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Old Feb 1, 2013, 01:02 PM   #51
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I see a lot of people here who have offered lots of different and potentially very helpful ideas, and yet I still see you whining and complaining the same as you were when you first started this thread. Your options are as follows: 1. Contact a certified Apple repair technician in your area, 2. Use ifixit.com (great website by the way) to tear it down yourself, and clean w/ cotton swabs and rubbing alcohol. 3. Sell it on eBay and let someone else do the repair work and make a dollar for their hard labor. or 4. Continue whining about how you messed up, and everyone wont help you and how your life just completely and totally sucks because you might have to switch back to PC. First world problems friend. Suck it up buttercup and pick one of those 4.
Rough, really rough, equally the man does have a valid point. If you don't have the skill`s to fix/clean the computer yourself, then you must source someone who can, pay Apple, or write off the the loss, these are the options and sadly they are very limited.

I use Rain Designs Mstands for all my Mac`s, with Apple`s Bluetooth keyboard and track pad, if something is spilled, or one of my little one`s has an accident it`s an inconvenience not a drama. Yes it`s an additional cost, yet compared to the price of the Retina, the software and most importantly the data, it`s insignificant. When I use one as a portable i am very conscious of where i place it, sorry the breakfast table would not be first on the list.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 07:06 PM   #52
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Fact is, no apple store wants to do anything to help.

So, I'm using it for now, seeing what happens.
RULE number 1 -
No liquids at the same plane as electronics.
Get a riser device to keep it above the surface.

1) should have never been fired up still covered/filled with juice -
not having time to do it right - is costly.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...0&postcount=33
That post is your only choice -

- battery removed -
Inspect this zone as well - flood scrub it clean.

Get out the paint brushes -
trim them with scissors to make them stiffer per choice to
get soapy warm water scrubbed around keys.

Flood with water with unit on its edge.

Everyone knows - water with a drop of soap -
makes water wetter - try washing your hands w/o it.

Keep applying - till key actions feels normal.
Do Not lay it flat. Leaning 45 - maybe.

Place thick towels under it's edge too keep water in check.
What ever edge has the best draining option to vent out.


Force dry - baked as described in post - making a small baking zone with heater - not the hairdryer.
Use taken apart box to contain/ corral / bathe it all in heat.

Electronics are mfg by baking - not in some wet grow pot.
Common sense in this area is totally out of whack.

There are thousands of connections on circuit boards - covered with modules.
It needs to be baked dry as quick as possible.
It's not a wet tennis shoe - in the sun.

Blanket the heat zone evenly so it flows around entire laptop -
keep the hinge point raised about an inch for even flow -
This is with screen open 90 degrees to keys.

Use hand near laptop to judge temp aimed at it.
It should not burn the hand to keep it there. That's about 160 - 180F air temp.

Let device come to room temperature on it's own after a few hours of baking -
4hrs minimum - it should be good to go.
Never dry flat - Never.


Spill on electronics -
and not make any attempt to remove that substance by flooding with water is simply insane -
It's already wet.

Letting substance coat any of it and the inside - then let it rot -
Electronics staying wet for hours / days -
vs minutes - sealed up wet corrodes everything.
I repeat - Whacked - by some magic going to be Ok = Not.


Might as well take a bunch of screws - some AA's -
put in a plastic bag - not sealed at zip - spill anything in it -
and wait a few days in the Sun to see the new experiment come to life.
Good luck with that nonsense.


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I would NOT use a heater or a blow dryer to try force the water out quicker.
You will end up evaporating the water into steam which I believe would cause more corrosion.


Wrong - moderate heat (150F-200) bakes it bone dry - within less than a couple hours.
The source of water is no longer there.

It's surface water - not 8" of bath water in bath room.
The fact the mirror is fogged - it's colder than the air.
Heated mirror - it would be clear.


Adding Iso-Alcohol to water is not a bad idea.
Flooding out the zone is critical. Then quickly baked dry.
Never dry flat - Never.


Keep animals off the electronics -
No reason for hair wound up around keys as if a warming bed for them. It's not a cute cat toy.
It's simply disgusting working on them.

I'd charge 200 extra if full of hair.

Should be good as New.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 08:54 PM   #53
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hmm alot of the apple store employees that I have seen have been pretty cool. not snobs at all or even preppy for that matter. some have some really sweet tattoos. I have not seen any discrimination to their employees or their customers near me.

I just went through my own spill incident not to long ago. My laptop was on the bed and the desk was next to the bed. still not 100% sure what happened but a glass of fruit punch on the desk fell over sideways and dumped on my bed and laptop. however i got lucky and the laptop was closed so it just got on the lid not inside.

The best way to clean would be to remove the top case. this isnt easy. once everything is ok again i would get one of those rubber keyboard covers to prevent it from happening again.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 09:05 PM   #54
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i would get one of those rubber keyboard covers to prevent it from happening again.
They are Ok with Screen Open - but Apple will confirm the same as I did -
The rubber impressions will mark the screen if it's the non glare type when closed.

The gap is too tight.
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Old Feb 8, 2013, 05:44 AM   #56
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Once I found an apple keyboard which was dirty and had cola on it with sticky keys. I managed to clean it by remove the keys and use tops and soap. If it is the same type of keys on the macbook then it is an easy job to clean it.
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Old Feb 8, 2013, 06:18 AM   #57
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My one attempt to clean a macbook keyboard by removing the keytops resulted in it being an ex-keyboard, so I'd not call it 'easy' - they tend to come off but never go back on again.

IIRC you can get entire replacement keyboard for not too much if you want to repair - I gave up and relegated said macbook to be a server, which it's still doing to this day.
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Old Feb 8, 2013, 07:50 PM   #58
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I've tried to remove every piece of yellow dried up juice and every tiiiny piece of orange "meat" etc.

See, this is why I only drink pulp-free. Orange pulp is a death sentence for MacBooks!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 09:13 PM   #59
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If I were you, I would take it to Apple to get it examined and have them make sure nothing is going to happen with it that could be harmful.
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I'd like to know how he got hair UNDER the keys. That would be close to impossible. Eyew!!! Gross!!!
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