Can't alter folder/file names on 10.6.8 Xserve

jtgolfer · Apr 26, 2013

I'm a former small-town sports editor who (perhaps foolishly) agreed to become the "tech guy" at a Mac-based daily newspaper. Have survived 13 years with lots of help.

Anyway,

Recently one of the shared volumes on my 10.6.8 Xserve wouldn't let anyone move, copy, delete, change file or folder name. I jumped into the murky world of permissions, ACLs, etc., and now anyone can do anything BUT change the name of a file or a folder.

The ACL on this volume is that anyone belonging to the Group has read/write permissions. I had some other ACLs set up for users belonging to other Groups but I've deleted all of those ACLs to simplify this issue.

All the files and folders have Unknown as the user, which I find odd since I'm the user account on the server.

When a client tries to alter a file/folder name, he/she gets the "You don't have permissions" message. When I try to alter it, I'm asked to authenticate and get an error 100022 message.

Any ideas? I'm way over my head.

Thanks!

MacUser2525 · Apr 26, 2013

Perhaps the unknown comes from having deleted the other groups. First thing I would try is getting the files/folder to a known user on your machine so chown -R username:username /path/to/folder this will give the folder and ever folder/file beneath it the ownership you set. The second :username part can be a group you set to go along with the username in the first part.

Edit: To make it clearer you would use sudo in front of the command in a Terminal window just in case you did not know this.

jtgolfer · Apr 29, 2013

MacUser2525, I made that change and all folders and files now have my name as the owner and the group name of classifieds, which is the name of the group that accesses this volume.

I can alter file names, but on all folders I checked, I'm still getting the "not enough permissions" to make changes.

Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

MacUser2525 · Apr 29, 2013

Don't know much about ACL's but that makes no sense if you are in both and the folder is the same then you should be able to change. Perhaps post a ls -l /path/to/folder output on one of the folders so we can see the permissions as the OS does.

Edit: Output of the groups command at the same time would be handy as well.

talmy · Apr 29, 2013

ACLs have higher priority than the unix permissions, so probably an ACL is denying the rename (I believe that a rename requires write access to the containing folder). You can see the ACL settings with the ls -el command. ACLs can be inherited, and that can be the problem here if an ACL up higher in the folder hierarchy is denying access.

jtgolfer · Apr 29, 2013

Thanks all.

I will give those suggestions a try tomorrow.

jtgolfer · May 1, 2013

I tried the ls -l command on a folder but Terminal said it was an incorrect command.

I ran the ls -el command on the volume and got backs lot of info. I didn't copy it because I wasn't sure if I should run the command on the volume in question or a specific folder.

Let me know on the latter and I'll try again.

Thanks.

talmy · May 1, 2013

ls -l is a valid command. Maybe you somehow typed it wrong?
The ls command takes an argument of the file(s)/folders(s) you want the information about. No argument and it shows you every file in the current folder.

You can give the command "man ls" to get all the nitty-gritty details.

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

Here's the output from when I did the ls -l command on a folder located on the volume in question.

Last login: Wed May 1 09:59:12 on ttys000
myserver:~ jtfey$ ls -l /Volumes/Alpha\ Data/Classifieds/PUBLISH
total 216
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 110592 Sep 28 2010 6 column Shopper Classifieds
drwxrwxrwx+ 5 jtfey classifieds 170 May 1 13:39 Donna's Publish Folder
drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 1 09:38 Proof05-01-1309-38-20
drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 1 15:20 Proof05-01-1315-20-34
drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 2 09:29 Proof05-02-1309-28-55
drwxr-xr-x+ 4 krisfey classifieds 136 May 1 20:56 Proof05-02-201315-25-47
myserver:~ jtfey$

Thanks!

MacUser2525 · May 2, 2013

jtgolfer said:
Here's the output from when I did the ls -l command on a folder located on the volume in question.

Last login: Wed May 1 09:59:12 on ttys000
myserver:~ jtfey$ ls -l /Volumes/Alpha\ Data/Classifieds/PUBLISH
total 216
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 110592 Sep 28 2010 6 column Shopper Classifieds
drwxrwxrwx+ 5 jtfey classifieds 170 May 1 13:39 Donna's Publish Folder

These two anyone should be able to change these below only krisfey has the ability change the directory name everyone else only has read and execute rights no write so no changing.

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 1 09:38 Proof05-01-1309-38-20
drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 1 15:20 Proof05-01-1315-20-34
drwxr-xr-x+ 3 krisfey classifieds 102 May 2 09:29 Proof05-02-1309-28-55
drwxr-xr-x+ 4 krisfey classifieds 136 May 1 20:56 Proof05-02-201315-25-47
myserver:~ jtfey$

Thanks!

talmy · May 2, 2013

MacUser2525 said:
These two anyone should be able to change these below only krisfey has the ability change the directory name everyone else only has read and execute rights no write so no changing.

However the + signs mean there might be ACLs on those folders -- the OP needs to do a ls -el to display the ACLs as well.

MacUser2525 · May 2, 2013

talmy said:
However the + signs mean there might be ACLs on those folders -- the OP needs to do a ls -el to display the ACLs as well.

Oh yeah I was just talking pure unix permissions and what people should be able to do based on that alone.

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

MacUser2525 said:
These two anyone should be able to change these below only krisfey has the ability change the directory name everyone else only has read and execute rights no write so no changing.

Kris Fey (my wife, by the way) is unable to rename these folders. This is how the issue first arose. She daily changes the file names to let other people know than the contents are ready for publishing.

Les Kern · May 2, 2013

Posix won't work. Read/Write still lists the owner, and the "unknown" tag would be shown remotely accessing. Set ACL's to "full control" on the root folder and propagate.

