Airport

monkeydo_jb · Aug 23, 2002, 05:44 PM

If I buy a PB do I need to buy the airport basestation if I already have a wireless router?

-jeff

Royal Pineapple · Aug 23, 2002, 09:52 PM

i dont think so.
airport is just 802.11b, so if your router is too than they should work together right?

Rajj · Aug 26, 2002, 01:33 AM

I travel a lot and I always have problems with my Tibook

connecting to other wireless networks that are not Airport base

stations

, even though Apple claims the Airport cards works

with any wireless router!!

So if anyone can find out, please let me know!!!

Taft · Aug 26, 2002, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xrhajj
I travel a lot and I always have problems with my Tibook

connecting to other wireless networks that are not Airport base

stations, even though Apple claims the Airport cards works

with any wireless router!!

So if anyone can find out, please let me know!!!

What problems do you have??? I've never seen any problems.

To answer the original question, any wireless router/base station with the 802.11 standard will work. I've got a Linksys at home and it works flawlessly.

Taft

krossfyter · Aug 26, 2002, 02:14 AM

shouldnt this go under mac help questions??? anyways...

i need to network 2 macs in my home going to be running jag. network them up to share the same cable modem and printer...will the airport solve this problem? do i need another router and the airport?

Huked on Fonick · Aug 26, 2002, 02:31 AM

Answer:
no u dont i have a ibook same card...... and at home i have a linksus router and at school they have rooftop attenata but they are getting a dish that will broadcast for an area of up to 25 miles around the school should be here in like 3 weeks im stoked
as long as ur pevious netwrok is 802.11b it willl most lickly work.

sparkleytone · Aug 26, 2002, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xrhajj
I travel a lot and I always have problems with my Tibook

connecting to other wireless networks that are not Airport base

stations, even though Apple claims the Airport cards works

with any wireless router!!

So if anyone can find out, please let me know!!!

the real reason for this is the fact that wireless routers that are not airport base stations are a pain in the ass to setup right and maintain. im sure some halfwitted admin has gone thru and messed with whatever settings cnet told them was a potential vulnerabilty and put a piece of tape over it.

i didnt buy a base station, i have the SMC Wireless Barricade. It works fine in general except for the occasional reboot it requires. it is a total pain in the arse to setup properly and get port forwarding working the right way, and there still arent enough options.

next time i'll just buy the apple hardware

FatTony · Aug 26, 2002, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by krossfyter
i need to network 2 macs in my home going to be running jag. network them up to share the same cable modem and printer...will the airport solve this problem? do i need another router and the airport?

I don't know about your printer setup, but airport will allow you to share any internet connection, modem, cable, dsl. I have used it with modem and dsl with 2 airport equipped macs. That latest basestations have 2 ethernet ports so you can even share the internet connection with wired clients, too.

krossfyter · Aug 26, 2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatTony

I don't know about your printer setup, but airport will allow you to share any internet connection, modem, cable, dsl. I have used it with modem and dsl with 2 airport equipped macs. That latest basestations have 2 ethernet ports so you can even share the internet connection with wired clients, too.

Okay thanks a lot FatTony. So that anwers that.

So all I need is an aiport to connect two puters to my cable modem and printer (i believe this was confirmed earlier).
If anyone objects please let me know.

krossfyter · Aug 26, 2002, 06:49 PM

are there like 2 different models (or more) of airports??? if so whats the distinct difference. reason im asking is that i dont want to buy the wrong one.

eyelikeart · Aug 27, 2002, 10:09 AM

does anyone know how to bust through 64bit encryption with an Airport card and a wireless Linksys router?

FatTony · Aug 27, 2002, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by krossfyter
are there like 2 different models (or more) of airports??? if so whats the distinct difference. reason im asking is that i dont want to buy the wrong one.

There are 2 different models, but Apple only sells the newer one. The original model was grey and had only one ethernet port and the newer one is white and has 2 ethernet ports.

Gus · Aug 27, 2002, 11:09 AM

You didn't believe my explanation of this on the other thread about AirPort and printers? I'm hurt. Really Hurt.

Gus

Gus · Aug 27, 2002, 11:14 AM

Another difference between the two ABSs is that the old one (now called the Graphite) can only support 10-20 clients, whereas the new one (Called Snow or Ice) can support up to 50 clients. Also, the new one supports 128 bit encyption, but if you are using it at home, you don't necessarily need that, but it is nice. The old ones can be found for about $149.00 at a couple of online stores. There were reports that the new one has a longer range, but I think that that was bunk. Besides, if you are at home, the old one has plenty of range. My girlfriend lived in an aprtment across the street from my house and was using my cable connection via AirPort with no problem whatsoever.

Gus

Rajj · Aug 27, 2002, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taft

What problems do you have??? I've never seen any problems.

