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http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/02/google-nexus-4/

If you take this link and put your IMEI number at the very end, this LG site will spit back out the IMEI followed by a long string of characters that looks something like this: “LGE960 ACAGBK 212KPHG188745 20121206 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N”

If you break this string apart, you get:
LGE960 = phone model
A = ?
CA = Country where the device was sold. (Others include ‘US’ for the U.S., ‘HK’ for Hong Kong, ‘AU’ for Australia and so on.)
G = Storage (G = 16GB, 8 = 8GB)
BK = Color
2 = ?
12 = Production Month (November)
K = Production Country (Korea)
PHG = ?
188745 = The line or production number, showing that phone was the 188,745th device made.
2012121206 = The production date in YYYYMMDD format

A number of Nexus 4 owners have been sharing and compiling the production numbers day by day (see below). It suggests that LG made about 70,000 devices in October, 90,000 in November and 210,000 in December. Google declined to comment on these numbers.

Still, they’re interesting for a couple reasons. It appears that Google and LG have been conservative with the Nexus 4 launch. LG has previously said that the Nexus 4 “had proven extremely popular, and as such retailers have been met with huge demand.” Google’s U.K. and Ireland managing director Dan Cobley likewise has said there have been communication problems on both ends with managing supply for the Nexus 4.

Keeping supplies tight have made the Nexus 4 debut a world apart from the launch of the original HTC-manufactured Nexus One back in 2010.


From the original source:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36282756&postcount=198

Ok, did additional poking, the results as follows:

Phone produced in Oct had serial#
10000 19th of Oct, AUS8BK
20000 USA
45000
60000 AUS
70123 ATMOBK (t-mobile)

Something like 70k devices produced in October

Nov
73000 1-th AO2UBK (O2 UK model)
75000 5-th AO2UBK
80000 5-th AO2UBK
85000 21-th (?) AUKGBK - strange,
90000 9-th AUS8BK
92000 10-th AUS8BK
95000 - USA
109000 - GER
110000 - UK
132000 - USA
138000 - USA
150000 - USA
160000 - AUSGBK

DEC
165000
264000
265133 14-th ADEUBK GERMANY
266133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
267133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
268133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
269133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
270133 15-th ASWSBK SWS Switzerland (looks like around 500 units)
271133 16-th AISRBK Israel
272133 15-th ADEUBK Germany
273133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
274133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
275133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
277133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
278133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
279133 16-th AMYSBK
280123 17-th AMYSBK
289000 18-th UK
300123 19-th ADEGBK
305112 19-th ACA8BK
306000 28-Oct (?) AUSGBK, 211KPPB306000 "csn" is also very different from the "surroundings"
306001 8-Oct AUSGBK 211KPHG306001 esnoutgodate=null >>Never shipped?
306009 4-th Dec AUSGBK 212KPHG306009 esnoutgodate=null
306010 19-th AUS8BK 212KPYR306010 esnoutgodate=null
306020 19-th AUS8BK esnoutgodate=null
314001 19-th AFRGBK
314002 19-th ADEGBK
314050 19-th ADEGBK
314123 19-th ADEGBK
315112 19-th ADE8BK
319123 20-th ADEGBK
320123 20-th ADEGBK
321123 20-th AAUGBK
325112 20-th AUSGBK
330123 20-th AUSGBK
340123 21-th ACAGBK
350123 22-th AUS8BK
360123 26-th AUSGBK
365123 27-th AUS8BK
370123 27-th AUSGBK
374110 28-th AUSGBK

January 2013
375110 2-th AUS8BK
377110 3-th ASFRBK
381110 2-th ASFRBK
385110 3-th AGBRBK GBR "UNITED KINGDOM" - a new retailer? Play store was a AUKGBK
390110 3-th AUSGBK
395110 4-th AUSGBK
399110 3-th ATMOBK
400110 4-th AUSGBK
406110 4-th AUSGBK
419110 5-th AUSGBK
420110 6-th ADEGBK
422110 6-th ADEGBK
423110 5-th ATMOBK

So, it looks like el goog + lg are powering full stream ahead, was nearly afraid that they they will stop at 375k.

Now it looks like we are at 423k devices or more than 10k devices per day, the same rate as in Dec.
I'd say - not bad at all.



