TRIM on Samsung 840

Shadow%20Mac · Dec 15, 2012, 01:59 AM

Just installed a 500GB SSD (Samsung 840) in my 2011" MacBook Pro. Do I need to enable TRIM support? How would I go about doing that? Is it something I should bother with or are the performance decreases I've heard about just a myth of misinformed tech-heads?

MikeSantor · Dec 15, 2012, 10:38 AM

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1507367

Shadow%20Mac · Dec 15, 2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSantor

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1507367

thank you!

bsbeamer · Jan 20, 2013, 07:00 AM

Just installed a Samsung 840 500GB in my late 2008 MacBook Pro (2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB 1067 DDR3, OS X 10.8.2). Purchased the standard version of the 840 SSD, not pro version. Installed in the main drive bay next to the battery. Getting 210MB/s read, 270MB/s write out of the box without TRIM enabled. Same EXACT speeds with TRIM enabled via Trim Enabler app (after restart). Guess I will leave it enabled for now? Any recommendations here?

Repurposed my old HDD with an OWC Data Doubler in the DVD optical bay. Carbon Copy Cloner to selective clone to the SSD for initial setup without any issues at all. (Never have had any issues with CCC - it's a fantastic program.) Using the optical bay HDD for media, photos, large file storage, etc. Have original system HDD in USB enclosure that I'll be using for backup/clones of the SSD.

So far extremely happy I did this. Quieter, cooler, faster. Battery life has been phenomenal on this older laptop so far. Definitely longer lasting than with HDD/DVD previously. Did not do any hacks for shutting down the HDD sooner, etc. Left power settings alone and managed in the OS.

Freyqq · Jan 20, 2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsbeamer

Just installed a Samsung 840 500GB in my late 2008 MacBook Pro (2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB 1067 DDR3, OS X 10.8.2). Purchased the standard version of the 840 SSD, not pro version. Installed in the main drive bay next to the battery. Getting 210MB/s read, 270MB/s write out of the box without TRIM enabled. Same EXACT speeds with TRIM enabled via Trim Enabler app (after restart). Guess I will leave it enabled for now? Any recommendations here?

Repurposed my old HDD with an OWC Data Doubler in the DVD optical bay. Carbon Copy Cloner to selective clone to the SSD for initial setup without any issues at all. (Never have had any issues with CCC - it's a fantastic program.) Using the optical bay HDD for media, photos, large file storage, etc. Have original system HDD in USB enclosure that I'll be using for backup/clones of the SSD.

So far extremely happy I did this. Quieter, cooler, faster. Battery life has been phenomenal on this older laptop so far. Definitely longer lasting than with HDD/DVD previously. Did not do any hacks for shutting down the HDD sooner, etc. Left power settings alone and managed in the OS.

trim prevents degradation of speeds over time. If you just installed the drive, no degradation has occurred yet.

Shadow%20Mac · Jan 21, 2013, 10:32 AM

Just a month after my Samsung 840 500GB was installed, it died on me. No volumes recognizable, unrepairable by any disk utility, confirmed by the genius bar as a hardware error. The drive is still under warranty, so I'll get it replaced and sell it with my old laptop, as I just purchased a new one with integrated flash storage.

Vailfox · Feb 6, 2013, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow%20Mac

Just a month after my Samsung 840 500GB was installed, it died on me. No volumes recognizable, unrepairable by any disk utility, confirmed by the genius bar as a hardware error. The drive is still under warranty, so I'll get it replaced and sell it with my old laptop, as I just purchased a new one with integrated flash storage.

Which version of firmware did you have installed in the Samsung 840 500gb?

Shadow%20Mac · Feb 6, 2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vailfox

Which version of firmware did you have installed in the Samsung 840 500gb?

I'm not sure about the version number, but the drive had a boot camp partition. Within Windows, I installed Samsung's Magician software, which told me that my firmware was up to date (this was, of course, before the drive failed)

Orlandoech.com · Feb 6, 2013, 07:16 PM

See the SDD Tweak Guide in my Sig for performance tweaks and TRIM.

Vailfox · Feb 7, 2013, 03:23 AM

Thanks guys.
Is advisable to enable TRIM (with unofficial applications) in my Macbook Pro 2011 with Mountain Lion?
My SSD is 500gb Samsung 840

CarreraGuy · Feb 7, 2013, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow%20Mac

Just a month after my Samsung 840 500GB was installed, it died on me. No volumes recognizable, unrepairable by any disk utility, confirmed by the genius bar as a hardware error. The drive is still under warranty, so I'll get it replaced and sell it with my old laptop, as I just purchased a new one with integrated flash storage.

Scary, I'm coming up on a month with mine

Any details up to the point of death? I have trim enabled with 64-bit Snow Leopard and no bootcamp so far so good <knock on wood>

trustever · Feb 7, 2013, 06:02 AM

The best advice you can get is to to keep an up to date back up... this is valid for any HD... You can't predict the day they will fail but you can be ready for it

Shadow%20Mac · Feb 7, 2013, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarreraGuy

Scary, I'm coming up on a month with mine

Any details up to the point of death? I have trim enabled with 64-bit Snow Leopard and no bootcamp so far so good <knock on wood>

Trim Enabled, 64-Bit ML

Honestly, I think it was random fluke. Samsung has a good reputation with the SSD

DeadeyeM · Apr 25, 2013, 03:33 PM

I had the same problem my 840 dead on me, around also a month, i was using Chameleon SSD Optimizer. So not sure should i still use it....

