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Old Nov 18, 2014, 07:47 AM   #851
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Why doesn't sprint deploy carrier aggregation for 1900MHz? I notice in many (if not most markets) they have chunks of 5x5MHz carriers on PCS that is non-contiguous....they could easily lace these together using CA for 15x15 in areas like Chicago....would help users with CA capable devices even if they weren't on B41...I know they want to CA Band 41 but 1900 could use it too!

See the carrier aggregation chart below....
I don't know the answer to that question. I know they are working on CA in some form, but I'm not sure if that includes Band 25 or not.

My understanding is that CA is something that will be focused on more once NV is completely done. Lots of places still without Band 41 AND Band 26 right now.

If you're good with registering there, s4gru.com can probably answer the question better. I don't care for the management or culture over there, but the site does have quite a few cellular/wireless experts focusing on Sprint.
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 09:21 AM   #852
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Why doesn't sprint deploy carrier aggregation for 1900MHz? I notice in many (if not most markets) they have chunks of 5x5MHz carriers on PCS that is non-contiguous....they could easily lace these together using CA for 15x15 in areas like Chicago....would help users with CA capable devices even if they weren't on B41...I know they want to CA Band 41 but 1900 could use it too!



See the carrier aggregation chart below....

Because Sprint is incompetent. Simple as that.

Of course, if you go on that cesspool called S4GRU, those clowns will swear up and down that Sprint is the next VZW/AT&T killer.

Good luck with that. Maybe they need to concentrate on actually deploying LTE on every site in major cities. Parts of Boston still have no LTE. It's been almost 2 years now. Come on
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 10:46 AM   #853
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I don't know the answer to that question. I know they are working on CA in some form, but I'm not sure if that includes Band 25 or not.

My understanding is that CA is something that will be focused on more once NV is completely done. Lots of places still without Band 41 AND Band 26 right now.

If you're good with registering there, s4gru.com can probably answer the question better. I don't care for the management or culture over there, but the site does have quite a few cellular/wireless experts focusing on Sprint.
Well Band 41 and Band 26 aren't some magic bullet (although s4gru guys might believe this), Sprint seams so overly obsessed with Band 41 (probably because they have so much of it but still)....I never understood their deployment plan of LTE what so ever, never mind the fact at how slow it was but I think they could have done allot with their PCS. Sprint has said they are only going to focus on CA with Band 41, which is why a bunch of sprint users got upset when they were the only ones with iPhone 6's that wouldn't support carrier aggregation (iPhone 6 won't CA Band 41). Maybe their new CEO and staff have changed their views on CA with PCS though...I know they tweaked their B41 roll out. Honestly I hate Sprint but at the same time I want them to succeed, they have so much potential...they are like that genius kid with a bad upbringing that keeps screwing up but keeps getting chances....lol.
Yeah I find S4gru to be very informative...I mean sure its got some pretty deluded characters on there but it is just a gold mine of information because its so big, you just have to wade through the coal, and the platypus s*** to get to the good stuff. I've learned plenty about cellular tech in general from that site, definitely some serious experts on their, I wish I could get them to put all that energy into Howards Forums!

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Because Sprint is incompetent. Simple as that.

Of course, if you go on that cesspool called S4GRU, those clowns will swear up and down that Sprint is the next VZW/AT&T killer.

Good luck with that. Maybe they need to concentrate on actually deploying LTE on every site in major cities. Parts of Boston still have no LTE. It's been almost 2 years now. Come on
Lol I can't blame you for this viewpoint at all...I read S4gru occasionally and sometimes those threads are a bit too uh...rabidly tainted with the kool aid for my liking. Next VZW killer LOL that's like thinking your going to win a zillion dollars, turn into a glowing purple pig, grow wings and fly over the moon...its not just unrealistic, its insane. lol.
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Well Band 41 and Band 26 aren't some magic bullet (although s4gru guys might believe this), Sprint seams so overly obsessed with Band 41 (probably because they have so much of it but still)....I never understood their deployment plan of LTE what so ever, never mind the fact at how slow it was but I think they could have done allot with their PCS. Sprint has said they are only going to focus on CA with Band 41, which is why a bunch of sprint users got upset when they were the only ones with iPhone 6's that wouldn't support carrier aggregation (iPhone 6 won't CA Band 41). Maybe their new CEO and staff have changed their views on CA with PCS though...I know they tweaked their B41 roll out. Honestly I hate Sprint but at the same time I want them to succeed, they have so much potential...they are like that genius kid with a bad upbringing that keeps screwing up but keeps getting chances....lol.
Yeah I find S4gru to be very informative...I mean sure its got some pretty deluded characters on there but it is just a gold mine of information because its so big, you just have to wade through the coal, and the platypus s*** to get to the good stuff. I've learned plenty about cellular tech in general from that site, definitely some serious experts on their, I wish I could get them to put all that energy into Howards Forums!



