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Old May 7, 2013, 09:41 PM   #1
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Transfering files from imac over to new Windows PC

Ok so I recently upgraded to a much better computer than my imac, but the problem I have is that I have some video files that I have to move from the imac to the pc every week. The issue is that when I put them on an external drive it trys to re-format it and erase all the files once plugged into the pc


how can I move the files?
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Old May 7, 2013, 09:48 PM   #2
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If you keep the external drive Fat32 then it should be readable on both machines.
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Old May 7, 2013, 09:56 PM   #3
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It means your external drive is formatted with OS X Filesystem (HFS+), so windows cannot (by default) read it and hence it gets recognized as corrupt or unformatted.

You have two choices:
1. If you are using this external more on the Pc than on the iMac (which I assume to be the logical thing), then you are better off formatting the external to NTFS (what windows can read by default) and getting something to write to NTFS drives (OS X can only read by default) on OS X, like Tuxera-NTFS. I don't know of free products that are currently supported in say, Lion or ML (not that I have searched for them anyway, don't have an use), but you could search around. I believe there was a way to write NTFS natively on OS X, but it was unstable and don't know if it will work on latest versions of OS X.

2. If you are using this external more on the iMac than on the PC (which I assume to be illogical, as you kinda say you bought this PC to replace the iMac), then you'd do exactly as (1) but backwards. That is, you'd format the drive HFS+ (well, don't need to, as you currently have it that way), and then get a HFS+ reader/writer for Windows, like MacDrive, or the reader-only HFSExplorer (with the latter you wouldn't be able to write files on Windows to the external).

Now, leaving that aside, it's hard to maybe help you out with a better alternative, as you don't mention too much, but if I assume correctly, you're just using the external as a "bridge"? In that case there are better options, like file transferring software via LAN, or even something like Dropbox, to get the files across without intermediaries.

I personally wouldn't recommend FAT32 as Big Dave suggests, because you are dealing with video files, and FAT32 has a 4 GB limit per file, that can be annoying.
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It means your external drive is formatted with OS X Filesystem (HFS+), so windows cannot (by default) read it and hence it gets recognized as corrupt or unformatted.

You have two choices:
1. If you are using this external more on the Pc than on the iMac (which I assume to be the logical thing), then you are better off formatting the external to NTFS (what windows can read by default) and getting something to write to NTFS drives (OS X can only read by default) on OS X, like Tuxera-NTFS. I don't know of free products that are currently supported in say, Lion or ML (not that I have searched for them anyway, don't have an use), but you could search around. I believe there was a way to write NTFS natively on OS X, but it was unstable and don't know if it will work on latest versions of OS X.

2. If you are using this external more on the iMac than on the PC (which I assume to be illogical, as you kinda say you bought this PC to replace the iMac), then you'd do exactly as (1) but backwards. That is, you'd format the drive HFS+ (well, don't need to, as you currently have it that way), and then get a HFS+ reader/writer for Windows, like MacDrive, or the reader-only HFSExplorer (with the latter you wouldn't be able to write files on Windows to the external).

Now, leaving that aside, it's hard to maybe help you out with a better alternative, as you don't mention too much, but if I assume correctly, you're just using the external as a "bridge"? In that case there are better options, like file transferring software via LAN, or even something like Dropbox, to get the files across without intermediaries.

I personally wouldn't recommend FAT32 as Big Dave suggests, because you are dealing with video files, and FAT32 has a 4 GB limit per file, that can be annoying.

Explain this dropbox you speak of
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I personally wouldn't recommend FAT32 as Big Dave suggests, because you are dealing with video files, and FAT32 has a 4 GB limit per file, that can be annoying.
My bad. You are right. If the files are large then NTFS is better. In fact, a better solution would be to connect the two computers via Ethernet. The transfer would be much faster.

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My bad. You are right. If the files are large then NFS is better. In fact, a better solution would be to connect the two computers via Ethernet. The transfer would be much faster.
No it's actually my bad, because it's the painless and most effective solution (using the current workflow), but I stopped using FAT32 years ago so I forget

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Explain this dropbox you speak of
Dropbox is a cloud service where you store files in "the cloud" (their internet servers) and then once you copy a file to your dropbox "folder, it gets uploaded (to the cloud) and later on it will sync (download) on other devices (Mac, PC, Linux, Smartphone), automagically. But it has the drawback that, if your internet connection is not fast enough (slow) then the upload+download can take a lot longer than just copying the files across. And if your video files are too big then you might even hit dropbox free account size limit (3 GB? can't remember), unless you "upgrade" to a premium account.
Maybe not the best solution.

I think Big Dave's idea of transferring via an Ethernet cable (provided the PC and iMac are in the same house/room) would work best, fast and easy, once you get the hang of it.
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No it's actually my bad, because it's the painless and most effective solution (using the current workflow), but I stopped using FAT32 years ago so I forget


Dropbox is a cloud service where you store files in "the cloud" (their internet servers) and then once you copy a file to your dropbox "folder, it gets uploaded (to the cloud) and later on it will sync (download) on other devices (Mac, PC, Linux, Smartphone), automagically. But it has the drawback that, if your internet connection is not fast enough (slow) then the upload+download can take a lot longer than just copying the files across. And if your video files are too big then you might even hit dropbox free account size limit (3 GB? can't remember), unless you "upgrade" to a premium account.
Maybe not the best solution.

I think Big Dave's idea of transferring via an Ethernet cable (provided the PC and iMac are in the same house/room) would work best, fast and easy, once you get the hang of it.
The ethernet port on the imac is dead, and each file is 8 gigs.
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The ethernet port on the imac is dead, and each file is 8 gigs.
If you still wanna keep on using the external, then you can
1. Do as I said on (1)
2. Do as I said on (2)
3. Do as Big Dave said (format to FAT32), but then be aware you'd need to split the files before transfer (or split to the external, then join on Windows at copy time). This can be cumbersome.

If you are ready to ditch the external from the middle of the equation, then you can turn on file sharing on windows and then access those folders on the iMac (apparently it's automatic on OS X to discover those shared Windows folders, but I never tried myself), then transfer via Wi-Fi.
If for some reason you would be against enabling sharing on the PC, then you can use something like FileDrop, or Transfer-On-LAN.
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If you still wanna keep on using the external, then you can
1. Do as I said on (1)
2. Do as I said on (2)
3. Do as Big Dave said (format to FAT32), but then be aware you'd need to split the files before transfer (or split to the external, then join on Windows at copy time). This can be cumbersome.

If you are ready to ditch the external from the middle of the equation, then you can turn on file sharing on windows and then access those folders on the iMac (apparently it's automatic on OS X to discover those shared Windows folders, but I never tried myself), then transfer via Wi-Fi.
If for some reason you would be against enabling sharing on the PC, then you can use something like FileDrop, or Transfer-On-LAN.
thank you, I now have got it figured out thanks to you
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Old May 9, 2013, 11:52 AM   #10
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You can also format the drive as exFAT.

This format is supported by both Mac and Windows, and does not have the file size limitation of Fat32.

Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities) will be able to format the drive as exFAT as one of the options.
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Old May 10, 2013, 02:35 PM   #11
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Ok so now I have the footage importing over firewire 400 from the Gl1 and Xl1 onto the imac and then transferring that footage over Wi-Fi then a 50 foot Ethernet patch cable to the Pentium d pc slave workstation and then to a small 5tb raid server assembley over usb 2.0 for storage until it can be edited and export from the main video editing workstation.


it says it will take 8 hours to transfer over 58 gigs thou
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