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Old Jan 18, 2013, 07:02 PM   #26
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Why would anyone even expect being able to play games at native resolution on such a display? Playing at 1440p is surely enough for the time being.
If you make a retina iMac, users will expect to be able to use it at full resolution, even when gaming.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 07:06 PM   #27
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http://isthisretina.com/

Per this calculator (not sure of it's validity), you'd need to sit the following distances away from the display in order for it to be "retina".

MBPr - 15 inches
iMac - 32 inches
27" 4k display - 21 inches

Right now I'm sitting 20 inches away from a 24" display, so I would agree that 4k would be about right for a 27" retina display, but it would only be ~165ppi.
In other words, all displays are Retina if you're far enough away from them. "Move farther back" will become the new "You're holding it wrong."
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 07:19 PM   #28
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If you make a retina iMac, users will expect to be able to use it at full resolution, even when gaming.
That's why the concept of resolution has to go away completely. With a HiDPI display, this concept is all but obsolete and confuses the average user. For games, it will become 'blurrier picture, better performance' vs 'sharper picture, less performance'. We already have it with printers. Apple has started to do something like this with its display settings for retina MBP ('looks like ...').
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 11:40 PM   #29
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That's why the concept of resolution has to go away completely. With a HiDPI display, this concept is all but obsolete and confuses the average user. For games, it will become 'blurrier picture, better performance' vs 'sharper picture, less performance'. We already have it with printers. Apple has started to do something like this with its display settings for retina MBP ('looks like ...').
Hear! Hear!

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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:04 AM   #30
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To add I also want digital pens so that I can draw on it and cursor eye input with speech recognition.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 09:49 AM   #31
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On a Retina display, a screen with 4K resolution (3840-by-2160) would give the same screen real-estate as the current 21.5-inch iMac (1920-by-1080) given that four pixels equals one point. This means 4K is perfect for the 21.5-inch iMac at 204ppi.

However, 4K is a step back on the 27-inch since it would give you a 1920-by-1080 usable resolution instead of the 2560-by-1440 it does now. (Of course, you could always use the display at its native resolution but that would also make everything smaller [i.e.: text].) A 5120-by-2880 resolution would give the 27-inch iMac a 218ppi.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 09:54 AM   #32
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On a Retina display, a screen with 4K resolution (3840-by-2160) would give the same screen real-estate as the current 21.5-inch iMac (1920-by-1080) given that four pixels equals one point. This means 4K is perfect for the 21.5-inch iMac at 204ppi.

However, 4K is a step back on the 27-inch since it would give you a 1920-by-1080 usable resolution instead of the 2560-by-1440 it does now. (Of course, you could always use the display at its native resolution but that would also make everything smaller [i.e.: text].) A 5120-by-2880 resolution would give the 27-inch iMac a 218ppi.
I totally agree. I think we'll see a retina iMac or retina thunderbolt display by late 2013 to 2014, but it's definately not gonna be 27'' the first time around. It's either gonna be 21.5'', or some other slightly larger size. Anyway, the latest 27'' iMac screen is really awesome, I'm not missing anything here...

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Old Jan 19, 2013, 03:59 PM   #33
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In other words, all displays are Retina if you're far enough away from them.
That is a scientific fact... the debate is always what is the normal distance from the screen... and bigger screens mean you need to sit further back...
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 04:18 PM   #34
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I want this device. Gimmeeeeeeeeeeeeee. You know, from a desktop standpoint i think Apple is behind surprisingly in the display area where they shine. I guess we will get retina eventually.

I want a touch based iMac with a swivel so i can lay it flat, i want to change the height too. And 6 core for good meausre someday....
Don't care for touch on a Mac but, bring back the swivel/adjustable G4 iMac design with a retina display at like 27"!!!!! That would be incredible.
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I want this device. Gimmeeeeeeeeeeeeee. You know, from a desktop standpoint i think Apple is behind surprisingly in the display area where they shine. I guess we will get retina eventually.

I want a touch based iMac with a swivel so i can lay it flat, i want to change the height too. And 6 core for good meausre someday....
brought the display war itself with Retina display on iPhone 4. Everybody was caught off guard, nobody was interested enough on selling and mass producing a phone with 300+ dpi display except .

Since then all competitions has been trying to catch up in display department, some has been able to surpass what Apple achieved. Nowadays I think it's going to be a point of reversal if Apple is not innovating again soon.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 09:18 PM   #36
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I'm thinking next year we will see retina display imacs. At least that is my hope.
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Old Jun 8, 2013, 11:54 AM   #37
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brought the display war itself with Retina display on iPhone 4. Everybody was caught off guard, nobody was interested enough on selling and mass producing a phone with 300+ dpi display except .

Since then all competitions has been trying to catch up in display department, some has been able to surpass what Apple achieved. Nowadays I think it's going to be a point of reversal if Apple is not innovating again soon.
Innovate and bring retina to the iMac, I say to Apple.
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Old Jun 9, 2013, 06:22 AM   #38
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The article said 20" screen; a bit to big to carry around but very nice as secondary screen of the desk or beside the bed.
Looks really nice; I would like to know the price range ...
20" that would be the iPad Maxi

I don't see a similar screen coming to the iMac until the LCD makers start producing 27" versions or maybe a bit bigger for a future iMac.

I better start saving for my next iMac, only have my 2012 five months
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Old Sep 17, 2013, 03:16 AM   #39
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so based on more 2880p wallpapers added to DP8 Maveriks , we can expect to a new displays of the 2013 imacs ?
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Old Sep 17, 2013, 04:59 AM   #40
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Anyway, the latest 27'' iMac screen is really awesome, I'm not missing anything here...
Slightly off topic I guess, but I was intrigued by this comment. In what particular way(s) would you say it's really awesome?

There's a lot of sample variation and I am very lucky that I seem to have an extremely good screen on my late 2012 iMac. But I would describe the screen as pretty darned average to be honest. I don't think it excels in any area at all, and is poor compared to high-end 27" displays such as those from NEC, Eizo and to a lesser extent Samsung.

As another example, the screen on the HP-Z1 all-in-one is VASTLY better, and that is just an bog-standard LG S-IPS panel.

I do wonder if some people have no experience of a quality display and like the 27" iMac screen simply because it is big.
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