Lol I can't blame you for this viewpoint at all...I read S4gru occasionally and sometimes those threads are a bit too uh...rabidly tainted with the kool aid for my liking. Next VZW killer LOL that's like thinking your going to win a zillion dollars, turn into a glowing purple pig, grow wings and fly over the moon...its not just unrealistic, its insane. lol.
Rolling out LTE at 5x5 was a mistake. Just not enough bandwidth on there. Band 41 is great though where I live, NYC. I get anywhere from 15mbs - 60mbs download. Band 26 has helped a good amount for indoors.

I get it, I used to hate having sprint. But the difference is night and day from a year ago. I am always on LTE and its fast.

Just depends on your market, NYC is nice right now.
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 12:21 PM   #855
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yep, service with the 6 bc of band 41 has been a complete turn around in NYC for me as well. I'm glad I didn't switch to another carrier bc I love my unlimited plan now. let's just hope they don't start throttling users! I went from 2-3gb on my 5s (band 25 always) to 15gb monthly. also the phone switches from 3G to LTE much faster than before. sometimes I wouldn't get LTE once I was in an lte zone unles I reset with airplane mode. now it always happens seamlessly
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 01:07 PM   #856
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I found this pretty interesting

https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...nsas-City.html

Sprint is based in Kansas City and yet they are in last place.
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I found this pretty interesting



https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...nsas-City.html



Sprint is based in Kansas City and yet they are in last place.

Ironic.

The funny part is all the bragging about B41 speeds on the web. Welcome to 2011 Sprint users. AT&T and VZW users have had these speeds for almost three years now.
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I found this pretty interesting

https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...nsas-City.html

Sprint is based in Kansas City and yet they are in last place.
That is pretty sad. I don't think there are any markets where Sprint is actually ranked first. Maybe not even second.
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 02:33 PM   #859
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I don't mind.

I pay around $211 a month. The only thing variable is the cents.

1st line - $110
2nd line - $19.99
2x $10 (Premium Data Fee) - $20
2x $11 (TEP) - $22
2GB Hotspot - $20

With taxes and fees it averages to $211.

I could have moved, but didn't want Framily and the now discontinued All In and My Way plans were more expensive for less lines. Keep in mind, that when Claure came in is only when the prices started dropping. And that was late August when I ultimately made the decision to leave.

Now, I don't move because I don't want a recommittment on a cheaper plan when I'm planning on leaving.
thx, I was just wondering because i'm trying to figure out if my plan is "acceptable", I actually don't have too much of a problem with sprint service (as I mentioned to you in another thread) but I recently lost a 27% discount and am paying almost $90 for my plan (single line).

of course I know people that have VzN in my area that are capped at around 2gb and pay over $100
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Ironic.

The funny part is all the bragging about B41 speeds on the web. Welcome to 2011 Sprint users. AT&T and VZW users have had these speeds for almost three years now.
Who cares? Its here now and thats what matters. Im getting faster speeds then other carriers at times also.
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Yeah I find S4gru to be very informative...I mean sure its got some pretty deluded characters on there but it is just a gold mine of information because its so big, you just have to wade through the coal, and the platypus s*** to get to the good stuff. I've learned plenty about cellular tech in general from that site, definitely some serious experts on their, I wish I could get them to put all that energy into Howards Forums!



Lol I can't blame you for this viewpoint at all...I read S4gru occasionally and sometimes those threads are a bit too uh...rabidly tainted with the kool aid for my liking. Next VZW killer LOL that's like thinking your going to win a zillion dollars, turn into a glowing purple pig, grow wings and fly over the moon...its not just unrealistic, its insane. lol.
s4gru.com

Where do I start. Well it's all been said in this thread I think. Most of the users there are refugees from sprintusers.com and howardforums.com. Their denial of certain realities in relation to Sprint caused them to seek their own place.

I don't care for their rules, so I will never give them the satisfaction of registering and then banning me - my first post would get me banned.

No matter though, as they are quite aware of who I am and my opinion about them.

Despite that you are correct. Their information is generally good so I lurk there to find what I can. If you can put up with some of the personalities there you can find things, as you state.

I'll leave it at that for now.

