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Old Apr 24, 2013, 03:19 PM   #376
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Yup I'm praying. If it ends up being a sweet machine, it would be great to run it as a home server and then I can remote into it from Macbook Air to get the perfect combination of power and portability.

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Old May 2, 2013, 12:09 PM   #377
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Actually, it is.

Asus's solution uses a loopback cable that plugs into the discrete GPU on one end, and the Thunderbolt card on the other. The Thunderbolt card "captures" the DisplayPort data and routes it through the TB port.

Apple is unlikely to go for such a crude solution.

That leaves three choices:

1) Make a Mac Pro that has an upgradable GPU on an MXM carrier (like the older iMacs), but doesn't support running a discrete PCI-e GPU over Thunderbolt

2) Make a Mac Pro that has the GPU soldered onto the logic board, but once again doesn't support running a discrete PCI-e GPU over Thunderbolt

3) Make a custom GPU PCB (similar to the AGP video cards that supported ADC, they had an extra edge connector for the monitor data) that has the DisplayPort output on the PCB itself, and routes into a proprietary connector on the logic board

TB is not compatible with the "idea" Mac Pro. It is for integrated systems. The Mac Pro has PCI-e slots. It does not need Thunderbolt (tough **** if you bought a TB monitor and now you can't use it). By forcing Thunderbolt into the Mac Pro, you effectively limit the expansion capabilities of the machine in one or more ways.

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folks have been saying this since at least last year.
Thing is, I don't think such a technical hurdle will get in the way of Apple + Intel if they decide they need to implement TB with discrete GPU on a PCIe card.

Of course Intel would love everyone to only use their graphic solutions (and stop spending money on anything by Nvidia and AMD). But they also love to showcase their technology with partners like Apple.
That said, with Apples current obssesion with form over function and ever smaller form factors, I wouldn't be surprised to see a high performance integrated GPU on the MB with some kind of CPU style cooling solution.
Maybe they will leave a few PCIe x8 and x4 slots for expansion, but no dedicated graphics slot.

However that would kind of go against the GPGPU trend that we have been hearing about for a couple years now. I know my C4D users can't shut up about it.
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Old May 6, 2013, 01:40 AM   #378
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That said, with Apples current obssesion with form over function and ever smaller form factors, I wouldn't be surprised to see a high performance integrated GPU on the MB with some kind of CPU style cooling solution.
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However that would kind of go against the GPGPU trend that we have been hearing about for a couple years now. I know my C4D users can't shut up about it.
Soon you can have the GPU over Thunderbolt - as well as your boot drive, media drive, and Time Machine backup.

Way down the road, it will all be integrated into one neat box called a computer.

Then they will break it up again... but not until ports become fast enough!

It's an exciting time.
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Old May 6, 2013, 05:43 AM   #379
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So..its May.
June will disappoint us with still nothing at WWDC?
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Old May 6, 2013, 07:28 AM   #380
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I guess we missed the April deadline, and soon May will be over...?

I can not believe they are stringing their customers along and have really been since 2010, C'Mon bring out a new MP guys, we are all waiting for one, and I refuse to buy a current model or refurb because it is a waste of money.
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Old May 6, 2013, 09:11 AM   #381
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I guess we missed the April deadline, and soon May will be over...?
The beginning of the news story says it all. I don't think anyone considered April or May a "deadline" based on this story.

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MacDailyNews, which does not have much of a track record on rumors, says one of its sources said Apple will announce a replacement to the Mac Pro at some point in the next several months.
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Old May 6, 2013, 09:56 PM   #382
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So..its May.
June will disappoint us with still nothing at WWDC?
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I guess we missed the April deadline, and soon May will be over...?

I can not believe they are stringing their customers along and have really been since 2010, C'Mon bring out a new MP guys, we are all waiting for one, and I refuse to buy a current model or refurb because it is a waste of money.
I was going to say that "we're running out of time on this rumour". Now I don't need to....
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Old May 7, 2013, 12:34 AM   #383
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Didn't Mr. Cook basically negate this rumor by saying Apple wasn't releasing anything new until fall? Seems like a idiotic thing for Apple to lump all new releases into the last two quarters of the year, but that's what I understood him to say. They did this last year and the stock has already suffered, but maybe that's just my take
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Old May 7, 2013, 09:43 AM   #384
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He didn't say that, he said there would be "really great stuff" coming in the fall. That's vague, some people have interpreted it as nothing new until fall. I think it's more likely we'll see spec bumps on products before then, just not any new product lines or new form factors until fall and beyond. And I think he realizes that even a major update to the MP wouldn't be particularly newsworthy, it may happen in the next few months (although based on Intel's schedule, later may be more likely) but isn't something they're going to hype.
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Old May 9, 2013, 01:29 PM   #385
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I heard from an unproven, unreliable source that Apple will be releasing something in the next undetermined length of time. It may or may not be a Mac Pro. It may be an ice cream maker, or a hot dog roasting stick with biometric security protection.

And this is considered "news"... ?
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Old May 11, 2013, 07:16 AM   #386
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I heard from an unproven, unreliable source that Apple will be releasing something in the next undetermined length of time. It may or may not be a Mac Pro. It may be an ice cream maker, or a hot dog roasting stick with biometric security protection.

And this is considered "news"... ?
Yeah. Enough rumors already.
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Old May 22, 2013, 12:00 PM   #387
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Revolutionary Fan Blades?

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It will feature all new and revolutionary fan blades that meet European regulations.
Aren't ALL fan blades "revolutionary"

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