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Old Aug 8, 2014, 12:48 PM   #76
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psp 9!

I have read this entire thread, it is quite old, but has had posts recently.

So...I am getting ready to buy an iMac, have used psp for years, have thousands of unmerged images in .psp format as well and countless thousands of tubes, so needless to say I NEED psp on the imac (unless I want to try mass converting everything to .psd format which I understand pixelmator will open, which I do not)

I understnad there are a wealth of options for running psp/windows on an imac. which ones work the best? I am going to try WinOnX app ($4.99) and was going to try vm fusion but not sure if I have to buy windows to use it, same with parallels, plus there is crossover and winebottler and who knows what else.

I use psp9, so I would love to hear about users of that version that run it on an imac and what program you use to do it, please!

I do not want to run bootcamp, I want it intergrated into the mac, not have to shut down the computer every time I use psp and then again to use the mac as a mac.

looking forward to replies on this topic! my biggest reason for not wanting to use a different program is the quantity of images and tubes that use the .psp format...

TIA!
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Old Aug 10, 2014, 07:18 AM   #77
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Hi there qwho,

I think I can help. I run Paint Shop Pro X2 on my newly purchased iMac without problems (mostly). I use Parallels to run PSP in a window as if it was running natively on my mac. Like you I have a lot of legacy files created in PSP that I need to use. I did buy a license of Windows 7 to install on a bootcamp partition but that's because of another program I use (Inventor CAD) but mainly use Parallels to run PSP. then there's no need for switching, having to shut down & start up again.

In saying that I've been trying out the Beta of SERIF's Affinity Designer. It's a great program that's taking a bit of getting used to but it does everything PSP does. Vectors, rasters, layer styles, everything I need to create my cartoon creatures: eejits ( http://www.eejits-online.co.uk ) plus it's native for the Mac. True it's more of vector program like illustrator but it can do raster editing. They'll be releasing a photo editor and a publisher program in 2015 as well.

It's pretty awesome and there's a great support community that gets great input from the development team. They're always listening to suggestions.

Hope that helps. If there are anything you need to know let me know and I'll see if I can help. I'm new to the Mac too though!!

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Old Aug 10, 2014, 09:53 PM   #78
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Hi there qwho,

I think I can help. I run Paint Shop Pro X2 on my newly purchased iMac without problems (mostly). I use Parallels to run PSP in a window as if it was running natively on my mac. Like you I have a lot of legacy files created in PSP that I need to use. I did buy a license of Windows 7 to install on a bootcamp partition but that's because of another program I use (Inventor CAD) but mainly use Parallels to run PSP. then there's no need for switching, having to shut down & start up again.

In saying that I've been trying out the Beta of SERIF's Affinity Designer. It's a great program that's taking a bit of getting used to but it does everything PSP does. Vectors, rasters, layer styles, everything I need to create my cartoon creatures: eejits ( http://www.eejits-online.co.uk ) plus it's native for the Mac. True it's more of vector program like illustrator but it can do raster editing. They'll be releasing a photo editor and a publisher program in 2015 as well.

It's pretty awesome and there's a great support community that gets great input from the development team. They're always listening to suggestions.

Hope that helps. If there are anything you need to know let me know and I'll see if I can help. I'm new to the Mac too though!!

George
finally! a psp user with an iMac. Of course, it may not be the same since I use psp 9 and you use a much newer version....but it is a start

Lots of questions, lol. Let's see...

first I took a peek at your eejits, and I love them! I so envy you your talent! I will check out the website more.

1) why parallels and not fusion or wine bottler or crossover or a new app I want to try called WinOnX? just curious. aside from boot camp which I have no interest in, parallels is my next least favorite (which is not saying much since I have not tried any of them)

2) can you view 'tubes' and layered images on the iMac? I have tons of tubes and I make signature tags and save an unmerged copy of every one of them. was dreading thinking about converting them to photoshop (.psd)

3) what about windows fonts, can they be used in parallels? I have tons of fonts too

4) I would love to see screenshots of psp running on the iMac alongside whatever else you have open. I love the idea of being able to multi-task and go back and forth between psp and whatever else I am doing, which is why I have zero interest in boot camp.

5) does animation shop work as well? if you have/use it?

6) can I use filters/plugins?

I really only use psp as a hobby, so I mostly work with layers, filters/plugins, and that sort of thing. I have zero artistic ability, sadly. So probably no interest in SERIF's Affinity Designer at this time.

that is all my questions for now, I can't wait to hear back from you regarding any of my questions you can answer, and maybe as soon as I get my machine, we can teach each other how to survive going from pc to mac.

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Old Aug 11, 2014, 10:44 AM   #79
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Pixelmator

Jasc PSP 8 was a really great program.

Pixelmator is a substitute for PaintShopPro. It's inexpensive ($20, I think), native to Mac, and has all the features I used with PSP 8, plus a few more nice ones. The developers have done a great job of improving it over the years. There's now a brush warp tool I really like. One drawback is that the user interface is lame. There are huge areas that if you accidently click on, it takes you out of the app. It's easy to get back however with Cmd-Tab. Also, the tool pop-ups tend to cover up your work, and I end up moving them out of the way. The tool sliders are a bit too sensitive. The brush sizes seem to be limited to a few discrete choices. There is also a fair bit of learning curve if you're used to PSP.