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yep, service with the 6 bc of band 41 has been a complete turn around in NYC for me as well. I'm glad I didn't switch to another carrier bc I love my unlimited plan now. let's just hope they don't start throttling users! I went from 2-3gb on my 5s (band 25 always) to 15gb monthly. also the phone switches from 3G to LTE much faster than before. sometimes I wouldn't get LTE once I was in an lte zone unles I reset with airplane mode. now it always happens seamlessly
I am starting to be of the opinion that Phoenix is going to be one of those places that Sprint customers will always suggest a different carrier for.

AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile all have their good markets, just like Sprint does. It seems Phoenix is T-Mobile's market.

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thx, I was just wondering because i'm trying to figure out if my plan is "acceptable", I actually don't have too much of a problem with sprint service (as I mentioned to you in another thread) but I recently lost a 27% discount and am paying almost $90 for my plan (single line).

of course I know people that have VzN in my area that are capped at around 2gb and pay over $100
No worries! This is one of the reasons I never left Sprint a few years back. Nobody had unlimited and for anything close it was like $500 a month or more.

The Un-Carrier thing is only recent and now T-Mobile has strongly attracted my attention.
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I am starting to be of the opinion that Phoenix is going to be one of those places that Sprint customers will always suggest a different carrier for.

AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile all have their good markets, just like Sprint does. It seems Phoenix is T-Mobile's market.
Does Sprint own low-band spectrum in PHX?

AT&T doesn't own any CLR in PHX, yet their PCS network (+ B17 LTE) seems to be killing it there. I wonder if Sprint will improve for you once B25 (is that correct? 800 LTE) goes up?

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No worries! This is one of the reasons I never left Sprint a few years back. Nobody had unlimited and for anything close it was like $500 a month or more.
I know we all go on and on about how important unlimited data is, but how much do you really use? Do you think your data usage will go up a lot after you leave Sprint, since you don't have to rely on wifi as much?

I got one of my friends off Sprint a few months ago and onto VZW's 2gb plan and he doesn't get close to his data cap.

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Does Sprint own low-band spectrum in PHX?

AT&T doesn't own any CLR in PHX, yet their PCS network (+ B17 LTE) seems to be killing it there. I wonder if Sprint will improve for you once B25 (is that correct? 800 LTE) goes up?
Honestly, I have no idea. A little birdie once told me that the only reason Sprint has a presence in PHX is because Sprint bought out it's local partners during the Nextel merger to stop lawsuits.

So, whatever those guys had, plus Clearwire. I know 800 is rolling out, but for my iPhone 5 that's voice only. Spark will be some time in 2017.
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I know we all go on and on about how important unlimited data is, but how much do you really use? Do you think your data usage will go up a lot after you leave Sprint, since you don't have to rely on wifi as much?

I got one of my friends off Sprint a few months ago and onto VZW's 2gb plan and he doesn't get close to his data cap.
Yeah, that has been suggested to me a few times and it makes a certain sense. But I won't go that route simply because it's not what I want to do.

So far this month I've used close to 50GB on WiFi. My behavior has not changed since getting an LTE phone. I still do everything I did with my HTC Touch Pro, it's just on LTE (or should be) now instead of 3G.

So, our usage won't change. It'll just shift from WiFi back to LTE. 10-50GB is about what we were doing on 3G from 2008 to 2012. Nothing's changed much, except Sprint's inability to handle the same amount of load.
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Does Sprint own low-band spectrum in PHX?

AT&T doesn't own any CLR in PHX, yet their PCS network (+ B17 LTE) seems to be killing it there. I wonder if Sprint will improve for you once B25 (is that correct? 800 LTE) goes up?



I know we all go on and on about how important unlimited data is, but how much do you really use? Do you think your data usage will go up a lot after you leave Sprint, since you don't have to rely on wifi as much?

I got one of my friends off Sprint a few months ago and onto VZW's 2gb plan and he doesn't get close to his data cap.

Band 25 is FDD LTE 1900MHz PCS (extended)
-Band 2 is FDD LTE 1900MHz PCS (subset of Band 25)

Band 26 is FDD LTE 800MHz extended CLR
-Band 5 is FDD LTE 850MHz CLR (subset of Band 26)

Band 41 is TD-LTE 2500MHz
-Band 38 is TD-LTE 2600MHz (subset of Band 41, not really relevent but just showing the comparison, although some Sprint cell sites also broadcast at Band 38 in addition to Band 41)

So if Sprint gets B26 up I imagine it will help...I know they have the license for B26 in PHX, just a matter of getting it up...

Does Sprint have B41 up in Phoenix? They have a license for it I know that....probably very little use for iPhone 5/5S users but it might help to take the load off PCS a bit.
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