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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:03 PM   #1
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New ATV rental only!!!!

Well that sucks, no more buying your content on the ATV as the new one is rental only.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:04 PM   #2
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You could buy on you computer and then stream to the ATV.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:05 PM   #3
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Its not the end of the world.... so you have to stream, no biggie!????
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I hate the fact they have moved personal content back under a "Computers" tab instead of under "Movies" or "TV Shows" on the main menu. This is a step backwards (it was this way in the early OS I believe).

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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:09 PM   #5
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The whole point of the ATV for me was so I could sit on the couch and browse and purchase my movies instead of having to do it at a computer.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:15 PM   #6
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I really liked the presentation today, the iPhone/iPod touch games, the iTunes, the new iPods, but felt really a kind of stale fizz at the Apple TV thing... my video stream cut out just when he said 'rental only' so can anyone clarify, can I still buy shows for my Apple TV old gen?

I don't buy too many series, but when I do I buy to own so I can watch again. This new model is a step back for me. But I am hoping I can still buy <fingers crossed>. They spoke to Apple TV owners... I didn't get asked ;-)
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:17 PM   #7
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Can't wait to take one apart and see how I can "improve" it.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:17 PM   #8
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The whole point of the ATV for me was so I could sit on the couch and browse and purchase my movies instead of having to do it at a computer.
Apparently you were in the minority of AppleTV owners that ever figured out how to sync an AppleTV with a computer.

At least, since they've forced future AppleTV owners into rentals, the AppleTV rentals are less expensive now!
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:17 PM   #9
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I'm confused. So what about TV shows and movies that aren't available to be rented yet? Is there no Buy option even for those things? Do they just not show up in the store on the Apple TV?
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:18 PM   #10
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Can't wait to take one apart and see how I can "improve" it.
And this is why you're on my BL here at MR!
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:21 PM   #11
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I really liked the presentation today, the iPhone/iPod touch games, the iTunes, the new iPods, but felt really a kind of stale fizz at the Apple TV thing... my video stream cut out just when he said 'rental only' so can anyone clarify, can I still buy shows for my Apple TV old gen?

I don't buy too many series, but when I do I buy to own so I can watch again. This new model is a step back for me. But I am hoping I can still buy <fingers crossed>. They spoke to Apple TV owners... I didn't get asked ;-)
They were really unclear about a lot of stuff on this one. I'm the same way...I can see renting some shows, but there are some that I want to buy. If I see an episode that I really enjoy, I may want to watch it several times. Or, like you said, I may want to purchase a season.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:22 PM   #12
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Can't wait to take one apart and see how I can "improve" it.
Yep, here's hoping it's hacked quickly and is powerful enough to run XBMC better than the old one.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:22 PM   #13
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I do love the new ATV, BUTTT, at times I really do prefer to sync to ATV, especially if I'm streaming a rather large movie that is experiencing stuttering.. Syncing the movie to the current ATV resolves the whole stutter issue.. hmmm, decisions, decisions..
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:23 PM   #14
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Tech specs are up, if anyone's interested:
http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:24 PM   #15
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I hate the fact they have moved personal content back under a "Computers" tab instead of under "Movies" or "TV Shows" on the main menu. This is a step backwards (it was this way in the early OS I believe).

Yup - I'm actually quite surprised, I'm struggling with how this is anything but a downgrade from the current device. I've archived my entire DVD library, and it would now be pulled completely out of the main Movies section? That's just...daft.

I mean come on - have an option to set a default computer, and integrate "My Movies" or "My TV Shows" menu items into the movies/TV sections if they're available.

What, did they hand the menu/UI changes to a bunch of co-op students?
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:25 PM   #16
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Shouldn't that thing run 1080p fine with the A4 chip? =(
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:29 PM   #17
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So the only major improvement on the specs is 720p@30fps.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:30 PM   #18
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I really can't see this business model working. $4.99 for movie rentals and $0.99 for TV show rentals is too much, and to only have FOX and ABC signed up in the US at launch is very bad news; include Showtime and HBO and it might have added something. And from what I can tell, I can't even access purchased content on the cloud without streaming from a local computer/device.

A parallel ad-supported model, like hulu+ in the US, might have worked. Alternatively, simply an app-based system like iPhone/iPod. In any case, even for $99 I don't see how this would fit into my system. Most of the things I'd want to do involve steaming from a computer to it, and that's just messy (and wasteful).

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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:31 PM   #19
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As long as they keep letting the current AppleTVs purchase content, then I'm happy keeping my old, but more powerful, device until the day it dies.
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:32 PM   #20
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The UK Apple TV site has got the section about TV rentals missing. Looks like only cheaper TV rentals in US
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:35 PM   #21
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all i was hoping for was to not have to maintain and continue to upgrade a home itunes server for ANY purchased itunes content.... unless i missed something
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 01:41 PM   #22
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The major problem with this as I see it is that if you use your laptop as the "streaming machine" to get content off an external drive, you've got a bit of an issue when that laptop isn't hooked up. For example, what I like about the current AppleTV is that even when I travel, my kids can watch their movies. With the new one, what do they do - rent them?
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Old Sep 1, 2010, 02:14 PM   #23
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And there will now be LESS content! A big step backwards.

-Rentals-only means ONLY ABC & Fox shows can be downloaded directly from the Apple TV right now.

-Rentals-only also means all those movies that aren't available to rent...can't download those either. No option to buy if you wanted to.
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I suspect you can still buy them on your Mac/PC and stream to the ATV.
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Can't wait to take one apart and see how I can "improve" it.
I don't see a lot of opportunity to enhance it - unless they kindly leave a SATA connection in there. I suppose the continued existence of a USB port might present some possibilities.

This just reinforces my goal of getting some sort of low-powered home (media) storage. It could push iTunes and Time Machine. Apple has no real option for expandable storage. It doesn't fit with their closed storage philosophy (they don't really make devices that allow you to upgrade the storage). In the meantime, they have products like iPads, iPods and AppleTVs that really need some sort of centralized storage - especially if your house might have more than one computer.

I'm sure I can build a nice little server myself as a project.

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