Best SSD for Mid 2007 iMac

I just finished installing an ssd in the same iMac, it went well, not that bad of a job. I must say it is much snappier, applications open instantly and boot time is about 25 seconds from pressing the button to desktop. I used a similar ssd


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CGFU4I/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Yes, system profile reports 3Gb/s speed for the drive so SATA II seems to be working. I have not tested actual speeds though, will do that when I get home.

Sorry it took so long to post , speeds I am getting using black magic on this drive are 170MB/s up 180MB/s dl. Not quite as fast as I had hoped via sata II but it is still a huge performance boost from the original HD. I am happy with the upgrade. I would be interested to know how you make out with the OCZ.

Hi,

I stumbled upon this thread and since I am trying to do an almost identical upgrade, I thought I would jump in and ask a few questions. That being said, I believe this post confirmed the aforementioned OCZ SSD as my drive of choice. So, thank you.

I have a mid-2007 20" iMac and I believe the stock hard drive is starting to fail. I figured I would go all out and replace it with an SSD if it isn't too much trouble to do so. While I have found a few helpful walkthroughs on how to replace an iMac hard drive, I did have a few questions I was hoping to have some light shed on:

Tools aside, will I need anything else for this upgrade other than the SSD and a 3.5" mounting bracket? I have seen conflicting information on whether or not I might need a longer SATA cable for this conversion.

Secondly, do I need to format or otherwise prepare the hard drive before it is installed? Or, will the iMac simply recognize the drive and allow me to pop in the OSX discs that came with it?

Lastly, are there any recommendations on a 3.5" bracket that will fit and mount without too much fenangling?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much for the quick response and the thorough explanations!

It looks like that mounting bracket is made for MacPros, but perhaps it would still be a better bet than any other mounting bracket.

Thanks again!

peglegjack said:

As far as the 3.5" drive, I just remember in some MacRumors thread a guy using it for his iMac. Looks like it would fit to me just from recalling the amount of space in the iMac.

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Cool, I will do a bit more hunting and then probably give that bracket a shot. As far as transferring data, I was just going to do a clean install on the SSD and transfer files over from my external HD. Or maybe I could use Time Machine to make that easier. Either way, I am not worried about getting my old stuff on the SSD.

Thanks again.

Mid 2007 iMac with Fusion Drive

I just did this upgrade and wish I would have found this forum sooner. Regardless, I managed to get a Fusion Drive running with a EMC 2133 20" iMac (Mid-2007) with ML. It is not that bad at all price-wise and I feel was worth every penny of the upgrade given the performance results. My configuration involves the following:

1 - SSD (Crucial M4 - 256GB) - This can be found relatively cheap at Amazon.

2 - HDD (WD Scorpio Black 750GB) - Same place as above.

3 - I wanted the SSD as my main disk (disk0). Therefore, this piece is a perfect fit for mounting a 2.5" in the 3.5" HDD bay of the 2007 iMac - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PZDVF6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

4 - Next, the optical drive adapter - this allows your PATA optical drive to be converted into a 2.5" SATA HD/SSD adapter and was found here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064A9Y5W/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
It was not the most perfect fit but it works and it beat the 60$ some other website is asking for.

5. Finally these websites served as perfect guides that got me up and running with a brand new Fusion Drive OS in no time:

A: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2133+and+2210+Dual+Hard+Drive/8951/1 - This is for installing the second drive in the optical bay (where I put the 750GB WD SB)

B: http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html - This is how I managed to get 10.8.2 bootable onto a USB drive (now that there's no optical drive.)
NOTE: 10.8.2 is required to get Fusion Drive enabled.

C: http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html - This will be the final step before you install the OS - it guides you through creating the Fusion Drive - which worked flawlessly.

TRIM isn't necessary for the M4 SSD (it has its own garbage collection) but it also doesn't hurt to enable it. Unfortunately Apple doesn't outright support it on 3rd party SSD's so every major OS X upgrade will require a new fix. However, for 10.8.2 the TRIM enabler commands can be found here:

https://gist.github.com/clarencesong/3768688

I get the same 25 sec boot time and now waking from sleep is under 1-2 seconds! The great thing about Fusion is you get the SSD speed with the 1TB total storage - the OS handles all the transferring of data between drives in the background.

