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Old Feb 4, 2013, 03:43 PM   #1
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iPad almost bricked 6.1

How can it be almost bricked you ask? Well twitchy, random touchscreen events Triggering apps, links and zooming of the screen, it may as well be epileptic and taking acid.
Now I hear Apple have stopped signing 6.0.1 in 90 mins since the 6.1 was launched. Great. 18 month old device, which won't be in warranty, made useless by no downgrade path. Any ideas?
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 04:21 PM   #2
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I've heard of a mythical beast called "Restore and set as New". Be wary of it
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How can it be almost bricked you ask? Well twitchy, random touchscreen events Triggering apps, links and zooming of the screen, it may as well be epileptic and taking acid.
Now I hear Apple have stopped signing 6.0.1 in 90 mins since the 6.1 was launched. Great. 18 month old device, which won't be in warranty, made useless by no downgrade path. Any ideas?
It's not possible to brick a device now a days
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 04:44 PM   #4
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It's not possible to brick a device now a days
but it is possible to reduce it's usefulness to that of a doorstop.

I did do restore after the normal update showed up problems, but it hasn't really helped. It's as if the screen went super-sensitive and triggers at shadows rather than touch events.

really bummed out by what was a great device, reduced to no use whatsoever.

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Do you know what bricked even means.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 07:31 PM   #6
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Try a DFU restore, see if the problem goes away.
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It's not possible to brick a device now a days
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Do you know what bricked even means.
Please stay on topic and realize that the term is used beyond the original formal meaning.

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I did do restore after the normal update showed up problems, but it hasn't really helped. It's as if the screen went super-sensitive and triggers at shadows rather than touch events.
Did you Restore as a new device only? You should not restore an old backup to it.
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Please stay on topic and realize that the term is used beyond the original formal meaning.



Did you Restore as a new device only? You should not restore an old backup to it.
Excuse me. That was not needed at all. Dont start, thank you. We both know what we are talking about.
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Old Feb 5, 2013, 01:02 PM   #9
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Excuse me. That was not needed at all. Dont start, thank you. We both know what we are talking about.
I just love it when everyone wants to help. Thanks for the hints, I'll try a restore as new and see what happens. It can't get any worse unless it was possible to properly brick it, or blow it up.

After that I may try the Applestore to see if there's any sympathy for a software update induced death.
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I just love it when everyone wants to help. Thanks for the hints, I'll try a restore as new and see what happens. It can't get any worse unless it was possible to properly brick it, or blow it up.

After that I may try the Applestore to see if there's any sympathy for a software update induced death.
DFU is a complete reinstall of the OS. Restore as new is just an erase.
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DFU is a complete reinstall of the OS. Restore as new is just an erase.
OK, DFU it will be, as the as new just reproduces the same fault as before.
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completely failed, it's just as batty as it was before. What a waste.
400 quid device completely borked.
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I just love it when everyone wants to help. Thanks for the hints, I'll try a restore as new and see what happens. It can't get any worse unless it was possible to properly brick it, or blow it up.

After that I may try the Applestore to see if there's any sympathy for a software update induced death.
Sounds like that might be the way to go at this point.
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completely failed, it's just as batty as it was before. What a waste.
400 quid device completely borked.
This is DFU restoring and setting up as new, correct? Not from backup at all?
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Odd, must be a problem with the hardware then. Millions of folks updated to 6.1 and as far as I can tell all is well. My wife & daughter's iPad mini (effectively an iPad 2) and friends iPad 3 work like a charm on 6.1
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 12:49 AM   #16
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Odd, must be a problem with the hardware then. Millions of folks updated to 6.1 and as far as I can tell all is well. My wife & daughter's iPad mini (effectively an iPad 2) and friends iPad 3 work like a charm on 6.1
Well if it is, which I can believe due to odd mis-typing I've had in the past, I could live with it before the update, because the symptoms didn't hardly affect my user experience.

Now it seems as if the sensitivity of the touch screen has gone way too high, and it effectively types by itself. If I leave the keyboard up and lay it down without even holding it, it will type random letters. if I hover my fingers a half inch above the screen, it will speed-type randomly in the vicinity of the finger(s).
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It's possible something's gone wonky with the hardware. Might be worth a trip to Apple even though it's OoW just to get a second opinion.
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Well if it is, which I can believe due to odd mis-typing I've had in the past, I could live with it before the update, because the symptoms didn't hardly affect my user experience.

Now it seems as if the sensitivity of the touch screen has gone way too high, and it effectively types by itself. If I leave the keyboard up and lay it down without even holding it, it will type random letters. if I hover my fingers a half inch above the screen, it will speed-type randomly in the vicinity of the finger(s).
Are you saying you were already having some issue before the update? And 6.1 just made it worse? If that's the case definitely sounds like a hardware issue
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Are you saying you were already having some issue before the update? And 6.1 just made it worse? If that's the case definitely sounds like a hardware issue
I had the impression that there was a dead stripe of screen, that didn't respond to touch input. after the update, it has become hyper sensitive, rather than unresponsive. of course, you can work around a dead area, you cannot work around a mental touch-happy self-typing, screen zooming maniac!

Even if the Apple verdict is 'yeah oow, wow that sucks' the fact that they slammed the door on downgrading leaves me with a device that was ok befoe, but dead now. that's not cool.

Further weirdness!

Before; [6.0.1]



Right in the typing zone for landscape. Doh. ( turn 180 ok )

After; [6.1]



And I don't know why. It went scatty for two days, and while I performed various reinstalls of iOS to try and figure it out, the last, clean DFU seems to have done it. I then restored from back up and got my data back. Seems ok.
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