New Gateway system

Backtothemac · Aug 27, 2002, 11:50 AM

Well, there has been a lot of talk about the Gateway Profile 4 all over the web. I think the shock really is more that Gateway could even launch a campaign against Apple, much less have the guts to do it. Now that being said, I used to work for the cow, and was part of her "restructuring" so I have a first hand perspective on this.

The Profile 4 is just another all in one PC. The tests that they used were not tests in which there was any, and I mean any intensive CPU tests. They ran the tests against 10.1.4. How can we accept the validity of a test when the tester doesn't even know to update the Mac to the most current OS update, much less 10.2.

Why no number intensive tests? Why no DVD Burner? I would love to see Apple have an ad that says not so fast there Teddy boy.

Run Photoshop 7 tests, and DVD burning test. That would really drive the point home. Gateway had best beware. This is not the time to come after Apple. Yes, the profile 4 is cheaper, and does less, and looks far worse, runs windows, can't burn DVD's, doesn't have near the specs, has biased testing done to promote its status.

Man. When will PC companies learn?

Macmaniac · Aug 27, 2002, 01:06 PM

They will never learn, as long as their ignorance can make their machines look better they will continue to run outdated tests like these.
Man some times I get so mad at PC compaines!!!!

Come on Apple launch a counter attack!!!!!!

mnkeybsness · Aug 27, 2002, 01:27 PM

speaking of all that's been said...

has anyone heard anything about that law suit against intel/dell/hp? the one about manipulating customers to believe that mhz was what made a computer better...i'm too lazy to look for the thread that we talked about it in right now.

spinner · Aug 27, 2002, 01:43 PM

The whole mhz thing is going to come back to haunt them and I am not talking about the lawsuit. Look at the Itanium, it tops out at 800mhz last I read. Unless next gen Intel chips exceed the P4 in mhz, consumers are going to think they are getting took. We know the truth but PC users still have the wool pulled over their eyes.

Mr. Anderson · Aug 27, 2002, 02:11 PM

Wasn't there talk about putting pcs in the Apple Store to show everyone what the comparisons were really like? Well, the Gateway Profile 4 should be the first one - and that would take care of that.....

sickboy_osX · Aug 27, 2002, 02:37 PM

So i was just reading the PDF propaganda our comrades over at gateway have posted.

I noticed several things that pissed me off

1. The Gateways got 512 Mb Ram each, and the macs got 256
2. 10.1.5 and 10.1.4?? WTF? Why not 10.2?

I have to admit that i dont like gateways, but is it just me, or is this gateway trying to recover from the highly sucessful "Switch" campaign? Hey Gateway and Ted next time you try to take on Apple....make it fair, make the machines with the same configs as you have on those Pc's..

MacBandit · Aug 27, 2002, 11:39 PM

So everyone knows. The reason the iMac did so poorly in the Quake test is because they tested it in Classic. The system comes with OSX as the booting system and they do not officially make Quake for OSX so they started it up it brought up Classic and they ran there tests there.

Check out www.xlr8yourmac.com today 08/27/02.

Rajj · Aug 27, 2002, 11:59 PM

***Important Note*****

Thay didn't say how many times Windows got an error report for each test!!!

ie:"This application has to close now, Do you want to send a message to Microsoft?""'

Rajj · Aug 28, 2002, 12:00 AM

***Important Note*****

Thay didn't say how many times Windows got an error report for each test!!!

ie:"This application has to close now, Do you want to send a message to Microsoft?""'

The people who have use Windows XP, know what I am talking about!!

vniow · Aug 28, 2002, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xrhajj

The people who have use Windows XP, know what I am talking about!!

Gawd, I hate that. It hasn't come up on me in the pest couple weeks though. Not like I'd send it anywayz.

BTW, there is an edit button somewhere.....

galstaph · Aug 28, 2002, 01:03 AM

It's still ugly...

IMac look 1,000,000,000,000,000% better.

You know a PC company's getting desperate when....

MacMaster · Aug 28, 2002, 01:51 AM

I'm going to make a movie out of this(ad rather)...pro-imac of course!

It will show all of the things that the imac can do, the profile 4 will sit there shaking it's "screen" after each question, and then at the end the imac will stick its "tongue"(the DVD drive) out at the profile 4!

I think the first version will just be clips from different apple/gateway commercials...Then(much later)

possibly I'll try to do some work with Maya or something...

vniow · Aug 28, 2002, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacMaster
I'm going to make a movie out of this(ad rather)...pro-imac of course! It will show all of the things that the imac can do, the profile 4 will sit there shaking it's "screen" after each question, and then at the end the imac will stick its "tongue"(the DVD drive) out at the profile 4!

I think the first version will just be clips from different apple/gateway commercials...Then(much later) possibly I'll try to do some work with Maya or something...

Ooh, make it a switch ad, then submit in in the contest. I'd love to see it.

MacMaster · Aug 28, 2002, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by edvniow

Ooh, make it a switch ad, then submit in in the contest. I'd love to see it.

I'm going to start it tomorrow!

jefhatfield · Aug 30, 2002, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Macmaniac
They will never learn, as long as their ignorance can make their machines look better they will continue to run outdated tests like these.
Man some times I get so mad at PC compaines!!!!

