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Apple Sues Tiger Leaks
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As much as I agree with this, I hate to see Apple give us teasers and even hearing that 'another developer release was seeded today'.
CaptainScarlet said:
It was on Mac TKA almost instantly.... I'm sure other sites had it as well.
As for major crack-down time, yeah, whatever. The sites themselves, you may notice, can't really be prosecuted... only the guys that "seeded" Tiger. I got a copy myself and threw it on my G4 400 laptop. No big deal... and going after these three guys is a drop in the bucket.
Good for Apple for taking a stand. Apple software is actually worth paying money for (unlike a lot of other software out there) so I think this is a good thing. I don't care if they shut the torrent sites down, I never use them anyways.. 
~Shard~ said:Good for Apple for taking a stand. Apple software is actually worth paying money for (unlike a lot of other software out there) so I think this is a good thing. I don't care if they shut the torrent sites down, I never use them anyways..
What, exactly, is wrong with downloading a pre-release, buggy Tiger that's not for sale, if I intend to buy the real Tiger when it comes out anyway?
oh whoopdy... sueing over a non documented os that is buggy and slower than panther.... woo... Big trade secrets ..... It is not like it is hardware, it is just an os that othjers will copy no matter what. But for the most part no one is going to copy core image ,,, more than likely spotlight will get cloned onto pc but really what else is there ?
Jusrt release it as public beta, that way EVeRYone can send in bugs, as it seems there bug testers dont find them all anyway as is the case of 10.3.6
Sue happy this week yes..
Jusrt release it as public beta, that way EVeRYone can send in bugs, as it seems there bug testers dont find them all anyway as is the case of 10.3.6
Sue happy this week yes..
damn, i may take my copy offline is apple is going to do stuff like this, i sit behind a proxy but i don't want to take any chances
edit: i wont post again as i dont want to get into a flame war as i have very strong views on this so please dont quote me with angry posts about morality.
edit: i wont post again as i dont want to get into a flame war as i have very strong views on this so please dont quote me with angry posts about morality.
Both things are ILLEGAL. Get over it. downloading software is illigal. If you have a problem with that you should complain at apple.tveric said:
Merry Christmas from apple?
Well I'm glad they are prosecuting,
The whole point of developer relaese's I thought was to get as many bugs out of the system before the gold release.
The people they are seeded to are supposed to be trustworthy and draw out the bugs etc so when the full version comes out it's reasonably stable, so that people who know so much about programming (would fit on the back of a post-it) don't need to worry to much, and can feel somewhat reassure that someone has not been working on ways to disrupt my machine because of a virus/trojan etc, because they got bored one saturday and thought take a swipe at OSX, because they found a tiger seed on some P2P thing.
(Fully aware that it won't run on anything but an apple hardware, but anyone wishing to be malicious will not nescaerilly only hce a PC, if you think they would only use a PC, then you rreally are being a little niave )
If they are disgruntled that the work they are doing is not being recognised by apple, or feel software should be free for all, then perhaps they should concentrate on Linux instead. Not put developer seeds on P2P networks.
Not only does it look , and will probably cost them dear, it may put apple off giving out further seeds to others who may be able to inovate.
Well I'm glad they are prosecuting,
The whole point of developer relaese's I thought was to get as many bugs out of the system before the gold release.
The people they are seeded to are supposed to be trustworthy and draw out the bugs etc so when the full version comes out it's reasonably stable, so that people who know so much about programming (would fit on the back of a post-it) don't need to worry to much, and can feel somewhat reassure that someone has not been working on ways to disrupt my machine because of a virus/trojan etc, because they got bored one saturday and thought take a swipe at OSX, because they found a tiger seed on some P2P thing.
(Fully aware that it won't run on anything but an apple hardware, but anyone wishing to be malicious will not nescaerilly only hce a PC, if you think they would only use a PC, then you rreally are being a little niave
)If they are disgruntled that the work they are doing is not being recognised by apple, or feel software should be free for all, then perhaps they should concentrate on Linux instead. Not put developer seeds on P2P networks.
Not only does it look , and will probably cost them dear, it may put apple off giving out further seeds to others who may be able to inovate.
by releasing the preview in the wild it lets out trade secrets that apple needs to keep under wraps, but also needs to have developers tinker with to fix. If you're in competition with someone, and know you could get a sneak peek at their latest thingamabob before it went public, you'd probably want to get your hands on that. It's called industrial espionage. And it's a bad thing.tveric said:
It's not just crazy mac enthusiasts downloading this stuff.
tveric said:
Well, its not just that. I think they know what they did is wrong. I read thier forums and they sound remorsful. Its one thing to punish them, but these guys are just college kids. How can you expect these kids to pay for lawyers fees, damages etc?
They should have stopped at banning the ADC membership.
tveric said:
Whether you intend to buy the final or not, you have still stolen the pre-release. A developer membership costs $500, so you have stolen $500.
Heart Break Kid said:
so they should only prosecute folks who have the bankroll to formally defend themselves in court against a major corporate entity?
no - this is illegal activity, plain and simple, and Apple is following through with the 'promise' it made in the NDA that the developers signed.
Heart Break Kid said:
maybe , but who is at fault here ? them for putting it P2P or the people downloading it ? just ban them and let that be it no need to sue , i am sure if the likes of Microsoft wanted a copy of it they would of had one the day it was released and it would of come direct from apple ! it's not as if microsoft does not develope apps for apple anyway?
mind you i can see apple's point of view if they wanted to stop distros going out to the wrong people , for Virus and other bad stuff but no need to sue them !
tveric said:
The harm could come from software competitors who could preview Tiger-only features before the actual release, giving them more time to integrate them, perhaps before even the actual release of Tiger (and than claiming they invented/innovated it themselves).
Sounds familiar?
Edit: what Mudbug said.