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Old Apr 23, 2015, 06:34 AM   #376
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It is not a matter of trusting Vladimir at all (I do, but that is irrelevant). If you allow one unsigned driver you allow every unsigned driver.

And if you don't understand this then yes, I do think you are wrong.
Well, that is not exactly the case. You are disabling the enforcement of drivers to be signed. However, every single time you try to install an unsigned/untrusted driver you will be alerted by a big, red box where you can abort such installation, so I would say it is not that risky. You can always disable such enforcement and reject every single unknown driver installation except for TrackPad++, and nothing else will be installed. You are not consenting to installing every driver any program wants to install, you are only telling windows: "Do not automatically reject unsigned driver installations", so you will be prompted on every single unsigned driver. Once you have installed Trackpad++ you can start rejecting any other driver installation window that pops up, which is not common though, I have not had any software trying to install any driver on my Bootcamp partition.

I'd say that it is, as long as you trust Vladimir and act carefully after enabling test signing, as secure as having it disabled
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 06:58 AM   #377
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Well, that is not exactly the case. You are disabling the enforcement of drivers to be signed. However, every single time you try to install an unsigned/untrusted driver you will be alerted
Perhaps I was wrong. I thought disabling signature verification let any driver be loaded at boot time (nothing to do with installation).

It is a shame you can't self-certify things on Windows like you can on OSX. But you can't (AFAIK). It costs (at least) $500 pa.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 07:01 AM   #378
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Perhaps I was wrong. I thought disabling signature verification let any driver be loaded at boot time (nothing to do with installation).

It is a shame you can't self-certify things on Windows like you can on OSX. But you can't (AFAIK). It costs (at least) $500 pa.
It allows you to install any driver, but when you try to install it you will get a warning, and you will get a warning every time you install a new unsigned driver, and you can always cancel driver installation individually, so you can install Trackpad++ and reject any other driver installation from there onwards.

Yes, that's a shame! I guess it's mostly because of economic reasons, maybe you can create a (fake) CA and install it on windows and sign it using that fake CA? It probably won't work as I guess it has to be signed by an authority that is trusted by Microsoft, but it might work
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 07:09 AM   #379
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It probably won't work as I guess it has to be signed by an authority that is trusted by Microsoft, but it might work
That is what you have to pay for ($500+ a year). On OSX you can self-sign your own things (eg if you change a .app after deleting all the foreign languages for example). On windows you can't (as far as I know).

My problem is on Windows it is all or nothing. Anyway, I am distracting from this thread, I only meant to say it was something to consider, that is all.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:23 AM   #380
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@ALL: The email feedback about the latest beta version was strictly positive, so it has been released today officially, as Trackpad++ 3.1a (stable), with almost no changes since the last beta. Just to remind, here are the main new features of the new version:
- Force Touch trackpad of the Early-2015 Macbooks supported;
- Most of the new Windows 10 Technical Preview features supported.
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Old Apr 28, 2015, 01:26 AM   #381
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@ALL: The email feedback about the latest beta version was strictly positive, so it has been released today officially, as Trackpad++ 3.1a (stable), with almost no changes since the last beta. Just to remind, here are the main new features of the new version:
- Force Touch trackpad of the Early-2015 Macbooks supported;
- Most of the new Windows 10 Technical Preview features supported.

Thanks for this release! Two questions for you:
1) I'm using this on a late 2014 MBP 13" running Windows 7 in Boot Camp. Every time I install this, the settings are reset and I have to put them back to what I like. Is that supposed to happen?
2) Whenever I install, the notification area shows all icons, and I have to go to the start menu and hide them again. Also supposed to happen?

I was having some issues with trackpad input while typing with the previous version, but it looks like 3.1a has a slightly longer wait time before the trackpad works again.
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Old Apr 28, 2015, 10:45 AM   #382
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Thanks for this release! Two questions for you:
1) I'm using this on a late 2014 MBP 13" running Windows 7 in Boot Camp. Every time I install this, the settings are reset and I have to put them back to what I like. Is that supposed to happen?
2) Whenever I install, the notification area shows all icons, and I have to go to the start menu and hide them again. Also supposed to happen?

