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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:58 PM   #51
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Apple and Samsung are suing each other???
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 01:20 PM   #52
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And today, with patents, innovation stops because everyone is afraid of getting hit by a patent lawsuit and not being able to afford to defend themselves.
So because of patents, no one is innovating today. That's what you're saying. Right?

I'd be more afraid to innovate if I knew some Korean kitchen appliance conglomerate would just clone my non-patented innovation, leaving me with zero marketability and zero recourse.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 01:24 PM   #53
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So because of patents, no one is innovating today. That's what you're saying. Right?
Apple was sued for a camera phone patent just the other day.

Course they can afford it. They have billions in the bank, and can weather a drawn out legal battle, much like any of the larger corporation.

But what about the little guys with big ideas? They won't be able to do anything worthwhile, because they moment they become a threat, one of the big corporations will drop the hammer and sue them over some obscure software patent buried deep within the system.

They won't be able to fight it, so they'll have no other choice but to pay out the nose for some innocuous bit of common sense nothing, or give up the rights to their idea.

...and thus innovation dies.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 01:35 PM   #54
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 02:00 PM   #55
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What I find funny is that MR posts this but does not post THIS
True. That puts Apple in a bad light though, and I can understand if MRs won't post it. Besides, folks will spin whatever notions in their head to make it seem like it's not that big of a deal.

in the end, Samsung blatantly ripped Apple off with the Galaxy Tab and the first Galaxy phones. The second generations where totally different, and now with the Note 2 and the GS3 they are night and day.

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Can you give me some examples of companies Apple ripped off. Always like reading up about this stuff.

Also it's much harder to keep things "quiet" these days with the internet. It's the world we live in. Besides surely if a company feels they've been ripped off by apple it's their duty to report it to the relevant authorities?

I'm pretty sure you've been blinded by the media because as far as I remember lawsuits have been going on in the tech world since way back in the day.
I wouldn't say blinded by the media, but I agree with you and another poster, no one cared as much back then because there were no ratings or hits tied to it.

The most recent I can remember is the iOS 6 clock:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...-clock-design/

And the earliest that comes to mind is the concept of the GUI:

http://www.theoligarch.com/microsoft...le_history.htm

There are a few others sprinkled between, the notification system from Android is still one of my favorites. It showed that Apple can take someone's concept and make it better. Although, Google did fire back and make the NC in 4.0 do just about everything three different apps in iOS can do.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 02:11 PM   #56
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So because of patents, no one is innovating today. That's what you're saying. Right?

I'd be more afraid to innovate if I knew some Korean kitchen appliance conglomerate would just clone my non-patented innovation, leaving me with zero marketability and zero recourse.
So Samsung is just a korean kitchen appliance conglomerate. Is that right?

Wow.

I doubt you'll respond since I believe you have me on ignore. The truth is too painful of a pill to take since you refuse to see your posts contradicted.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:28 PM   #57
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Apple was sued for a camera phone patent just the other day.

Course they can afford it. They have billions in the bank, and can weather a drawn out legal battle, much like any of the larger corporation.

But what about the little guys with big ideas? They won't be able to do anything worthwhile, because they moment they become a threat, one of the big corporations will drop the hammer and sue them over some obscure software patent buried deep within the system.

They won't be able to fight it, so they'll have no other choice but to pay out the nose for some innocuous bit of common sense nothing, or give up the rights to their idea.

...and thus innovation dies.
Or if he hasn't patented the idea some conglomerate will quickly clone it and market it and the poor innovator will get dung for his brilliant idea and effort... Since they won't be able to fight they will have no other choice than to roll over and die...
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:32 PM   #58
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Today: Samsung drop demands for Apple products to be removed from sale.
Tomorrow: Apple drop all lawsuits against Samsung.
Thursday: All tech companies drop all lawsuits, choosing instead to hold hands and sing songs.
Friday: Peace and love spread throughout the world, weapons are destroyed, families reunited, prisoners released and the rich feed the poor...
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:36 PM   #59
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What I find funny is that MR posts this but does not post THIS
True, but my favorite line from that is this one:

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At the same time, the judge also rejected Samsung's call for a new trial because of alleged juror misconduct.
That was Samsung's most ridiculous claim, and one I've seen repeated here far too often.

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Old Dec 18, 2012, 03:54 PM   #60
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Makes you wonder if Samsung has stepped back a bit and thought that maybe going too aggressive with patent suits, that it should calm things a little and let apple make the next move?

These big patent battles are not doing either company any favours.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:02 PM   #61
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Next week we will all be GONE! ... end of the World coming this week ... or, haven't you heard yet ....
So instead of being a fanboy 4ever, you will only be one till the end of the week?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 04:16 PM   #62
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Today: Samsung drop demands for Apple products to be removed from sale.
Tomorrow: Apple drop all lawsuits against Samsung.
Thursday: All tech companies drop all lawsuits, choosing instead to hold hands and sing songs.
Friday: Peace and love spread throughout the world, weapons are destroyed, families reunited, prisoners released and the rich feed the poor...
You forgot the last part..

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