For around 300$ total this is a good deal considering my almost 6 year old iMac is still relevant and will be for at least another 4 years.

How is your performance of iPhoto with Fusion?

I have an early 2009 iMac that I upgraded this week to Fusion (WD Caviar Black 2TB + Crucial M4 256GB SSD in Optical Bay). One thing I have noticed that is somewhat puzzling is that iPhoto simply does not launch and quit as fast as it should. Often times I get the app to come up in one or two bounces then watch the spinning circle before the library is displayed. Same thing on shut down - does not instantly close but can take anywhere from 10-30 seconds.

This is with fusion enabled. My iPhoto library is about 190GB and has 44k photos. The most frustrating part is really the shut down which is instant on my wife's old 2007 Black MacBook with a 5400 RPM HDD that has 22k photos! That shuts down instantly.

Any ideas?

Jeff

icemantx said:

I have an early 2009 iMac that I upgraded this week to Fusion (WD Caviar Black 2TB + Crucial M4 256GB SSD in Optical Bay). One thing I have noticed that is somewhat puzzling is that iPhoto simply does not launch and quit as fast as it should. Often times I get the app to come up in one or two bounces then watch the spinning circle before the library is displayed. Same thing on shut down - does not instantly close but can take anywhere from 10-30 seconds.

This is with fusion enabled. My iPhoto library is about 190GB and has 44k photos. The most frustrating part is really the shut down which is instant on my wife's old 2007 Black MacBook with a 5400 RPM HDD that has 22k photos! That shuts down instantly.

Any ideas?

Jeff

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I'm not entirely sure how Fusion works but it could be splitting the storage of your iPhoto library between the SSD and HDD and then when you want to open iPhoto it could be trying to read two drives at once. If this is the case there may be a software fix in the works from Apple? Also - make sure you enable TRIM! It also doesn't hurt to make sure your SSD's firmware is up to date. I have the same SSD you have and 040H is the latest firmware revision. (you can see this in the system report through "About this Mac")

In general, it seems like the size of your library has something to do with it (190/256GB) I'm sure Fusion is moving some if not all of the library to the HDD.

amm203 said:

I just did this upgrade and wish I would have found this forum sooner. Regardless, I managed to get a Fusion Drive running with a EMC 2133 20" iMac (Mid-2007) with ML. It is not that bad at all price-wise and I feel was worth every penny of the upgrade given the performance results. My configuration involves the following:

1 - SSD (Crucial M4 - 256GB) - This can be found relatively cheap at Amazon.

2 - HDD (WD Scorpio Black 750GB) - Same place as above.

3 - I wanted the SSD as my main disk (disk0). Therefore, this piece is a perfect fit for mounting a 2.5" in the 3.5" HDD bay of the 2007 iMac - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005PZDVF6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

4 - Next, the optical drive adapter - this allows your PATA optical drive to be converted into a 2.5" SATA HD/SSD adapter and was found here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064A9Y5W/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
It was not the most perfect fit but it works and it beat the 60$ some other website is asking for.

5. Finally these websites served as perfect guides that got me up and running with a brand new Fusion Drive OS in no time:

A: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2133+and+2210+Dual+Hard+Drive/8951/1 - This is for installing the second drive in the optical bay (where I put the 750GB WD SB)

B: http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html - This is how I managed to get 10.8.2 bootable onto a USB drive (now that there's no optical drive.)
NOTE: 10.8.2 is required to get Fusion Drive enabled.

C: http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html - This will be the final step before you install the OS - it guides you through creating the Fusion Drive - which worked flawlessly.

