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View Poll Results: Which phone has superior capabilities?
iphone has more abilities thanks to the apple ecosystem 42 41.58%
iphone has more abilities without the need of the ecosystem 13 12.87%
s3 has more abilities 35 34.65%
s3 has more abilities but no one uses them (ex. NFC) 11 10.89%
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 01:05 PM   #301
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Im using both phones, each has their advantages and disadvantages. I used iphone 5 more than s3. Like 95% and 5% usage.
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 02:04 PM   #302
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First you said...

"no android is open source as in I am running different drivers for my gpu on my gs3 and using tweaked lte modem firmware along with the fully molested rom I am running we have acces to the full kernel of the os"

But wait.. This doesn't sound good.


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Miui screwed up my gs3 so bad a few months ago.I won't chance ever running that ROM again.it wrote over my modem and GPS and put my cell in a hard roaming lock and was trying to use towers from Japan and wrote out all the baseband info for our lte we use for Verizon.

It took me like 4 hours of legit programing and I almost tossed the phone.no reset or Odin would fix it and I flashed modem firmwares and everything.

I had to go in and manually rewrite the hex with a hex editor and force write certain parts of the modem.it was a complete nightmare lol

To answer your question right now I'm on stock ota rooted touchwiz with just a few tweaks as I like the stock ROM a lot.

Even more then pure asop
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 02:10 PM   #303
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First you said...

"no android is open source as in I am running different drivers for my gpu on my gs3 and using tweaked lte modem firmware along with the fully molested rom I am running we have acces to the full kernel of the os"

But wait.. This doesn't sound good.
The ROM I tried running was never made for my phone and that's the fun about android.he asked me*if I was running a specific ROM and I told him that at the time I tried it it was a horrible port and fed my cell

I litterally flashed 3 ROMs on my gs3 in the past 2 days.right now I'm back to stock rooted and tweaked touchwiz with latest leaked modems from verizon
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 02:14 PM   #304
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The ROM I tried running was never made for my phone and that's the fun about android.he asked me*if I was running a specific ROM and I told him that at the time I tried it it was a horrible port and fed my cell

I litterally flashed 3 ROMs on my gs3 in the past 2 days.right now I'm back to stock rooted and tweaked touchwiz with latest leaked modems from verizon
Been there, done that.

Spent so much time trying to tweak my phone to absolute perfection and not enough time actually enjoying it.
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 02:44 PM   #305
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Samsung has made great strides with its hardware, but the iPhone is still the top dog.
And your reasons for that are?
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 02:57 PM   #306
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And your reasons for that are?
For me it comes down to integration, the greatness of controlling both hardware and software, with a wealth of content available. You will see more and companies adopt the Apple way of doing business because it works. They all want their own ecosystems.

Examples: Microsoft-Surface, Samsung-Tizen, and Google-Moto.
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 03:02 PM   #307
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For me it comes down to integration, the greatness of controlling both hardware and software, with a wealth of content available. You will see more and companies adopt the Apple way of doing business because it works. They all want their own ecosystems.

Examples: Microsoft-Surface, Samsung-Tizen, and Google-Moto.
Whilst I agree, I wish Apple would support more widely used technologies instead of just proprietary ones.

Apples build and software quality combined with things like DLNA would make one awesome product
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Old Mar 2, 2013, 03:12 PM   #308
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Whilst I agree, I wish Apple would support more widely used technologies instead of just proprietary ones.

Apples build and software quality combined with things like DLNA would make one awesome product
Its possible that they will in the future, but I really believe that the control over both is what gives such a great cohesive experience.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 02:42 AM   #309
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While I agree with this, it's amazing to think Samsung has gotten to a point where their phone from last May still holds its own against Apple's most recent iPhone from September. As much as I like the iPhone, I'm still excited to see what Samsung brings with the GS4. (sorry, OP, for getting a bit off topic).
I'm not surprised. Samsung is one of the few companies that can do it all themselves. They manufacture and develop
  • Integrated circuits
  • LCD panels
  • Microprocessors

and much much more. They do it all under one roof. It's a competitive advantage.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 02:45 AM   #310
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For me it comes down to integration, the greatness of controlling both hardware and software, with a wealth of content available. You will see more and companies adopt the Apple way of doing business because it works. They all want their own ecosystems.

Examples: Microsoft-Surface, Samsung-Tizen, and Google-Moto.
The same applies to Samsung as they create the handset and Touchwiz. My S3 integrates with all my media devices in my house and theres never been an app ive wanted or needed that hasnt been available.

