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Old Oct 30, 2010, 02:15 PM   #1
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MacBook Air Displays - Higher PPI -- 11.6" or 13" ?

OK, my question is, which MacBook Air display has the higher PPI (in other words, text and everything else appears a smaller size). The 11.6" is 1366x768 resolution while the 13" is 1440x900. I have heard that the 13" has a very high PPI (pixels-per-inch) but is the 11.6" actually higher? Does anybody know?
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Old Oct 30, 2010, 02:21 PM   #2
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OK, my question is, which MacBook Air display has the higher PPI (in other words, text and everything else appears a smaller size). The 11.6" is 1366x768 resolution while the 13" is 1440x900. I have heard that the 13" has a very high PPI (pixels-per-inch) but is the 11.6" actually higher? Does anybody know?
11.6": 135.09 PPI
13.3": 127.68 PPI

Source: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html
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Old Oct 30, 2010, 02:22 PM   #3
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Quick answer. Thank you!!
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Old Oct 30, 2010, 03:07 PM   #4
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There's a great article on this here:

http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/201...’-resolutions/

Another reason I returned my 11" Air - it has the HIGHEST PPI of any mac.

UI elements on the 11" Air are 30% smaller than the UI elements on the 21" iMac. Now that's TINY. And it was too tiny for me.
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This is just the reason I don't like the 17" PowerBook's 1920x1200 display resolution, because the PPI is so high, the UI elements are so tiny and small. But still, I'm looking forward to getting my ULTRAPORTABLE 11.6" MacBook Air on Monday!
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Old Oct 30, 2010, 03:17 PM   #6
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The higher DPI for me is one of the reasons I love this machine. For me the higher the better.

High DPI was one of the reasons I almost bought a Sony P series; it has a 8" 1600x768 display (for a kick ass 221.85 dpi).
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The higher DPI for me is one of the reasons I love this machine. For me the higher the better.

High DPI was one of the reasons I almost bought a Sony P series; it has a 8" 1600x768 display (for a kick ass 221.85 dpi).
Same here, I prefer the higher DPI. But no TOO high or else my eyes would fall off. I think the 1366x768 on the 11.6" is perfect. I wouldn't go any smaller (or larger DPI) than that.
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From first looks at in-store displays it looks good, not too bad, but on a larger display that high of a PPI would not be very much fun. Imagine you could have a 2560x1600 display at 17 or 18" with this high of a PPI. amazing! But everything in the UI interface would be very tiny.
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Side by side under incandescent (not florescent like in the Apple Store) the difference between the 11" @ 135 PPI & 13" @ 127 PPI is not that noticeable.

Certainly not a deal breaker in my opinion. Generally it takes at least a 15 PPI difference to be truly noticeable.

If you were doing a double blind test, and didn't know the specs in advance, I challenge anyone to be able to identify which one has a higher PPI. In general it' can't be done.

It's far more important to choose based on display size when choosing the one you are going to stare at, for hours and hours over the life of the computer.
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Right, it's probably not that noticeable. The PPI on the 13" is still extremely high and it delivers high DPI and more screen real estate. Still a great display, it has better contrast and color gamut than the 11.6". Images on both displays should look razor sharp and very crisp. Much better than the 13" or 15" MacBook Pro, as far as PPI and DPI go. Even higher PPI than the hi-res 15" model @ 1680x1050
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Much better than the 13" or 15" MacBook Pro, as far as PPI and DPI go. Even higher PPI than the hi-res 15" model @ 1680x1050
For sake of comparison:

11.6" 1366x768 = 135.09 PPI

13.3" 1440x900 = 127.68 PPI

15.4" 1680x1050 = 128.65 PPI
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But everything in the UI interface would be very tiny.
Apple just needs to optimize the OS X for hi res displays. Resolution independence would be great
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For sake of comparison:

11.6" 1366x768 = 135.09 PPI

13.3" 1440x900 = 127.68 PPI

15.4" 1680x1050 = 128.65 PPI
I can tell you that moving from my 15" Hi-Res MPB to my 13.3" MBA I hardly notice any difference in screen resolution at all.

Now I see why!
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Another reason I returned my 11" Air - it has the HIGHEST PPI of any mac.
That's the reason I BOUGHT a 11". The PPI of macs has always been too low.
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i can't use anymore my early 2010 macbook pro 2.4 with 1280x800 after using this new 13,3 MBA... the old pro looks totally blurry
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I don't think 8 PPI extra would make a difference. *

And the 13" is beautiful, I have been using 1280x800 on the 13.3" for two years and is crispier:

1280x800 13.3" 113.49 PPI

is 14 PPI extra

* However, 14 is subtle but noticible. Sure it's worth to have 7PPI extra on 11.6" and not the 13.3" where you get more screen estate?
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try using a 13.3" 1440x900 and then return to the 1280x800.. and you'll see
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Try using one of the older 20" or 24" iMacs and then compare it to the PPI on the 11.6" MBA. It is like comparing an old iPhone to the new retina display. After using the retina display, and looking at my old iPhone 2G screen, I can REALLY tell the difference. You can actually see the pixels, easily,
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by screen size:

iPhone 3.5" 480x320 164.83 PPI

iPhone4 3.5" 960x640 329.65 PPI

iPad 9.7" 1024x768 131.96 PPI

MacBookAir 11.6" 1366x768 135.09 PPI

MacBookAir 13.3" 1440x900 127.68 PPI

MacBook 13.3" 1280x800 113.49 PPI

MacBookPro 13.3" 1280x800 113.49 PPI

MacBookPro 15.4" 1440x900 110.27 PPI

MacBookPro 17" 1920x1200 133.19 PPI

iMac 21.5" 1920x1080 102.46 PPI

iMac 27" 2560x1440 108.79 PPI

~Sony Vaio VPCZ11Z9E/B 13.1" 1920x1080 168.16 PPI



by PPI:

iPhone4 329.65 PPI

~Sony Vaio 168.16 PPI

iPhone 164.83 PPI

MacBookAir 11" 135.09 PPI

MacBookPro 17" 133.19 PPI

iPad 131.96 PPI

MacBookAir 13" 127.68 PPI

MacBook 113.49 PPI

MacBookPro 13" 113.49 PPI

MacBookPro 15" 110.27 PPI

iMac 27" 108.79 PPI

iMac 21" 102.46 PPI
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If you want a 11.6" display with a 1024x576, then you'd have nice big pictures and font, but then you'd also have scrolling desktops like the netbook users out there.

EDIT: You guys really need to post your sources; I know the latter wasn't made fresh seeing I've already seen that chart before.
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If you want a 11.6" display with a 1024x576, then you'd have nice big pictures and font, but then you'd also have scrolling desktops like the netbook users out there.

EDIT: You guys really need to post your sources; I know the latter wasn't made fresh seeing I've already seen that chart before.
What sources?

If you mean the PPI there is a link on the 2nd post to where you can calculate. Screen size and resolution frommmy post is from Apple's website.
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This is where I got that chart, I just took a screenshot and made a JPEG and uploaded it to my web server. Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._pixel_density
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