Come on Apple launch a counter attack!!!!!!

apple's counter attack are their great machines they consistenly put out year after year

even during the dark days of apple before the g3, as some would call it, macs still trounced pcs

Aug 27, 2002, 11:50 AM	#1
Backtothemac macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana	New Gateway system Well, there has been a lot of talk about the Gateway Profile 4 all over the web. I think the shock really is more that Gateway could even launch a campaign against Apple, much less have the guts to do it. Now that being said, I used to work for the cow, and was part of her "restructuring" so I have a first hand perspective on this. The Profile 4 is just another all in one PC. The tests that they used were not tests in which there was any, and I mean any intensive CPU tests. They ran the tests against 10.1.4. How can we accept the validity of a test when the tester doesn't even know to update the Mac to the most current OS update, much less 10.2. Why no number intensive tests? Why no DVD Burner? I would love to see Apple have an ad that says not so fast there Teddy boy. Run Photoshop 7 tests, and DVD burning test. That would really drive the point home. Gateway had best beware. This is not the time to come after Apple. Yes, the profile 4 is cheaper, and does less, and looks far worse, runs windows, can't burn DVD's, doesn't have near the specs, has biased testing done to promote its status. Man. When will PC companies learn? __________________ MacBook 2.4GHZ 3GB Ram 320GB HD

Aug 27, 2002, 01:06 PM	#2
Macmaniac macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A tiny spec in the "Garden State", 1 square mile in area, somewhere on the outskirts of town by the railroad tracks	They will never learn, as long as their ignorance can make their machines look better they will continue to run outdated tests like these. Man some times I get so mad at PC compaines!!!! Come on Apple launch a counter attack!!!!!! __________________ The customer is NOT always right

Aug 27, 2002, 01:27 PM	#3
mnkeybsness macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Moneyapolis, Minnesota	speaking of all that's been said... has anyone heard anything about that law suit against intel/dell/hp? the one about manipulating customers to believe that mhz was what made a computer better...i'm too lazy to look for the thread that we talked about it in right now. __________________ Scribbls - a collaborative drawing community designed to combine drawings into outcomes—no talent required.

Aug 27, 2002, 02:11 PM	#5
Mr. Anderson Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Back in VA	Wasn't there talk about putting pcs in the Apple Store to show everyone what the comparisons were really like? Well, the Gateway Profile 4 should be the first one - and that would take care of that..... __________________ "Klaatu varada nikto!"

Aug 27, 2002, 02:37 PM	#6
sickboy_osX macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pocatello, Idaho	So i was just reading the PDF propaganda our comrades over at gateway have posted. I noticed several things that pissed me off 1. The Gateways got 512 Mb Ram each, and the macs got 256 2. 10.1.5 and 10.1.4?? WTF? Why not 10.2? I have to admit that i dont like gateways, but is it just me, or is this gateway trying to recover from the highly sucessful "Switch" campaign? Hey Gateway and Ted next time you try to take on Apple....make it fair, make the machines with the same configs as you have on those Pc's.. __________________ /* Shon W. Harris If I had the source code I could change the world -God sickboy (at) inconnu.isu.edu */

Aug 27, 2002, 01:43 PM	#4
spinner macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Dakota	The whole mhz thing is going to come back to haunt them and I am not talking about the lawsuit. Look at the Itanium, it tops out at 800mhz last I read. Unless next gen Intel chips exceed the P4 in mhz, consumers are going to think they are getting took. We know the truth but PC users still have the wool pulled over their eyes.

Aug 27, 2002, 11:39 PM	#7
MacBandit macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)	So everyone knows. The reason the iMac did so poorly in the Quake test is because they tested it in Classic. The system comes with OSX as the booting system and they do not officially make Quake for OSX so they started it up it brought up Classic and they ran there tests there. Check out www.xlr8yourmac.com today 08/27/02. __________________ Folding@Home "Folding FAQ," for more information. Fold with your PS3. Message me on the Playstation Network ID 'MacBandit'

Aug 27, 2002, 11:59 PM	#8
Rajj macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2002 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W	*Important Note* Thay didn't say how many times Windows got an error report for each test!!! ie:"This application has to close now, Do you want to send a message to Microsoft?""' __________________ Annihilation is the only key!**

Aug 28, 2002, 12:00 AM	#9
Rajj macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2002 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W	*Important Note* Thay didn't say how many times Windows got an error report for each test!!! ie:"This application has to close now, Do you want to send a message to Microsoft?""' The people who have use Windows XP, know what I am talking about!! __________________ Annihilation is the only key!**

Aug 28, 2002, 01:03 AM	#11
galstaph macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Great White North Eh	It's still ugly... IMac look 1,000,000,000,000,000% better. You know a PC company's getting desperate when.... __________________ iBook 12" 1.33ghz; 8gb ipt; early '09 17" 2.66Ghz umbp; '09 Mac Pro 2.26 octad "..unlike some other Robin Hoods, I can speak with an English accent"

Aug 28, 2002, 01:51 AM	#12
MacMaster macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002	I'm going to make a movie out of this(ad rather)...pro-imac of course! It will show all of the things that the imac can do, the profile 4 will sit there shaking it's "screen" after each question, and then at the end the imac will stick its "tongue"(the DVD drive) out at the profile 4! I think the first version will just be clips from different apple/gateway commercials...Then(much later) possibly I'll try to do some work with Maya or something...

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