TRIM isn't necessary for the M4 SSD (it has its own garbage collection) but it also doesn't hurt to enable it. Unfortunately Apple doesn't outright support it on 3rd party SSD's so every major OS X upgrade will require a new fix. However, for 10.8.2 the TRIM enabler commands can be found here:

https://gist.github.com/clarencesong/3768688

I get the same 25 sec boot time and now waking from sleep is under 1-2 seconds! The great thing about Fusion is you get the SSD speed with the 1TB total storage - the OS handles all the transferring of data between drives in the background.

For around 300$ total this is a good deal considering my almost 6 year old iMac is still relevant and will be for at least another 4 years.

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Hi! great project. I'm planning on doing the same. Couple of questions, why would you use fusion drive, doesn't it slow down your mac because of all the extra processes? I was thinking of doing the file management myself, running the applications and OSX from the SSD and all the less used files from the ordinary HDD.
Why did you choose this SSD? do you know the maximum speed of the SATA and your SSD? do they match?
How about the drive you put in the dvd bay? how fast is it and how fast is the connection in that bay?
could you post some test results from, for example, Blackmagic speed test?

Thanks!

icemantx said:

I have an early 2009 iMac that I upgraded this week to Fusion (WD Caviar Black 2TB + Crucial M4 256GB SSD in Optical Bay). One thing I have noticed that is somewhat puzzling is that iPhoto simply does not launch and quit as fast as it should. Often times I get the app to come up in one or two bounces then watch the spinning circle before the library is displayed. Same thing on shut down - does not instantly close but can take anywhere from 10-30 seconds.

This is with fusion enabled. My iPhoto library is about 190GB and has 44k photos. The most frustrating part is really the shut down which is instant on my wife's old 2007 Black MacBook with a 5400 RPM HDD that has 22k photos! That shuts down instantly.

Any ideas?

Jeff

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Do I understand correctly that you have the SSD installed in the optical bay? If so, that is likely the problem. You are limiting the performance of the SSD because of the PATA connector in the optical bay. To get the most performance from your SSD, you would want to have it installed in the HDD bay using the SATA interface and install the HDD in the optical bay using the PATA interface. This is based on my mid-2007 iMac, so you may want to confirm that the same limitations apply to 2009 models. Hope that helps.

staceym said:

Do I understand correctly that you have the SSD installed in the optical bay? If so, that is likely the problem. You are limiting the performance of the SSD because of the PATA connector in the optical bay. To get the most performance from your SSD, you would want to have it installed in the HDD bay using the SATA interface and install the HDD in the optical bay using the PATA interface. This is based on my mid-2007 iMac, so you may want to confirm that the same limitations apply to 2009 models. Hope that helps.

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2009+ iMacs have a SATA interface in the optical bay.

amm203 said:

.... I managed to get a Fusion Drive running with a EMC 2133 20" iMac (Mid-2007) with ML.... I feel was worth every penny of the upgrade given the performance results. ......For around 300$ total this is a good deal considering my almost 6 year old iMac is still relevant and will be for at least another 4 years.

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Great post - I've been looking for a long time for something llke this.

Is there any reason, other than cost, why you didn't fit two SSDs?

I have a question for those who replaced their Superdrive with a bracket to allow for Fusion Drive.

Is the PATA interface UDMA 5 or 6? If so your read/writes are limited to 100MB/s & 133MB/s respectively.

I only bring this up as I feel putting an SSD there would choke its potential. It would be better to put it in the original spot of the HDD that had the SATA 3Gb/s interface.

Now, storage maker WD recently introduced a newer 4TB WD Black HDD (WD4003FZEX) that do sequential read/writes at faster than 170MB/s.

Just putting it out there for those who may be interested.

For $259 4TB WD Black you can get a 480GB Crucial M500 for $291. The Crucial should be able to do sequential read/writes of 200-240MB/s.

Hexley said:

I have a question for those who replaced their Superdrive with a bracket to allow for Fusion Drive.

Is the PATA interface UDMA 5 or 6? If so your read/writes are limited to 100MB/s & 133MB/s respectively.

I only bring this up as I feel putting an SSD there would choke its potential. It would be better to put it in the original spot of the HDD that had the SATA 3Gb/s interface.

