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Old Jun 23, 2013, 07:30 AM   #76
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Old Jun 23, 2013, 01:46 PM   #77
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Yeah, but nobody else's ego was so damn big that they needed an hour long TV special to announce that they were "taking their talents to south beach".


What's the point of even having a league if you just have a superteam that's gonna win every year anyways? Sounds a lot like the Harlem Globetrotters.
LeBron is good but his team may or may not keep up with him so at best they may go one trophy for every four years after his whole career is said and done. If he can stay healthy and have 16 years and four championships, then that's great in this day and age. LeBron will be considered a great, if not already, whether he has championships or not. Individually there are accolades awarded as there are to players of teams who win it all. You can be pretty under the radar and get a couple of championships but if your numbers are not there, you won't be remembered like one who had the skills. Sir Charles never won but he will be remembered for the rest of his life. Last year LeBron put the icing on the cake to get a championship to go along with all his great playing and records. This year was a nice extra for LeBron but had the Spurs won nobody would be out there saying LeBron sucks. Who out there can honestly say Tim Duncan sucks?

LeBron still not MJ and no team is close a superteam other than the Celtics who went 11 for 13 in the day. I am sure the rest of the league was bored but for the Celtics it was one magical run that will never be matched in any major professional sport. You will get individual super performances like MJ's 30 ppg in basketball, Gretzky's scoring in hockey, or Ichiro having many base hits for an extended period of time.

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Old Jun 25, 2013, 11:03 AM   #78
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LeBron is good but his team may or may not keep up with him so at best they may go one trophy for every four years after his whole career is said and done. If he can stay healthy and have 16 years and four championships, then that's great in this day and age. LeBron will be considered a great, if not already, whether he has championships or not. Individually there are accolades awarded as there are to players of teams who win it all. You can be pretty under the radar and get a couple of championships but if your numbers are not there, you won't be remembered like one who had the skills. Sir Charles never won but he will be remembered for the rest of his life. Last year LeBron put the icing on the cake to get a championship to go along with all his great playing and records. This year was a nice extra for LeBron but had the Spurs won nobody would be out there saying LeBron sucks. Who out there can honestly say Tim Duncan sucks?

LeBron still not MJ and no team is close a superteam other than the Celtics who went 11 for 13 in the day. I am sure the rest of the league was bored but for the Celtics it was one magical run that will never be matched in any major professional sport. You will get individual super performances like MJ's 30 ppg in basketball, Gretzky's scoring in hockey, or Ichiro having many base hits for an extended period of time.
sorry to necro post but I have to disagree about MJ. I watched a video recently that explained that the MJ era was the weakest era in the league because of the acquisition of a bunch of new teams (thus the talent was diluted). thoughts?
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sorry to necro post but I have to disagree about MJ. I watched a video recently that explained that the MJ era was the weakest era in the league because of the acquisition of a bunch of new teams (thus the talent was diluted). thoughts?
It would be interesting indeed to see where MJ would have placed among stronger competition.

It football it seems often quoted that some teams like Patriots and great 2000s dynasty and 49ers and 80s dynasty were helped by both teams being in weak divisions, AFC East and NFC West, respectively. It also shows the "greatness" of teams like the Cowboys when they shined being in an almost perennially great NFC East. That doesn't automatically make the Cowboys a better team than the Pats or Niners, but through football history those darn Cowboys are probably America's team and in win-loss and division crowns, they are the closest thing that sport has to baseball's New York Yankees.
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