Not to sure about your business statement, any link to back that up?

Unfortunalty, I think the day of Apple being topdog are long gone now.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 11:03 AM   #311
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cayou not see your biased answers that you wrote

you just compared wifi direct to bump Im done lol

can you bump a movie you just downloaded off a torrent to another iphone using bump lol

wifi direct is a very fast data transfer protocol that will let you send ANY file on your phone to another android device and you do not have an open file system,not even close
The key issue there is that bump involves uploading and downloading to and from a server where as wifi direct is...well, direct, and takes a fraction of the time

S-beam is brilliant btw
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 01:44 PM   #312
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The same applies to Samsung as they create the handset and Touchwiz. My S3 integrates with all my media devices in my house and theres never been an app ive wanted or needed that hasnt been available.

Not to sure about your business statement, any link to back that up?

Unfortunalty, I think the day of Apple being topdog are long gone now.
Touchwiz isn't that great. The S3 lags more between switching apps/hitting the button to switch apps than the HTC Incredible from 2010 does. Software design, Samsung should stop touching Android.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 03:15 PM   #313
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The same applies to Samsung as they create the handset and Touchwiz. My S3 integrates with all my media devices in my house and theres never been an app ive wanted or needed that hasnt been available.

Not to sure about your business statement, any link to back that up?

Unfortunalty, I think the day of Apple being topdog are long gone now.
I gave you examples of companies adopting Apple's stance in some areas. Please look it up.
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Old Mar 3, 2013, 03:42 PM   #314
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Samsung should stop touching Android.
I hope they touch it even more.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 02:50 AM   #315
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I gave you examples of companies adopting Apple's stance in some areas. Please look it up.
Not that I saw.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 04:40 AM   #316
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Thread In A Nutshell - OP is so sucked into Apple's ecosystem he is blind to anything else around him.

Stock Android >= Jailbroken iOS
Rooted Android >>>>>> Jailbroken iOS

Do you need that in simpler terms? I apologize, it just doesn't get any simpler than that.

You keep bringing up 'this can be done with a jailbreak' but seem to be completely ignoring the fact that root exists. Which, allow me to educate you, is just about a thousand times simpler than jailbreaking and yet, does a thousand times more. Root will always be available for any Android device at the time of the phone's release, and even before in some cases. Thanks to the amazing developer community, of course. How long did the last iOS jailbreak take for the new iPhone/iPad?

And you dare to bring up malware in Android. I would love to see you give one example of sort of major malware affecting anybody on Android. Malware is and was never an issue in Android.

I refuse to feed the troll anymore than I just have...

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Old Mar 4, 2013, 07:38 AM   #317
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Thread In A Nutshell - OP is so sucked into Apple's ecosystem he is blind to anything else around him.

Stock Android >= Jailbroken iOS
Rooted Android >>>>>> Jailbroken iOS

Do you need that in simpler terms? I apologize, it just doesn't get any simpler than that.

You keep bringing up 'this can be done with a jailbreak' but seem to be completely ignoring the fact that root exists. Which, allow me to educate you, is just about a thousand times simpler than jailbreaking and yet, does a thousand times more. Root will always be available for any Android device at the time of the phone's release, and even before in some cases. Thanks to the amazing developer community, of course. How long did the last iOS jailbreak take for the new iPhone/iPad?

And you dare to bring up malware in Android. I would love to see you give one example of sort of major malware affecting anybody on Android. Malware is and was never an issue in Android.

I refuse to feed the troll anymore than I just have...
Well said. Like you said malware is not an Android issue, it is a user issue.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 07:53 AM   #318
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Thread In A Nutshell - OP is so sucked into Apple's ecosystem he is blind to anything else around him.

Stock Android >= Jailbroken iOS
Rooted Android >>>>>> Jailbroken iOS

Do you need that in simpler terms? I apologize, it just doesn't get any simpler than that.

You keep bringing up 'this can be done with a jailbreak' but seem to be completely ignoring the fact that root exists. Which, allow me to educate you, is just about a thousand times simpler than jailbreaking and yet, does a thousand times more. Root will always be available for any Android device at the time of the phone's release, and even before in some cases. Thanks to the amazing developer community, of course. How long did the last iOS jailbreak take for the new iPhone/iPad?

And you dare to bring up malware in Android. I would love to see you give one example of sort of major malware affecting anybody on Android. Malware is and was never an issue in Android.

