2.3 & 2.5 Ghz Xserve Updates?

MacRumors · 03:19 PM

According to ThinkSecret, Apple's 1U server is set to receive a speed bump in January, likely at Macworld Expo San Francisco. Systems will be bumped to a 2.3GHz G5 processor, identical to what Virginia Tech received months ago for its System X cluster, although sources didn't dismiss the possibility that a 2.5GHz Xserve might emerge as well.

The update also relates to the upcoming release of Xsan - the new shared-storage solution due from Apple. The expected release is in the 'Fall of 2004', but new rumors place the possible release of the application possibly as late as January 2005. The current developer's Xsan Preview Build, 7N156, expires December 31, 2004.

jackieonasses · 03:21 PM

They need too. I wonder if they will just stick overly loud fans on the 2.5 or use liquid cooling...

BornAgainMac · Dec 8, 2004, 01:58 PM

Noise won't be as much of a factor in a computer room compared to an office.

jackieonasses · Dec 8, 2004, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BornAgainMac

Noise won't be as much of a factor in a computer room compared to an office.

That is what i meant. I would just put large amounts of fans, to save money without the liquid mechanism.

andiwm2003 · Dec 8, 2004, 02:00 PM

does that mean the 2.0 G5's will then be available for my imacG5 20" that i will order next year?

Mord · Dec 8, 2004, 02:01 PM

whats with xsan i know it's a file system but whats the advantage of useing it?, as for xserves, fan noise is not much of an issue there loud as hell as it is so it cant get worse and frankly no one cares

Trowaman · Dec 8, 2004, 02:08 PM

I figured this was coming, just I expected it to happen at the end of November with new emacs. Oh well, updates are good.

swissmann · Dec 8, 2004, 02:12 PM

How big is the Xserve compared to a 17 inch powerbook?

Mord · Dec 8, 2004, 02:19 PM

giant

MattG · Dec 8, 2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissmann

How big is the Xserve compared to a 17 inch powerbook?

BIG

maya · Dec 8, 2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackieonasses

They need too. I wonder if they will just stick overly loud fans on the 2.5 or use liquid cooling...

A 2.5GHz Xserver is great news IMO.

Apple is most likely going to use the new low powered G5 chips for the 2.5GHz model since no liquid cooling will be required and would most likly be less noisy and less power to drive it.

2.3GHz is already available however only to Virginia Tech.

This is also great news because it means that the PMG5 will either see a 2.8 - 3.0GHz models.

iMac G5 will be bumped to 2.0GHz in its rev B state.

And will we see a PowerBook G5, I wish MacRumors had some sort of bet on this one where we can wager money on.

~Shard~ · Dec 8, 2004, 02:23 PM

2.3 GHz would be nice, but since they have the 2.5 GHz chip already at their disposal, it wouldn't surprise me to see that as an upgrade either. As for a MWSF release for this update, makes sense to me, I think it's a strong possibility.

And before this thread gets corrupted by all the G5 PowerBook whiners: no, just because the xServe is getting faster G5 chips and it is a relatively small enclosure, this does not mean we will be seeing G5 PowerBooks released at MWSF as well...

~Shard~ · Dec 8, 2004, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m a y a

And will we see a PowerBook G5, I wish MacRumors had some sort of bet on this one where we can wager money on.

Oh, we will see one - just not at MWSF '05. If you think a G5 PowerBook will be released at MWSF then I'll be happy to take your money off your hands...

mattroberts · Dec 8, 2004, 02:32 PM

this storage solution, anybody have a bit more of an idea as to what is in it? (an educated guess is fine)

varmit · Dec 8, 2004, 02:32 PM

I would like to see both 2.3 and 2.5. Or 2.0 and 2.3. All dual processor accept the cluster node. Gives the ability to go cheaper or go for the gold with the highest.

DPazdanISU · Dec 8, 2004, 02:39 PM

I really want to buy an iMac but I can't stand the video card. Gimme a processor boost to 2ghz and even at least an optional upgrade to 128 video. Then an iMac will be in my room

maya · Dec 8, 2004, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Shard~

Oh, we will see one - just not at MWSF '05. If you think a G5 PowerBook will be released at MWSF then I'll be happy to take your money off your hands...

The cheque is in the mail.

maya · Dec 8, 2004, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPazdanISU

I really want to buy an iMac but I can't stand the video card. Gimme a processor boost to 2ghz and even at least an optional upgrade to 128 video. Then an iMac will be in my room

What about the noise, for the love of think about the noise.

swissmann · Dec 8, 2004, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattG

BIG

But so much size difference that a PowerBook couldn't fit a single 1.6 GHz processor in it and still have room to cool?

Mudbug · Dec 8, 2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m a y a

And will we see a PowerBook G5, I wish MacRumors had some sort of bet on this one where we can wager money on.

www.flyonthemac.com

outerspaceapple · Dec 8, 2004, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissmann

But so much size difference that a PowerBook couldn't fit a single 1.6 GHz processor in it and still have room to cool?

