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Mac mini as a media center? Advice?
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Might not sound like that, but work on it. I bet that 90% of people who work on boss-bought computers, would become way more productive with a macmini. Even if it says i5. I never had a better machine on my desk (that trophy comes partly because of the connected NEC W301PA screen).
Depends on the NAS and the HDDs within it.
If you have a 5 Bay NAS, like I have, then when on its probably consuming the same, if not more, power then a mac mini!
Again, with the Mini you are still able to share and stream files to any of your devices also.
I'm actually in the process of selling my NAS setup and replacing it with a new Mac Mini server - for me it'll be a lot more flexible, and will probably save on power also.
I've got two minis as media centers, one connects to a TV and DVR (to transcribe broadcasts for future viewing) and the other to a monitor by our exercise machine. They generally run Plex and are controlled with remotes (Logitech Harmony One in the first case). These are older, base models with DVD drives so those can be used as well. And Safari is used to stream Amazon Prime and websites not supported by Plex.
A third mini acts as a central file server for Plex and other services for our Macs. It has 5.5TB of drives plus a "toaster" for bare drives to back up the system. This system runs 24/7 for over 2 years now and consumes 70 watts of power, most of which is to spin the drives.
A third mini acts as a central file server for Plex and other services for our Macs. It has 5.5TB of drives plus a "toaster" for bare drives to back up the system. This system runs 24/7 for over 2 years now and consumes 70 watts of power, most of which is to spin the drives.
So, does anyone have issues with transcoding on the mini 2011? I have the server one with i7 and plex 0.9.6.9. Its the plex server and the client besides my tv. The fans really kick in when transcoding, and i had a 2007 model here the other day, and it wasnt really any louder. Any tips greatly appreciated.
If all you want is a Media center, the MAc mini is way to expensive!
Just get the WD Live TV Hub, which act as a server, has 1 TB internal HD, and 2 USB ports for extra drives. On sale you can find them for $179. I have 2 and they work great.
The have less expensive media players that do not act like server and no internal HD for around $89.
If you truly want just media center, Mac mini is WAY overkill just to run XBMC.
The WD does all files types (MKV included), and does music, and photos witha very nice interface.
Online stuff as well, Netflix, ect.
I've been using a Mac Mini as a media player since about 2004. First a PowerPC model, then two generations of Intel models.
Current configuration uses a 6 disk NAS for media storage. Previous setups used multiple firewire attached external drive enclosures.
The most used software is iTunes (using the iOS Remote app), Remote Buddy (to give me a multi-app 10 foot interface), Hulu, Connect360 (export media to Xbox), Safari (streaming from websites), and Jolly's Fast VNC (remote access from laptops).
I run my media machine without a keyboard or mouse attached and rely on VNC for most access. An older setup used a white Apple bluetooth keyboard with the media Mini but the keyboard became much less useful after I added a Harmony One remote to the system.
Since the media mini is the only hardwired machine that I leave powered on at all times it also hosts various home services. VPN service, local DNS primary, update server, etc.
Current configuration uses a 6 disk NAS for media storage. Previous setups used multiple firewire attached external drive enclosures.
The most used software is iTunes (using the iOS Remote app), Remote Buddy (to give me a multi-app 10 foot interface), Hulu, Connect360 (export media to Xbox), Safari (streaming from websites), and Jolly's Fast VNC (remote access from laptops).
I run my media machine without a keyboard or mouse attached and rely on VNC for most access. An older setup used a white Apple bluetooth keyboard with the media Mini but the keyboard became much less useful after I added a Harmony One remote to the system.
Since the media mini is the only hardwired machine that I leave powered on at all times it also hosts various home services. VPN service, local DNS primary, update server, etc.
Is it possible to use a Mac mini with one or two LaCie 2big thunderbolt hdd as a mediacenter/player AND as a server/"NAS" at the same time?
Would it be possible to run windows 7/8 with XBMC as mediacenter and at the same time stream to other users on my LAN?
Would it be possible to run windows 7/8 with XBMC as mediacenter and at the same time stream to other users on my LAN?
I'm in the same boat.
I paid around £260 for a QNAP NAS (and thats without storage), it's a big ugly black thing that's loud as hell even when doing nothing, it takes 2+ mins to startup and shutdown and takes up too much space sat next to my TV, i've resorted to leaving it switched off most of the time due to the vibration it causes.
