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Old Apr 1, 2013, 04:15 PM   #1
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What would you pay for clearance cMBP?

What would you consider a good deal for a clearance cMBP (MD322LL/A), the model released in late 2011? (I don't know how old the actual machine is for sale)

Local Best Buy is offering this for $1099, but I don't know yet what they mean by "clearance" - I don't know if it is an old floor model, a return, etc. I'm considering it if its a good enough deal & I can knock a little more off (I got them to take $80 off an open box iPad 4). How much could I reasonably ask them to take off, assuming the computer is in like-new condition?

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2.4GHz Intel i7 (I assume Sandy Bridge)
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750GB SATA HD
Intel HD Graphics 3000, AMD Radeon HD
OS X Lion installed
Other standard features

Never had an Apple Macbook. Currently have an iPhone 5 & iPad 4. Needing to retire my old Dell Inspiron, and wanting to go Mac route now. I'm not highly tech savvy, and won't be using it for anything fancy. Not a gamer, not planning on running a ton of stuff simultaneously. I can always upgrade internals later if need be anyway. I'll be using it for Word Processing a lot, plus some spreadsheets, website maintenance, light photo editing, etc. I'm considering an older model because I just don't need latest, greatest, plus budget is tight. I probably won't be replacing it in the next 2-3 years, but more like 4-5.

Any advice is appreciated. Many thanks...
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Old Apr 1, 2013, 04:22 PM   #2
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Best Buy wants to charge you $1099, while Apple is offering a refurbished version of the same computer for $1589. That's almost 50% more.

Short of it being completely busted (open it in the store, turn it on and play with it for a couple minutes), I'd jump on it.
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Old Apr 1, 2013, 04:33 PM   #3
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Just called about it. Computer was in the process of being sold right then. BTW, it was new, sealed in box. Heartbreak.
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Old Apr 1, 2013, 04:34 PM   #4
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Damn, that's terrible. I'd cry bitter, techie tears for at least a few minutes if it were me.

Though, upon a few more minutes' cynical reflection, I wouldn't put it past Best Buy to post such impossibly good deals to generate site traffic and be "fresh out" when a customer calls about the too-good-to-be-true offer.
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Old Apr 1, 2013, 04:55 PM   #5
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LOL - techie tears.

As cynical as I am too about stuff like that, I think this was legit, judging by my conversation with the Geek Squad rep. It was the only model they had, and I think they had just bottomed the price out since it had been in inventory too long. I happened to see it 15 minutes too late (Face in palm).

I can wait til Summer for sure. Hoping with Haskell release, etc., we we will see places really dropping their prices on 2012 MBP inventory by September. I may pay a little more but I still may find a decent deal, on a newer machine.
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That is a darn shame. I'm guessing it was glossy screen (I prefer high-rez-matt myself).

Still though I would have to think long and hard (a few minutes) before trying to jump on that deal.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 03:19 PM   #7
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As if it couldn't get any worse, I'll tell the follow up story:

So the next day, I happened to be looking at the online open box inventory for the same store. Saw that they had the same computer (same SKU) that was listed the day before - except now it was open box, and marked down to $950.

I immediately called & talked to same Geek Squad tech that had helped me the day before. Turns out the dude that bought it for 1099 brought it home, opened it, & had buyers remorse. Brought it back later that night right before closing & returned it. Open box now, marked down to $950.

I asked her to hold it for me. After waiting on hold a few minutes, she got back on the phone and said: "you're not going to believe this. Someone else has it on hold and is on their way over to pick it up right now." I protested somewhat, citing the fact that I had expressed interest in it the night before but had no idea it was back in stock. But in the end I just missed another opportunity. Again.

I wondered if there was something fishy going on, like while I was on hold, someone on the Geek Squad overheard this great deal, called up their brother and said "dude, i've got a steal for you. Some other guy is calling about it but I can put this on hold for you right now if you can get over here & pick it up."

I mean, if I worked at Best Buy I'd have bought the thing myself with an added employee discount even if I didn't need it, since you are pretty much guaranteed a profit if you turn around & resell it on craigslist.

Meh, c'est la vie.
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As if it couldn't get any worse, I'll tell the follow up story:

So the next day, I happened to be looking at the online open box inventory for the same store. Saw that they had the same computer (same SKU) that was listed the day before - except now it was open box, and marked down to $950.

I immediately called & talked to same Geek Squad tech that had helped me the day before. Turns out the dude that bought it for 1099 brought it home, opened it, & had buyers remorse. Brought it back later that night right before closing & returned it. Open box now, marked down to $950.