I refuse to feed the troll anymore than I just have...
Like I've said before, if you don't like the rules I based this post on, simply don't post or create your own. No need to get so upset and resort to childish name calling
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 09:12 AM   #319
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Well said. Like you said malware is not an Android issue, it is a user issue.
Nope, it is a google issue. I touched on it already.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 10:56 AM   #320
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Like I've said before, if you don't like the rules I based this post on, simply don't post or create your own. No need to get so upset and resort to childish name calling
You don't get to make any rules; sorry to inform you. You don't own this forum. You are not granted any kind of "rights" by creating a thread--especially one as ridiculous as this one is.

The fact that you think starting a thread gives you some sort of "right" to your own stupid rules is more telling than the absurdity of this thread.



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Old Mar 4, 2013, 11:41 AM   #321
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Thread In A Nutshell - OP is so sucked into Apple's ecosystem he is blind to anything else around him.

Stock Android >= Jailbroken iOS
Rooted Android >>>>>> Jailbroken iOS

Do you need that in simpler terms? I apologize, it just doesn't get any simpler than that.

You keep bringing up 'this can be done with a jailbreak' but seem to be completely ignoring the fact that root exists. Which, allow me to educate you, is just about a thousand times simpler than jailbreaking and yet, does a thousand times more. Root will always be available for any Android device at the time of the phone's release, and even before in some cases. Thanks to the amazing developer community, of course. How long did the last iOS jailbreak take for the new iPhone/iPad?

And you dare to bring up malware in Android. I would love to see you give one example of sort of major malware affecting anybody on Android. Malware is and was never an issue in Android.

I refuse to feed the troll anymore than I just have...
Best posting in this whole senseless biased thread.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 11:48 AM   #322
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Not that I saw.
Really? Wow. I will list them again for you, its clearly in one of my previous posts.

Examples: Microsoft-Surface, Samsung-Tizen, Google-Moto, and I am sure that the list goes on. Ultimately these companies want to be more in control, as this model presents a lot more profits. There are links all over that let you know that in the mobile space Apple may not have as much of the marketshare but they dwarf the others in profit share somewhere around 70%. Thanks for playing!
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 03:32 PM   #323
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You don't get to make any rules; sorry to inform you. You don't own this forum. You are not granted any kind of "rights" by creating a thread--especially one as ridiculous as this one is.

The fact that you think starting a thread gives you some sort of "right" to your own stupid rules is more telling than the absurdity of this thread.



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Oh Mikey, why so serious? It's very amusing you find this thread absurd yet you are still here.

Do you have more earth shattering input for me? Thanks for letting me know I don't own this forum...I had it up for sale on ebay. Luckily no bids or I would have been in BIG TROUBLE! :P
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 12:06 AM   #324
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Sorry, your original statement was in regards to easily sharing content, I've shown you it is easy, and I can easily add more share streams also by adding apps just like you said you could do the same by adding apps on android

Sorry, As their are apps for this when jailbreaking, I phone matches this capability

some of your responses have matched theirs " I can answer faster without looking or taking off glove." This is a feature comparison, simply post a feature and let's see if the iPhone can do it. If the phone can do it wether it's slower, faster, or limited doesn't matter, you do seem to want to stick to the original rules i keep hearing

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Sure Iphone5 can do some of the stuff that S3 can do with jailbreaking and workarounds. A physically challenged person (aka Iphone5) can finish a tri-athlon as well provided that this person has the use of special apparatus like floating device/harness/oxygen tank etc. Of course the person will finish the event when the cows come home.

Even if you can jailbreak the iphone5 that is just a small consolation for now. Apple has crushed the jailbreak with new v6.1.3 update. So jailbreak may be gone for a long time before the next one comes long. Jailbreaking is like creating a Frankenstein monster. You replace (or append) parts to the body to make it work better (i.e. dynamically inject code in the DLL via "mobile substrate"). This is usually not reliable. Run two or more cydia apps that inject code to the springboard (like Intelliscreen etc) will most likely cause instability. And it cause heavier battery use because you need backgrounder to make the apps to stay in the background. And at times backgrounded apps gets unloaded because of low RAM and you have to restart them again. Quite a lot of hassles to get the capabilities which are built-in to the framework of S3.

You can try to confuse people with your whatever rules about this comparsion match but ultimately it is still a functionality challenged iphone5 vs full-featured smarphone S3 in a race. If you are happy with the iphone5 so be it.
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