Now, storage maker WD recently introduced a newer 4TB WD Black HDD (WD4003FZEX) that do sequential read/writes at faster than 170MB/s.

Just putting it out there for those who may be interested.

For $259 4TB WD Black you can get a 480GB Crucial M500 for $291. The Crucial should be able to do sequential read/writes of 200-240MB/s.

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Hi,

I'm thinking of doing this with my inlaw's late 2007 imac. I didn't even think about using their (broken) disc drive slot for a a second hard drive. I'd be totally interested in hearing back how an SSD + HDD in the Disc slot works. Is a true Fusion Drive possible like it is in the Mac Mini?

Spare an online tutorial for an old man hard up on his time (babies are consuming ALL MY FREE TIME!)

s.

mr.steevo said:

Hi,

I'm thinking of doing this with my inlaw's late 2007 imac. I didn't even think about using their (broken) disc drive slot for a a second hard drive. I'd be totally interested in hearing back how an SSD + HDD in the Disc slot works. Is a true Fusion Drive possible like it is in the Mac Mini?

Spare an online tutorial for an old man hard up on his time (babies are consuming ALL MY FREE TIME!)

s.

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I revamped my 2007 iMac with WD 750gb HHD and a Crucial 256 SSD. Pretty straightforward following the various instructions contained in the links provided in this thread. From what I understand this setup is a true "fusion drive." I'm happy to have NOT dropped $2000-3000 on a new iMac and I'm running Yosemite on 4g of DDR2 (2x2) with no problems. 2.4 ghz core 2 duo is the processor. My fusion drive specs are below.

I say go for it!!

Macintosh HD:

Available: 721.94 GB (721,940,688,896 bytes)
Capacity: 996.85 GB (996,850,532,352 bytes)
Mount Point: /
File System: Journaled HFS+
Writable: Yes
Ignore Ownership: No
BSD Name: disk2
Volume UUID: ABDDDB8B-AB79-3A07-8262-20C5C820B4EB
Logical Volume:
Revertible: No
Encrypted: No
LV UUID: A27EBC60-163D-4BFD-A381-25AD0D6622F3
Logical Volume Group:
Name: myLogicalVolGroup
Size: 1.01 TB (1,005,013,041,152 bytes)
Free Space: 123 KB (122,880 bytes)
LVG UUID: F2133015-0266-498B-B3A0-060C26BCB325
Physical Volumes:
disk0s2:
Media Name: M4-CT256M4SSD2 Media
Size: 255.72 GB (255,716,540,416 bytes)
Medium Type: SSD
Protocol: SATA
Internal: Yes
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
Status: Online
S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
PV UUID: 0C286977-AA45-465D-9B81-6E197061669E
disk1s2:
Device Name: WDC WD7500BPKT-22PK4T0
Media Name: WDC WD7500BPKT-22PK4T0 WDC WD7500BPKT-22PK4T0
Size: 749.3 GB (749,296,500,736 bytes)
Protocol: ATA
Internal: Yes
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
Status: Online
S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
PV UUID: 14573188-DDF4-4DD7-B751-A13C1927319D

Video 2007 iMac HD upgrade - DETAILS!!!

I made this video a long time ago - and it is a terrible video - but I wanted to post it in this thread because it addresses all the exceptions I found to the online guides I used.

http://youtu.be/G1Yxq3phGv4

They were mostly small exceptions or details that are simply left out of the guides, but there were many exceptions! Some of them could be pretty helpful to know in advance if you're going to open up your iMac.

Specifically, details of pulling the glass (aquarium heater suction cups worked - the glass must come straight out, all four corners at once) and opening and closing the chassis (watch vid), but there are many other small details too.

It's been four years since posting that video (when I upgraded my HD) and I'm just now starting to think about an SSD upgrade. I've still got 320GB, so a comparable SSD is only about $100....seems like a bargain if there really is a performance boost!

Again, sorry for the video quality...the info is great, but the video really is terrible.