I was having some issues with trackpad input while typing with the previous version, but it looks like 3.1a has a slightly longer wait time before the trackpad works again.
I'm having the same problem as you with the icons showing again. I recommend you donate so that you don't have to reinstall , but apart from that, I assume it's the way TPP is made.

What I just cannot understand is why the installer sets all the icons on the notification area (systray) to show every time you install it... Why should it do that? It also happened on my computer, but I do not get the reason why Vladimir would want it to be that way
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Old Apr 29, 2015, 01:59 AM   #383
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@calkenneth: Correct, as of today the Trackpad++ settings aren't kept after each upgrade. In one of the next versions I'll start providing the 'keep settings' checkbox option during install.
@vagaerg: Endless times I've been receiving emails with questions such as 'I start the program and nothing happens'. Since Trackpad++, and especially Power Plan's UIs are much concentrated around their tray icons, and the number of people who are so new to Windows exceeded any of my estimations, the decision was taken to make all the tray icons visible. People with skills can set this back in 5 seconds, while so many people who do not know what is tray can see the icons now.
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Old Apr 29, 2015, 04:56 AM   #384
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Question Exit trackpad++ when plugging macbook in?

Hi vladimir,

I started using your driver about a week ago, and I must say I absolutely love it. Now, I noticed that it also affects tracking speed for my USB mouse. I found that when I right clicked on the tray icon and clicked on exit the tracking for the mouse went back to normal. I only really use the trackpad when I have my macbook unplugged, so I had the brilliant idea to automatically exit trackpad++ when I plug it in, and to automatically start it back up again when I unplug it. The starting back up part I already have working with the help of Power Plan Assistant. I have it set to switch to balanced power mode when I unplug it, and to start up "Trackpad++ Control Module.exe" when switching to balanced mode. Now all I need is a way for it to properly exit trackpad++ when switching to the high performance power plan. I tried writing a very small batch file that kills the process "Trackpad++ Control Module Process.exe", and found that it doesn't fully reset the settings the way it does when exiting it from the tray icon. Is there any way to make it so that it properly exits trackpad++ when plugging my macbook in?

Thanks for your help and sorry for the wall of text.
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Old Apr 29, 2015, 05:42 AM   #385
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@calkenneth: Correct, as of today the Trackpad++ settings aren't kept after each upgrade. In one of the next versions I'll start providing the 'keep settings' checkbox option during install.
Thanks for the response - that would be a great little feature!
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Old Apr 30, 2015, 02:08 PM   #386
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@GalaxyMaster2: Hi, sorry, but such scenario is very exotic and is supported nowhere in the code... Killing the process is the bad idea. Other ways to properly exit the Trackpad++ Control Module (except of from the context menu of tray icon) are not available.
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Old Yesterday, 04:13 AM   #387
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Hi - me again. A small request - when the driver is done being installed it would be great if the reboot is done AFTER an user prompt. Right now it forces a reboot past all other dialog boxes such as whether u want to save unsaved changes in Excel or other apps. I completely understand why we need to do the reboot - and I'm sure users might wonder why things don't work without the reboot - but I think it could be done more "gently" if you know what I mean :-)
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Old Yesterday, 07:59 AM   #388
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@calkenneth: Thank you. Actually, this is the very important topic, it was discussed in the past, I even have a screen shot collage from the old pages of the forum: http://powerplan7.com/warnings.jpg So the user is warned several times about the reboot. As for the true reason of such post-install reboot, many people would not like it. But alright, I'll tell: trackpad input might stop working after driver update and until reboot. So the reboot is absolutely necessary, it isn't something optional. Yes, would be optimal to put one more warning, like 'click OK to reboot right now', but you should be able to click it Whereas the automatic procedure itself is very reliable, and not only according to my internal testing results. More importantly, there have been zero issues reported during all 2014 and now almost half of 2015.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 AM   #389
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Trackpad++: Alternate Trackpad Driver for BootCamp

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@calkenneth: Yes, would be optimal to put one more warning, like 'click OK to reboot right now', but you should be able to click it


Yes, that's all I am suggesting! :-)

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