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

Here is the first half of the output from ls -el. The command was done on Classifieds, which is the volume in question:

Last login: Thu May 2 10:00:50 on ttys000
myserver:~ jtfey$ ls -el /Volumes/Alpha\ Data/Classifieds
total 191184
drwxrwxrwx+ 5 jtfey classifieds 170 Feb 23 2011 193xto1933patch
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 45144915 Dec 2 2008 193xto1933patch.sit
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 56320 Jan 23 2008 2008 Funeral Library
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx+ 3 jtfey classifieds 102 Sep 8 2011 2009 Classifieds Billing
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 139264 Jul 23 2008 48 Funeral Library
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 351232 Jul 23 2008 48 Funerals Template
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 16609560 Apr 30 2004 AMP 4.0 Manual.pdf
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx+ 7 jtfey classifieds 238 Jun 28 2012 AMP WebWidthChange
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx@ 52 jtfey classifieds 1768 Apr 25 2012 AdManagerPro
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx@ 15 jtfey classifieds 510 Jun 9 2003 BRAINWORKS STUFF
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx+ 7 jtfey classifieds 238 Oct 6 2010 Chris Carter Classifieds
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx+ 4 jtfey classifieds 136 Oct 29 2007 ClassFlow 2.5.3.xnt
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx@ 7 jtfey classifieds 238 Oct 27 2010 Classified Templates
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrw-rw-@ 1 jtfey classifieds 970752 Jan 26 2011 Coteau 1-30-2011
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrw-rw-@ 1 jtfey classifieds 646144 Jan 26 2011 Coteau Employment 1-30-2011
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx@ 29 jtfey classifieds 986 May 2 08:53 Daily Classifieds
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx+ 137 jtfey classifieds 4658 May 30 2007 Dates in History
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 krisfey classifieds 5220974 Apr 30 19:47 Dates in History 7:01:08.rtf
0: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx@ 8 jtfey classifieds 272 Dec 19 2008 Export Samples
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx+ 4 jtfey classifieds 136 Oct 27 2008 ExportForm19x
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

The is the remaining portion of the terminal command. It was too big to post in one reply:

1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 3259825 Nov 14 2008 ExportForm19x.sit
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx+ 293 jtfey classifieds 9962 Aug 27 2012 Extensions
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx+ 7 jtfey classifieds 238 Jan 16 2009 Installer SAVE
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2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rw-rw-rw-+ 1 jtfey classifieds 32410 Nov 1 2011 Obit Policy2.pdf
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3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx+ 6 jtfey classifieds 204 May 15 2007 PGP 8.0
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3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
drwxrwxrwx@ 9 jtfey classifieds 306 May 2 09:29 PUBLISH
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3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx+ 1 jtfey classifieds 4178 Jul 30 2009 Q7 Classified Proof
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 1807204 Jun 8 2009 RecStanText.sit
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
drwxrwxrwx@ 25 jtfey classifieds 850 May 7 2009 Shopper Keep
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 145584 Feb 26 2008 StandardFlow
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 3048999 Feb 7 2008 StandardFlowPDF.hqx
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 2252577 May 12 2003 StandardWeb
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 154048 Feb 6 2007 WaterPipeTextPubNoHTML
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1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 154048 Feb 6 2007 WaterPipeTextPubNoHTML.1
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 154048 Feb 6 2007 WaterPipeTextPubNoHTML.2
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
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2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 2004356 Feb 6 2007 WaterPipeTextPubNoHTML.hqx
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 0 Jul 16 1999 Zapf Dingbats
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 jtfey classifieds 272384 Jun 8 2009 recptStanDB
0: group:classifieds allow read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
1: group:creative deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
2: group:editorial deny read,write,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
3: group:lineage deny read,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity
4: user:_spotlight allow read
5: group:classifieds inherited allow read,write,execute,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow read,write,execute,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity
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myserver:~ jtfey$

talmy · May 2, 2013

jtgolfer said:
Kris Fey (my wife, by the way) is unable to rename these folders. This is how the issue first arose. She daily changes the file names to let other people know than the contents are ready for publishing.

The only lines that matter are these:

Code:

drwxrwxrwx@ 9 jtfey classifieds 306 May 2 09:29 PUBLISH
0: group:classifieds allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,reads ecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
1: group:creative deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,reads ecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
2: group:editorial deny list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,reads ecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
3: group:lineage deny list,search,readattr,readextattr,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
4: user:_spotlight allow list,search,file_inherit,directory_inherit
5: group:classifieds inherited allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextatt r,readsecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit
6: user:_spotlight inherited allow list,add_file,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,reads ecurity,file_inherit,directory_inherit

since the problem you mention is with folder in PUBLISH.

If your wife is in the group classifieds, she should have no trouble. If she isn't but is in creative, editorial, or lineage groups she would be locked out even if it appears that she owns the folder. At least thats the way I interpret it.

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

She is in Classifieds.

And the Publish folder isn't the only one that can't be altered. Any of the folders on this volume can't be changed. I can't even alter the names when I log onto the Xserve and try.

chrfr · May 2, 2013

jtgolfer said:
She is in Classifieds.

And the Publish folder isn't the only one that can't be altered. Any of the folders on this volume can't be changed. I can't even alter the names when I log onto the Xserve and try.

Are you trying to set the permissions through Server Admin or through Terminal? If you're using Terminal, you'll likely find this a lot easier to sort out with Server Admin.

jtgolfer · May 2, 2013

No, permissions were set through Server Admin. I'm trying to figure out why no one can alter the folder names.

Can't alter folder/file names on 10.6.8 Xserve

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