Here's a good history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelmator

A Wacom tablet seems to work well with Pixelmator.

Pixelmator doesn't seem to handle PSP files.

It's a joy for me to avoid Adobe and Corel, Adobe being extremely expensive with terrible user interfaces, and Corel famous for its not-ready-for-prime-time software.

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Old Aug 11, 2014, 12:37 PM   #80
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The brush sizes seem to be limited to a few discrete choices. There is also a fair bit of learning curve if you're used to PSP.
Hi, just a note that you can change the brush sizes in Pixelmator a few different ways. You can use the keyboard shortcuts "[" and "]" to make the brush size smaller or larger.

Also, if you double-click on a brush in the brush palette (or click on the small gear), you can open up the brush adjustment panel. There you can either enter a numeric value in the size box or use the slider.

I have been looking at Adobe alternatives also & agree with you about Pixelmator. I began using it exclusively just to see if I could get by without Ps, about 9 months or more ago. Now I look at my old Ps from time to time and just feel "meh" & haven't any desire to go back to it. Also using Manga Studio 5/Clip Studio Pro (same) both are currently on sale for $20. I paid $79 a year ago & felt it was quite a steal at that price. I also love using iDraw & Acorn.
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Old Aug 12, 2014, 03:58 PM   #81
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Thanks Crickettgrrl

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Old Aug 13, 2014, 06:21 AM   #82
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I have read this entire thread, it is quite old, but has had posts recently.

So...I am getting ready to buy an iMac, have used psp for years, have thousands of unmerged images in .psp format as well and countless thousands of tubes, so needless to say I NEED psp on the imac (unless I want to try mass converting everything to .psd format which I understand pixelmator will open, which I do not)

I understnad there are a wealth of options for running psp/windows on an imac. which ones work the best? I am going to try WinOnX app ($4.99) and was going to try vm fusion but not sure if I have to buy windows to use it, same with parallels, plus there is crossover and winebottler and who knows what else.

I use psp9, so I would love to hear about users of that version that run it on an imac and what program you use to do it, please!

I do not want to run bootcamp, I want it intergrated into the mac, not have to shut down the computer every time I use psp and then again to use the mac as a mac.

looking forward to replies on this topic! my biggest reason for not wanting to use a different program is the quantity of images and tubes that use the .psp format...

TIA!
You really would be better off converting them to a more open format and then buying yourself Photoshop elements. To run PSP You will have to buy a copy of Windows and Parallels or VMware which is going to add up price wise and then you have the hassle of having a windows partition and booting up windows every time you want to edit an image.

Photoshop elements is a much better application than PSP and you'll be set on any platform in the future. You can batch convert all your files from within PSP so It really shouldn't take long to do them all.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 08:12 AM   #83
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I have photoshop cs3 but I much prefer psp.

And it is not necessary with many of the vm's like fusion and parallels, to boot up windows, like boot camp requires, it runs right alongside, allowing simply switching back and forth from one window to another right in the mac environment.
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Old Aug 13, 2014, 09:01 AM   #84
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I have photoshop cs3 but I much prefer psp.

And it is not necessary with many of the vm's like fusion and parallels, to boot up windows, like boot camp requires, it runs right alongside, allowing simply switching back and forth from one window to another right in the mac environment.
You still have to initially boot windows in fusion or parallels so its a nice long delay in starting up PSP the first time after starting the computer. If your set on using PSP then fine but I know from experience that its a pain relying on a windows app for something like that. Elements is also very different from CS3.

Honestly it just seems pointless buying a mac at all if your not willing to switch apps in a situation like this where there are multiple fantastic native alternatives.
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You still have to initially boot windows in fusion or parallels so its a nice long delay in starting up PSP the first time after starting the computer. If your set on using PSP then fine but I know from experience that its a pain relying on a windows app for something like that. Elements is also very different from CS3.

Honestly it just seems pointless buying a mac at all if your not willing to switch apps in a situation like this where there are multiple fantastic native alternatives.
well, I don't shut my computer down very often, and I don't mind waiting when I do.

I don't see how it is pointless buying a mac because I want to use one program on it with windows...and considering the number of vm's out there to choose from, it is obvious there are many people that feel the same way about having windows on their macs. Who knows, I may find I don't enjoy or have issues using psp in windows on the mac, and then I can learn pixelmator perhaps.

No harm in trying before I just give up on it.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 11:05 PM   #86
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Hi there qwho,

In saying that I've been trying out the Beta of SERIF's Affinity Designer. It's a great program that's taking a bit of getting used to but it does everything PSP does. Vectors, rasters, layer styles, everything I need to create my cartoon creatures: eejits ( http://www.eejits-online.co.uk ) plus it's native for the Mac.

George
Thank you sir.

I've played with this for all of 15 minutes and loving it.
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