Rhyalus · 05:27 AM

So rather than revive an older thread....

I have the Samsung 840 500GB and enabled trim with Trim Enabler a couple of months ago. No problems at all.

I know I checked subsequently and all was still ok, but today I ran Trim Enabler on a whim, and rather than it saying that "everything is super", it said that trim was not enabled.

I enabled it, rebooted, and all is well again.

Any ideas what could trigger trim being turned off?

EDIT: Just did some searching and now see that OS updates can switch it off. Anything else that might do this that I need to watch out for?

Thanks,
R

paul-n · Apr 26, 2013, 07:05 AM

Usually you need to re-enable trim after updating your os.

Dec 15, 2012, 01:59 AM	#1
Shadow%20Mac macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oakland, CA	TRIM on Samsung 840 Just installed a 500GB SSD (Samsung 840) in my 2011" MacBook Pro. Do I need to enable TRIM support? How would I go about doing that? Is it something I should bother with or are the performance decreases I've heard about just a myth of misinformed tech-heads? __________________ 15" rMBP Intel Core i7 2.7GHz Quad, 16GB RAM, 512GB Flash Storage (Mac OS X 10.8.2); iPhone 5 32GB AT&T (iOS 6.1); iPad 4 Wi-Fi 32GB (iOS 6.1)
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Jan 21, 2013, 10:32 AM	#6
Shadow%20Mac Thread Starter macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oakland, CA	Just a month after my Samsung 840 500GB was installed, it died on me. No volumes recognizable, unrepairable by any disk utility, confirmed by the genius bar as a hardware error. The drive is still under warranty, so I'll get it replaced and sell it with my old laptop, as I just purchased a new one with integrated flash storage. __________________ 15" rMBP Intel Core i7 2.7GHz Quad, 16GB RAM, 512GB Flash Storage (Mac OS X 10.8.2); iPhone 5 32GB AT&T (iOS 6.1); iPad 4 Wi-Fi 32GB (iOS 6.1)
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Feb 6, 2013, 07:16 PM	#9
Orlandoech.com macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Salt Lake City, UT	See the SDD Tweak Guide in my Sig for performance tweaks and TRIM. __________________ GUIDE: SSD Tweaking GUIDE: DIY Fusion Drive SSD Benchmark Comparison USB3 HDD vs SSD
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Apr 26, 2013, 05:16 AM	#15
Rhyalus macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2011	So rather than revive an older thread.... I have the Samsung 840 500GB and enabled trim with Trim Enabler a couple of months ago. No problems at all. I know I checked subsequently and all was still ok, but today I ran Trim Enabler on a whim, and rather than it saying that "everything is super", it said that trim was not enabled. I enabled it, rebooted, and all is well again. Any ideas what could trigger trim being turned off? EDIT: Just did some searching and now see that OS updates can switch it off. Anything else that might do this that I need to watch out for? Thanks, R Last edited by Rhyalus; Apr 26, 2013 at 05:27 AM.
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Dec 15, 2012, 10:38 AM	#2
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Jan 20, 2013, 07:00 AM	#4
bsbeamer macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2012	Just installed a Samsung 840 500GB in my late 2008 MacBook Pro (2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 8GB 1067 DDR3, OS X 10.8.2). Purchased the standard version of the 840 SSD, not pro version. Installed in the main drive bay next to the battery. Getting 210MB/s read, 270MB/s write out of the box without TRIM enabled. Same EXACT speeds with TRIM enabled via Trim Enabler app (after restart). Guess I will leave it enabled for now? Any recommendations here? Repurposed my old HDD with an OWC Data Doubler in the DVD optical bay. Carbon Copy Cloner to selective clone to the SSD for initial setup without any issues at all. (Never have had any issues with CCC - it's a fantastic program.) Using the optical bay HDD for media, photos, large file storage, etc. Have original system HDD in USB enclosure that I'll be using for backup/clones of the SSD. So far extremely happy I did this. Quieter, cooler, faster. Battery life has been phenomenal on this older laptop so far. Definitely longer lasting than with HDD/DVD previously. Did not do any hacks for shutting down the HDD sooner, etc. Left power settings alone and managed in the OS.
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Feb 7, 2013, 03:23 AM	#10
Vailfox macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2011	Thanks guys. Is advisable to enable TRIM (with unofficial applications) in my Macbook Pro 2011 with Mountain Lion? My SSD is 500gb Samsung 840
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Feb 7, 2013, 06:02 AM	#12
trustever macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2013	The best advice you can get is to to keep an up to date back up... this is valid for any HD... You can't predict the day they will fail but you can be ready for it
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Apr 25, 2013, 03:33 PM	#14
DeadeyeM macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2012	I had the same problem my 840 dead on me, around also a month, i was using Chameleon SSD Optimizer. So not sure should i still use it....
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Apr 26, 2013, 07:05 AM	#16
paul-n macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2012	Usually you need to re-enable trim after updating your os.
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