone 4/4S body is that it would have had to be thicker and heavier both to accommodate the chipset and a larger battery to power it.

Because the iPhone 5 uses later-generation LTE chipsets that are smaller and more power-efficient, the iPhone 5 is thinner and lighter than the iPhone 4 - much less an iPhone 4 that was thicker and heavier

LTE was really just an example I thought about on the fly, don't dwell on it.

Originally Posted by majkom

If ypu say that apple never brought next big thing, there wont be any serious discussion with you

I have no idea what This means.

Originally Posted by needfx

funny sentiment that one

they do make it seem as if they are actually innovating

Yeah, the idea is pretty much brainwashed into people. I think it happens a lot in their advertisements.

[needfx]

so now that iMacs are manufactured at satisfactory yields, is the time to refresh those TB displays nigh?

[linds15]

Originally Posted by needfx

so now that iMacs are manufactured at satisfactory yields, is the time to refresh those TB displays nigh?

think the major assumption that most are going with it that they will come out with the new mac pros...whenever that ends up being

[needfx]

Originally Posted by linds15

think the major assumption that most are going with it that they will come out with the new mac pros...whenever that ends up being

I haven't stumbled upon that

thanks!