I've just registered with iTunes Match so now i really want another Apple TV for downstairs.. i was thinking it may be a better idea to scrap the ATV and QNAP, with the money i make off qnap plus with money i'd spend on the ATV3 i could buy a mac mini and use that instead? yeah i'd need to upgrade the disks at some point but i'm not storing much anyway.
You guys mention the new mac mini being over kill, if i was to grab 2010 model with the 2.4ghz core 2 duo off ebay (much cheaper) would that stream HD content OK? (wired)
I paid around £260 for a QNAP NAS (and thats without storage), it's a big ugly black thing that's loud as hell even when doing nothing, it takes 2+ mins to startup and shutdown and takes up too much space sat next to my TV, i've resorted to leaving it switched off most of the time due to the vibration it causes.
I've just registered with iTunes Match so now i really want another Apple TV for downstairs.. i was thinking it may be a better idea to scrap the ATV and QNAP, with the money i make off qnap plus with money i'd spend on the ATV3 i could buy a mac mini and use that instead? yeah i'd need to upgrade the disks at some point but i'm not storing much anyway.
You guys mention the new mac mini being over kill, if i was to grab 2010 model with the 2.4ghz core 2 duo off ebay (much cheaper) would that stream HD content OK? (wired)
Yes. You could export the storage space using NFS, AFP, or SMB.
It is not possible to run OS X and Windows on the same machine at the same time unless you run Windows in a Virtual Machine. The performance of virtualized video is significantly slower than native hardware so it is likely to be a problem for running XBMC in a VM.
You can run XBMC under OS X and steam to other users on the LAN.
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I'm currently using a 2.26GHz Intel Core Duo 2 with 4GB RAM to playback video from a NAS without a problem on a 1Gb/s ethernet. The same machine will handle reading from the NAS and streaming out to an iPad client.
Yes. You could export the storage space using NFS, AFP, or SMB.
It is not possible to run OS X and Windows on the same machine at the same time unless you run Windows in a Virtual Machine. The performance of virtualized video is significantly slower than native hardware so it is likely to be a problem for running XBMC in a VM.
You can run XBMC under OS X and steam to other users on the LAN.
Thx mrichmon, very appreciated
The reason for running win 7/8 is that it's the only way to bitstream HD audio, OSX can't provide it, I was told ....
But again ,
If I'm only running win7/8 and not OSX, then it would be possible to stream to other users??
Kindly
Jan
If you are only running Windows then there is no problem streaming to other users via XBMC.
The problem is if you want to be accessing the attached storage when booted into OS X and when booted into Windows on the server. Stick with one OS and streaming together with NAS access is easy. Try to setup so that the external storage can be accessed from both operating systems on the server and you end up in a world of not very good compromises.
You're very kind, thx for your advice! I'm sure I'll be back when I've done my purchases (at the time when the 27" BTO iMac will be available..... New mini, new iMac, LaCie 2big thunderbolt... Can't hardly wait any more :// )
Kindly
Jan
Kindly
Jan
I recently tried airplay mirroring my mac in my bedroom to my apple tv box in the living room. Using a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad I am able to use my mac on my livingroom tv as if I were sitting in front of it upstairs which is fantastic.
I notice that if I open up a movie in quicktime it airplays perfectly (audio and video) on my TV meaning that I dont really need to use my network drive anymore.
So I know airplay mirroring from the mac works fine with Quicktime, but what about movie formats that Quicktime wont play? Can I watch something through VLC Player with the same impressive results whilst using airplay?
I notice that if I open up a movie in quicktime it airplays perfectly (audio and video) on my TV meaning that I dont really need to use my network drive anymore.
So I know airplay mirroring from the mac works fine with Quicktime, but what about movie formats that Quicktime wont play? Can I watch something through VLC Player with the same impressive results whilst using airplay?
This is always something that intrigues me, people want a £600+ machine that will be mostly dumb and used to do the same thing a cracked ATV and decent NAS box setup will do for half the price...and you have the benefit of just using an Apple Remote and simple interface, not to mention the ability to store and backup everything to one central location and potentially have access to said info from anywhere in the world.
What's the attraction...? I mean if you already have another Mac.
Just seems like a waste of money really.
What's the attraction...? I mean if you already have another Mac.
Just seems like a waste of money really.
by the way !!
for all comments concerning that the mac mini is overkill, realize that this thread is about one aspect of what the mini is capable of... who has a ps3 and went out and brought a bluray player...only a fool...of course we r gonna use the mini for a whole lot of other things cause, guess what...thats what its made for, we only want to know the best way to get the most out of our media.
for all comments concerning that the mac mini is overkill, realize that this thread is about one aspect of what the mini is capable of... who has a ps3 and went out and brought a bluray player...only a fool...of course we r gonna use the mini for a whole lot of other things cause, guess what...thats what its made for, we only want to know the best way to get the most out of our media.