-----------------------------------------

October: 70,000
November: 90,000
Dec: 210,000
January: 300,000 doable? (at the rate of 10,000 per day)
 

Frankied22

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Whatever it is its not enough. They need to crank more out and get them back in stock on the Play Store. I really would love to be able to order one.
 

Dr McKay

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Why are they specifying Network in the number? The handsets they're selling are unlocked. I got impatient and picked one up from O2, my EE sim works in it fine.
 

EbookReader

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even 300,000 a month in production is not enough.

LG needs to crank this up to 500,000 a month.
 

Obese Lobsters

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Google should have use samsung again for the Nexus 4. LG has been a disaster. Hell even use motorola or HTC.

I'd have to disagree with you there. I had a Galaxy Nexus before the Nexus 4 and Samsung clearly didn't put forth their best hardware, and this is judging by the camera alone. Battery life for the GalNex was subpar at best (only slightly better than the 3Gs it replaced) and I felt the plastic was even subpar.

LG on the other hand has essentially taken their top tier Optimus G and turned it into the nexus 4, albeit it without the fantastic 13 MP camera. I'm still not sure why the nexus 4 screen isn't calibrated, supposedly the Optimus G screens are calibrated though not to apple or HTC levels.

On an unrelated note coming from a 3Gs since August, I'm completely puzzled that Android 4.2 doesn't give you the ability to deny individual apps permission to use location based services. First day I had my nexus (both gal and 4), Maps via google now, killed my battery life.
 

ChrisTX

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I'd have to disagree with you there. I had a Galaxy Nexus before the Nexus 4 and Samsung clearly didn't put forth their best hardware, and this is judging by the camera alone. Battery life for the GalNex was subpar at best (only slightly better than the 3Gs it replaced) and I felt the plastic was even subpar.

LG on the other hand has essentially taken their top tier Optimus G and turned it into the nexus 4, albeit it without the fantastic 13 MP camera. I'm still not sure why the nexus 4 screen isn't calibrated, supposedly the Optimus G screens are calibrated though not to apple or HTC levels.

On an unrelated note coming from a 3Gs since August, I'm completely puzzled that Android 4.2 doesn't give you the ability to deny individual apps permission to use location based services. First day I had my nexus (both gal and 4), Maps via google now, killed my battery life.
My guess is that the Nexus phones are designed by Google completely, but only manufactured by LG.
 

blackhand1001

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I'd have to disagree with you there. I had a Galaxy Nexus before the Nexus 4 and Samsung clearly didn't put forth their best hardware, and this is judging by the camera alone. Battery life for the GalNex was subpar at best (only slightly better than the 3Gs it replaced) and I felt the plastic was even subpar.

LG on the other hand has essentially taken their top tier Optimus G and turned it into the nexus 4, albeit it without the fantastic 13 MP camera. I'm still not sure why the nexus 4 screen isn't calibrated, supposedly the Optimus G screens are calibrated though not to apple or HTC levels.

On an unrelated note coming from a 3Gs since August, I'm completely puzzled that Android 4.2 doesn't give you the ability to deny individual apps permission to use location based services. First day I had my nexus (both gal and 4), Maps via google now, killed my battery life.

Turn off location history in maps. Also, The nexus 10 proves that this time around Samsung produced an extremely high end product for the nexus family.
 

EbookReader

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Could LG going for volume to make up for the low margin?

Example:

selling 1 million phones at $50 profit each = $50 million profit
selling 4 million phones at $15 profit each = $60 million profit
 

blackhand1001

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Could LG going for volume to make up for the low margin?

Example:

selling 1 million phones at $50 profit each = $50 million profit
selling 4 million phones at $15 profit each = $60 million profit

Their still making more than 50$ on these. They just aren't producing enough to meet the demand. The price isn't the problem. Its that they would rather make optimus g's and low budget phones than produce enough nexus's to meet the demand. They should have made 4 times as many as they have so far. The demand is clearly there for them. Asus has no problem pumping out over a million nexus 7's a month. LG clearly isn't taking the nexus program as seriously as they should have. Samsung has shown several times that it does take it seriously. The nexus 10 is just as high end as the nexus 4 if not even more high end considering its the first cortex a15 on the market. With dolphin beta instead of chrome (which shouldn't have replaced the stock browser yet) it gets 500ms sunspider tests which is almost half the time the second fastest device gets. It also has ridiculously fast flash storage. It has over 100MB/s read speeds which is over twice as fast as the second fastest mobile devices storage. They didn't cheap out on it. Not to say that the nexus 4 isn't high end either, it is the device with the second fastest storage about 50MB/s, but LG has proven that they aren't willing to meet the demand of a nexus phone. Samsung had no problem meeting the demand of the Galaxy nexus at launch.
 
