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[AidenShaw]

Originally Posted by LagunaSol

Right. Nothing to worry about. Just keep feeding Google your data and hope for the best.

I'd rather be paranoid than naive.

And feeding all your data to Apple is better?

That sounds naïve....

[BaldiMac]

Originally Posted by AidenShaw

And feeding all your data to Apple is better?

That sounds naïve....

IMO feeding less data to Apple is better than feeding more data to Google. What's naive about that?

[Renzatic]

Originally Posted by LagunaSol

Right. Nothing to worry about. Just keep feeding Google your data and hope for the best.

I'd rather be paranoid than naive.

Jesus, man. You're like a broken record playing some obnoxious kids songs.

There's being naive, and there's not caring all that much. There's being paranoid, and there's being an idiot. Where do you fall?

I'll start being paranoid the moment Google gives me a reason to be. That moment almost came during the whole smartphone tracking scenario, which Google and Apple both were guilty of. They were slapped down fairly quickly for doing something so bone headed, and things went back to relative normalcy thereafter.

I'll tell you this, though. If Google weren't in the smartphone OS business, I doubt you'd care one half of a quarter of a crap about whether they're tracking you or not.

[subsonix]

Originally Posted by Renzatic

There's being naive, and there's not caring all that much. There's being paranoid, and there's being an idiot. Where do you fall?

False dilemma.

[uknowimright]

Originally Posted by Renzatic

Jesus, man. You're like a broken record playing some obnoxious kids songs.

There's being naive, and there's not caring all that much. There's being paranoid, and there's being an idiot. Where do you fall?

I'll start being paranoid the moment Google gives me a reason to be. That moment almost came during the whole smartphone tracking scenario, which Google and Apple both were guilty of. They were slapped down fairly quickly for doing something so bone headed, and things went back to relative normalcy thereafter.

I'll tell you this, though. If Google weren't in the smartphone OS business, I doubt you'd care one half of a quarter of a crap about whether they're tracking you or not.

probably loved all the stuff Google brought to the iPhone 1

[Renzatic]

Originally Posted by subsonix

False dilemma.

I swear, it's like some of you read a paragraph out of an argument book and now you all go around pointing out potential fallacies because you think you're all masters of logical arguments or something.

And no, that's not an ad hominem.

Also RRRRRGHGHGHGHGHG! :bashes head on desk:

[subsonix]

Originally Posted by Renzatic

I swear, it's like some of you read a paragraph out of an argument book and now you all go around point out potential fallacies because you think you're all masters of logical arguments or something.

It's not a potential fallacy, you present two alternatives and give the option to chose either one, discarding the idea that there may be a whole range of other arguments in between and so on. It's pretty clear cut, but it's funny to point it out in case someone misses it for some reason. You do not need to be any kind of master to spot this, your alternatives are a) paranoid, b) idiot. Chose one!

[Renzatic]

Originally Posted by subsonix

It's not a potential fallacy, you present two alternatives and give the option to chose either one, discarding the idea that there may be a whole range of other arguments in between and so on. It's pretty clear cut, but it's funny to point it out in case someone misses it for some reason.

You'd be right if I those were choices I was trying to present as valid to the whole argument. Instead, I was calling him out for being overly dramatic.

So ha! :P

[LagunaSol]

Originally Posted by Renzatic

I'll tell you this, though. If Google weren't in the smartphone OS business, I doubt you'd care one half of a quarter of a crap about whether they're tracking you or not.

Sure. Whatever you say.

Originally Posted by Renzatic

Jesus, man. You're like a broken record playing some obnoxious kids songs.

There's being naive, and there's not caring all that much. There's being paranoid, and there's being an idiot. Where do you fall?

And who is the one being "overly dramatic" here?

[dejo]

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