I run a Mini 2009 as media center and it delivers an awesome experience. I think my 2011 model is overkill, but the 2009 hits the sweet spot.
So instead of all previous boxes, I now have 1 screen with 1 HDMI cable and a MacMini and a 5.1 receiver (they don't sell basic 5.1 amps with DTS/DD/PCM decoding). All controlled with 1 BT keyboard.
- The 9400M delivers enough power for heavy FullHD codecs
- It still plays DVD's (yeah, I rent them!)
- It has 5 USB ports
- I use an Equinux DVB-T stick with The Tube for live TV, awesome experience with time-shift and back-in-time recording (you can record a program when you think it WAS cool).
- I run XBMC to play all media and IP content plugins
- It runs all modern browsers
- You can MAME on it pretty well
- uTorrent runs great on it
- It has optical out
So instead of all previous boxes, I now have 1 screen with 1 HDMI cable and a MacMini and a 5.1 receiver (they don't sell basic 5.1 amps with DTS/DD/PCM decoding). All controlled with 1 BT keyboard.
Bumping this thread since it feels like the most general "mac mini as media center" thread. If there is another you want to point me to please feel free to do so.
So I recently bought a 42 inch LED tv and have started pondering on buying a Mac Mini 2010 (2,66GHz processor) to use as as a media center connected through HDMI. I'll mainly stream offline content (videofiles) from connected harddrives not a NAS.
How do you think that version stacks up for the task? I've found a couple used ones on sale for 360 USD here in Sweden with the most common configuration being 4GB ram and 500GB HDD. My long term plan is to upgrade it to 16GB RAM and move my 256 GB SSD Macbook Pro drive to the mini. I've also seen a couple of Mac Mini 2007's floating around how would those fare today with maximum (4GB ram?)?
Some has said that minis in general are overkill as media centers but I really want a fail safe system that delivers both offline (can read all file formats and not only FAT32) and online. Besides media consuming I may play an occasional hour of Football Manager on the TV too...
Thoughts?
So I recently bought a 42 inch LED tv and have started pondering on buying a Mac Mini 2010 (2,66GHz processor) to use as as a media center connected through HDMI. I'll mainly stream offline content (videofiles) from connected harddrives not a NAS.
How do you think that version stacks up for the task? I've found a couple used ones on sale for 360 USD here in Sweden with the most common configuration being 4GB ram and 500GB HDD. My long term plan is to upgrade it to 16GB RAM and move my 256 GB SSD Macbook Pro drive to the mini. I've also seen a couple of Mac Mini 2007's floating around how would those fare today with maximum (4GB ram?)?
Some has said that minis in general are overkill as media centers but I really want a fail safe system that delivers both offline (can read all file formats and not only FAT32) and online. Besides media consuming I may play an occasional hour of Football Manager on the TV too...
Thoughts?
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I ended up with a new late 2012 Mac mini i7 and 1Tb fusion drive, never regretted this, plays/streams flawless in both PLEX and XBMC. Started out using XBMC on Win7, but now I've changed to PLEX( bought a PLEX pass lifetime) and can stream to all my/my family's IOS/OSX devices. When I really want to listen to the best audio/bitstream, I switch over to win7 PLEX or xbmc, because it's the only way to bitstream HD audio.Bumping this thread since it feels like the most general "mac mini as media center" thread. If there is another you want to point me to please feel free to do so.
So I recently bought a 42 inch LED tv and have started pondering on buying a Mac Mini 2010 (2,66GHz processor) to use as as a media center connected through HDMI. I'll mainly stream offline content (videofiles) from connected harddrives not a NAS.
How do you think that version stacks up for the task? I've found a couple used ones on sale for 360 USD here in Sweden with the most common configuration being 4GB ram and 500GB HDD. My long term plan is to upgrade it to 16GB RAM and move my 256 GB SSD Macbook Pro drive to the mini. I've also seen a couple of Mac Mini 2007's floating around how would those fare today with maximum (4GB ram?)?
Some has said that minis in general are overkill as media centers but I really want a fail safe system that delivers both offline (can read all file formats and not only FAT32) and online. Besides media consuming I may play an occasional hour of Football Manager on the TV too...
Thoughts?
If I were you, I wouldn't go for a Mac mini older than the 2010 you mention, just my thoughts