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500,000 shipped on Jan 10th.
20,000 per day production?



http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36552448&postcount=237


Anyone can, the data is lurking free in the internutz.

424110 10-th AUSGBK
425110 8-th AUSGBK
430110 5-th ATMOBK
435110 5-th ATMOBK
445110 9-th ATMOBK
450110 9-th ATMOBK
451110 8-th ANEUBK "EUROPE OPEN" - something new
455110 8-th ANEUBK
456110 8-th ACAGBK CANADA_OPEN
461110 8-th ATMOBK
463110 8-th ADEGBK
465110 8-th ADEGBK
467110 9-th ADEGBK
469110 9-th ADEGBK
471110 9-th ATMOBK
474110 9-th ATMOBK
476110 9-th ATMOBK
479110 9-th AUS8BK
482110 9-th ATMOBK
485110 10-th AUKGBK "UNITED KINGDOM_OPEN"
487110 10-th AUKGBK
489110 10-th AUKGBK
491110 10-th AAVCBK VIDEOTRON - seems to be a Canadian telco?
493110 10-th ADEUBK
495110 10-th ADEUBK
497110 10-th AISRBK
499500 10-th AUKGBK

Ladies and gentleman, we seem to be approaching the serial number "half of the million" Curious who will be getting it

Production rate seems to be accelerating to 20k devices per day. So, they are really doing something. The "esndate" date "jumping" of TMO devices looks somehow conspicious, but "esnoutgodate" of most of them seems to be a 10-th of January, so maybe those are just some production irregularities.
Most of other serials and dates seem to mostly follow that same sequential pattern.

To sum it up: it looks like T-Mobile is getting a serious pile of devices. Noticed that they are selling well?
There is another noticeable batch for germany play store.

ANEUBK "EUROPE OPEN" seems to be something new. Start of normal retail sales through LG channels?
 

thekev

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LG on the other hand has essentially taken their top tier Optimus G and turned it into the nexus 4, albeit it without the fantastic 13 MP camera. I'm still not sure why the nexus 4 screen isn't calibrated, supposedly the Optimus G screens are calibrated though not to apple or HTC levels.

It comes down to costs. Using something appropriate for directly setting hardware levels such as a radiometer would mean a lot of very slow expensive hardware. This may not be feasible in a device that retails for $300-350.
 

Obese Lobsters

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It comes down to costs. Using something appropriate for directly setting hardware levels such as a radiometer would mean a lot of very slow expensive hardware. This may not be feasible in a device that retails for $300-350.

I still don't think cost would increase by much if LG were to calibrate the screen. The choice of an 8 MP camera instead of the 13 MP camera I believe was so they wouldn't have a bulge like the one X, a design decision I can appreciate even if the pictures still are worse than an iPhone 4
 

thekev

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I still don't think cost would increase by much if LG were to calibrate the screen. The choice of an 8 MP camera instead of the 13 MP camera I believe was so they wouldn't have a bulge like the one X, a design decision I can appreciate even if the pictures still are worse than an iPhone 4

Well there's always some level of calibration. I was just saying that they may have needed to remove as many costs as possible to drive the price down that far. It seems like a very nice device for its price point.
 

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577,000 mark

<model>LGE960</model>
<suffix>AUKGBK</suffix>
<msn>301KPAE577000</msn>
<esndate>20130113</esndate>
<buyer>UKG</buyer>
<esnoutgodate>null</esnoutgodate>
<ULocationcode>N</ULocationcode>
<buyername>UNITED KINGDOM_OPEN</buyername>
<csn>LG0000502521437</csn>
 

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http://biz.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/01/15/2013011500650.html

LG denies the rumor that it is stopping production of Nexus 4.

google translation so it is not the best

the Nexus 5 will showcase next month, some rumors "unfounded," said LG Electronics official dismissed some foreign LG Electronics 14, 2010 (local time) Nexus 4 production stopped and the next reference phone, the Nexus 5 strives to develop, he said.
 
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