My guess is Apple has already kinked out most of the bugs related to the PBG5, and is just waiting for an optimal time to release it. 2 weeks before christmas isn't exactly optimal.

Back to subject though, XServe G5s are closing in on those x86 servers in terms of GHz (although we all know they can already handle way more instructions-per-second), and this is great news for apple. Having a 10 XServe cluster running at 2.5GHz as opposed to 2.0 or 2.3 is a huge improvement.

Like another reader pointed out, this should also mean great things for the PMG5, iMac G5, and even possibly the PBG5.

Rower_CPU · Dec 8, 2004, 03:28 PM

Apple has a whole page devoted to it in their server info: http://www.apple.com/xsan/

Should answer people's questions.

maya · Dec 8, 2004, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudbug

www.flyonthemac.com

Thank you.

ThomasHobbes · Dec 8, 2004, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissmann

But so much size difference that a PowerBook couldn't fit a single 1.6 GHz processor in it and still have room to cool?

When they're 1.7 Ghz G4's out now (Sonnet, confirmed that it is indeed a true 1.7, not overclocked like Giga Designs (1.6 to 1.73)) why go slower and way hotter with a G5?

Apple probably has 1.8 G4's and that's the next update.

swissmann · Dec 8, 2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outerspaceapple

My guess is Apple has already kinked out most of the bugs related to the PBG5, and is just waiting for an optimal time to release it. 2 weeks before christmas isn't exactly optimal.

Back to subject though, XServe G5s are closing in on those x86 servers in terms of GHz (although we all know they can already handle way more instructions-per-second), and this is great news for apple. Having a 10 XServe cluster running at 2.5GHz as opposed to 2.0 or 2.3 is a huge improvement.

Like another reader pointed out, this should also mean great things for the PMG5, iMac G5, and even possibly the PBG5.

I agree with you. I hope you are right on the PBG5 - I'm much more in the market for one of those than an XServe. Maybe someday my comapany will be big enough to warrant a couple XServes though.

Dec 8, 2004, 01:50 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	2.3 & 2.5 Ghz Xserve Updates? According to ThinkSecret, Apple's 1U server is set to receive a speed bump in January, likely at Macworld Expo San Francisco. Systems will be bumped to a 2.3GHz G5 processor, identical to what Virginia Tech received months ago for its System X cluster, although sources didn't dismiss the possibility that a 2.5GHz Xserve might emerge as well. The update also relates to the upcoming release of Xsan - the new shared-storage solution due from Apple. The expected release is in the 'Fall of 2004', but new rumors place the possible release of the application possibly as late as January 2005. The current developer's Xsan Preview Build, 7N156, expires December 31, 2004. Last edited by Doctor Q : Dec 8, 2004 at 03:19 PM.

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jackieonasses macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the great OKLAHOMA....	They need too. I wonder if they will just stick overly loud fans on the 2.5 or use liquid cooling... Last edited by Doctor Q : Dec 8, 2004 at 03:21 PM. Reason: no need to quote the news story

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Mord macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: People's Republic of Yorkshire	whats with xsan i know it's a file system but whats the advantage of useing it?, as for xserves, fan noise is not much of an issue there loud as hell as it is so it cant get worse and frankly no one cares __________________ Consider the lily.

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swissmann macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Utah Alps	How big is the Xserve compared to a 17 inch powerbook? __________________ Always looking for a faster Mac.

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Mord macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: People's Republic of Yorkshire	giant __________________ Consider the lily.

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BornAgainMac macrumors 68030 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Resident	Noise won't be as much of a factor in a computer room compared to an office.

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andiwm2003 macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston, MA	does that mean the 2.0 G5's will then be available for my imacG5 20" that i will order next year?

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Trowaman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CD: TX-22	I figured this was coming, just I expected it to happen at the end of November with new emacs. Oh well, updates are good.

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~Shard~ macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 1123.6536.5321	2.3 GHz would be nice, but since they have the 2.5 GHz chip already at their disposal, it wouldn't surprise me to see that as an upgrade either. As for a MWSF release for this update, makes sense to me, I think it's a strong possibility. And before this thread gets corrupted by all the G5 PowerBook whiners: no, just because the xServe is getting faster G5 chips and it is a relatively small enclosure, this does not mean we will be seeing G5 PowerBooks released at MWSF as well... __________________ My riches consist not in the extent of my possessions, but in the fewness of my wants. - J. Brotherton

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varmit macrumors 68000 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ	I would like to see both 2.3 and 2.5. Or 2.0 and 2.3. All dual processor accept the cluster node. Gives the ability to go cheaper or go for the gold with the highest. __________________ Powerbook 1.67Ghz G4 - 1 Gig RAM Mac Mini 1.83Ghz Core 2 Duo - 2 Gigs RAM 60 Gig iPod - 4th generation http://ducktapeandglue.com

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