To answer the original question, any wireless router/base station with the 802.11 standard will work. I've got a Linksys at home and it works flawlessly.

Taft

How do you make it connect?

Like with Base Stations, all you have to do is: click the Airport

waves and select the bsae station you want to connect too!!!

It doesn't give me this option with non-Apple Base stations!!

krossfyter · Aug 27, 2002, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gus
You didn't believe my explanation of this on the other thread about AirPort and printers? I'm hurt. Really Hurt.

Gus

nah i believe you... i asked this a while back before that other post and never got a response or answer on this one. its cool. my question has been answered now form the other posts by you and a few others. thanks.

D0ct0rteeth · Aug 27, 2002, 03:25 PM

Just a quick question. I want to verify my shopping list before i buy anything

To get an ibook networked (both filesharing and internet connection) with my Powermac I just:

1. Install Jaguar to save headache and utilize kickin' Rendezvous technology
2. buy 2 airport cards and slap 'em in
3. install airport software
4. run dsl connection to Powermac
5. restart computers and enjoy the wireless goodness.

no base station needed as I will be using the Powermac G4

Thanks guys.

Krossfyter - nice site. keep up the good work.

Aug 23, 2002, 05:44 PM	#1
monkeydo_jb macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Columbia, MO	Airport If I buy a PB do I need to buy the airport basestation if I already have a wireless router? -jeff

Aug 23, 2002, 09:52 PM	#2
Royal Pineapple macrumors 65816 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Why do I live in California? Because the sun sets a block from my house.	i dont think so. airport is just 802.11b, so if your router is too than they should work together right? __________________ I'm like a superhero, with no powers or motivation Bare Feet, Not Arms All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies. -Bokonon

Aug 26, 2002, 01:33 AM	#3
Rajj macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2002 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W	I travel a lot and I always have problems with my Tibook connecting to other wireless networks that are not Airport base stations, even though Apple claims the Airport cards works with any wireless router!! So if anyone can find out, please let me know!!! __________________ Annihilation is the only key!

Aug 26, 2002, 02:14 AM	#5
krossfyter macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denton, Texas (secret city texas?)	shouldnt this go under mac help questions??? anyways... i need to network 2 macs in my home going to be running jag. network them up to share the same cable modem and printer...will the airport solve this problem? do i need another router and the airport? __________________ "never seen a leather jacket with lights in the back of it" - kool keith

Aug 26, 2002, 02:31 AM	#6
Huked on Fonick macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a cardboard shackle.	Answer: no u dont i have a ibook same card...... and at home i have a linksus router and at school they have rooftop attenata but they are getting a dish that will broadcast for an area of up to 25 miles around the school should be here in like 3 weeks im stoked as long as ur pevious netwrok is 802.11b it willl most lickly work. __________________ Computers are like air conditioners. Running them with windows open doesn't work.

Aug 26, 2002, 06:49 PM	#10
krossfyter macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denton, Texas (secret city texas?)	are there like 2 different models (or more) of airports??? if so whats the distinct difference. reason im asking is that i dont want to buy the wrong one. __________________ "never seen a leather jacket with lights in the back of it" - kool keith

Aug 27, 2002, 10:09 AM	#11
eyelikeart Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Metairie, LA	does anyone know how to bust through 64bit encryption with an Airport card and a wireless Linksys router?

Aug 27, 2002, 11:09 AM	#13
Gus macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minnesota	What'samatter KrossFyter? You didn't believe my explanation of this on the other thread about AirPort and printers? I'm hurt. Really Hurt. Gus __________________ Shop smart, shop S-Mart.

Aug 27, 2002, 11:14 AM	#14
Gus macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minnesota	By the way... Another difference between the two ABSs is that the old one (now called the Graphite) can only support 10-20 clients, whereas the new one (Called Snow or Ice) can support up to 50 clients. Also, the new one supports 128 bit encyption, but if you are using it at home, you don't necessarily need that, but it is nice. The old ones can be found for about $149.00 at a couple of online stores. There were reports that the new one has a longer range, but I think that that was bunk. Besides, if you are at home, the old one has plenty of range. My girlfriend lived in an aprtment across the street from my house and was using my cable connection via AirPort with no problem whatsoever. Gus __________________ Shop smart, shop S-Mart.

Aug 27, 2002, 03:25 PM	#17
D0ct0rteeth macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Franklin, TN	Just a quick question. I want to verify my shopping list before i buy anything To get an ibook networked (both filesharing and internet connection) with my Powermac I just: 1. Install Jaguar to save headache and utilize kickin' Rendezvous technology 2. buy 2 airport cards and slap 'em in 3. install airport software 4. run dsl connection to Powermac 5. restart computers and enjoy the wireless goodness. no base station needed as I will be using the Powermac G4 Thanks guys. Krossfyter - nice site. keep up the good work. __________________ http://twitter.com/c_johnson

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