I asked her to hold it for me. After waiting on hold a few minutes, she got back on the phone and said: "you're not going to believe this. Someone else has it on hold and is on their way over to pick it up right now." I protested somewhat, citing the fact that I had expressed interest in it the night before but had no idea it was back in stock. But in the end I just missed another opportunity. Again.

I wondered if there was something fishy going on, like while I was on hold, someone on the Geek Squad overheard this great deal, called up their brother and said "dude, i've got a steal for you. Some other guy is calling about it but I can put this on hold for you right now if you can get over here & pick it up."

I mean, if I worked at Best Buy I'd have bought the thing myself with an added employee discount even if I didn't need it, since you are pretty much guaranteed a profit if you turn around & resell it on craigslist.

Meh, c'est la vie.
That is why you never call and ask for deals like this. You must go in the store and ask yourself.
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 01:56 PM   #9
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As if it couldn't get any worse, I'll tell the follow up story:

So the next day, I happened to be looking at the online open box inventory for the same store. Saw that they had the same computer (same SKU) that was listed the day before - except now it was open box, and marked down to $950.

I immediately called & talked to same Geek Squad tech that had helped me the day before. Turns out the dude that bought it for 1099 brought it home, opened it, & had buyers remorse. Brought it back later that night right before closing & returned it. Open box now, marked down to $950.

I asked her to hold it for me. After waiting on hold a few minutes, she got back on the phone and said: "you're not going to believe this. Someone else has it on hold and is on their way over to pick it up right now." I protested somewhat, citing the fact that I had expressed interest in it the night before but had no idea it was back in stock. But in the end I just missed another opportunity. Again.

I wondered if there was something fishy going on, like while I was on hold, someone on the Geek Squad overheard this great deal, called up their brother and said "dude, i've got a steal for you. Some other guy is calling about it but I can put this on hold for you right now if you can get over here & pick it up."

I mean, if I worked at Best Buy I'd have bought the thing myself with an added employee discount even if I didn't need it, since you are pretty much guaranteed a profit if you turn around & resell it on craigslist.

Meh, c'est la vie.
Maybe if you wait till tomorrow you'll get it for 750$!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 01:46 PM   #10
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That is why you never call and ask for deals like this. You must go in the store and ask yourself.
Trust me i would have - except I live 1.5 hours from the store. In the end the deal would have been worth the drive, but before potentially wasting 3 hours of my time & gas $$, I had to call to see if it was still in stock, as well as the reason for return/condition of item.

What is interesting to me is the discrepancies in how BB prices their clearance & open box inventory. The cMBP that I referenced here was clearly a huge bargain. But at the same exact store, they are trying to sell clearance 2012 rMBP for at least $100 more than what you can find online with tax & free shipping (which means you are really paying $200+ more at BB for said "clearance" rMBP when you add in taxes). This does not really seem like much of a clearance, price-wise. I know they are limited somewhat by what Apple will "allow" them to mark down. But when it comes to open box, apparently anything goes - haggling is allowed & price is ultimately the manager's call, depending on how many are in stock, how desperate they are to clean their shelves off, etc.
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BTW, how does BB prevent the following scenario:

Let's say I go buy an unopened clearance rMBP for $1900. I immediately go to my car, open the packaging, and then go back in and return it, this time with a friend. After the return, they have to mark it open box, with the 10% discount, right? Can my friend (as a separate customer from me) then not immediately ask to purchase the same exact computer for open box discount? That's almost a $200 instant savings. I personally would not do that as it just seems a little too shady and chinchy, but I was just curious how BB keeps that loophole closed.
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BTW, how does BB prevent the following scenario:

Let's say I go buy an unopened clearance rMBP for $1900. I immediately go to my car, open the packaging, and then go back in and return it, this time with a friend. After the return, they have to mark it open box, with the 10% discount, right? Can my friend (as a separate customer from me) then not immediately ask to purchase the same exact computer for open box discount? That's almost a $200 instant savings. I personally would not do that as it just seems a little too shady and chinchy, but I was just curious how BB keeps that loophole closed.
Nothing is to keep someone from doing that except honesty.

What goes around comes around, though...
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BTW, how does BB prevent the following scenario:

Let's say I go buy an unopened clearance rMBP for $1900. I immediately go to my car, open the packaging, and then go back in and return it, this time with a friend. After the return, they have to mark it open box, with the 10% discount, right? Can my friend (as a separate customer from me) then not immediately ask to purchase the same exact computer for open box discount? That's almost a $200 instant savings. I personally would not do that as it just seems a little too shady and chinchy, but I was just curious how BB keeps that loophole closed.
I would say nothing, except best buy tracks returns through a drivers license so you could only do it a limited amount of times before they say no more returns.
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