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Old Nov 19, 2010, 11:07 AM   #1
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Vettel has stopped crying and Pirelli tire testing is under way. Let the silly season for 2011 commence.

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Old Nov 19, 2010, 11:15 AM   #2
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Only 113 Days, 19 Hours, 44 Minutes And 45 Seconds before the Bahrain GP.
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The question on everybody's lips: how many Lotus teams will there be? 0? 1? 2?
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Only 113 Days, 19 Hours, 44 Minutes And 45 Seconds before the Bahrain GP.
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Old Nov 19, 2010, 11:18 AM   #5
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Yes, the Bahrain GP will be a nice warm up for my trip to the ILMC/ALMS opener at Sebring a week later.
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Old Nov 19, 2010, 11:22 AM   #6
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For those who aren't aware, Peter Windsor has been busy lately tweeting and blogging: http://www.theracedriver.com/
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Old Nov 19, 2010, 11:22 AM   #7
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The question on everybody's lips: how many Lotus teams will there be? 0? 1? 2?
Group Lotus Renault or Team Lotus Renault or both?
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Group Lotus Renault or Team Lotus Renault or both?
Hopefully just the one, and given what we currently know, one would have to say the latter, Team Lotus Renault.

It's an interesting one this, and one that I've been loosely following. But from my understanding, Group Lotus don't have any rights to either the Team Lotus brand or it's heritage (e.g. Group Lotus shouldn't be using images of the old Team Lotus etc on their website, as they have no claim whatsoever to being the original team, having been separate entities since 1954).

I suspect we'll see some kind of compromise given both Group Lotus and Team Lotus/Tony Fernandes Malaysian ties, something will be worked out. The question of course is, even if it is worked out, is it really going to be Team Lotus in anything other than name?
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is it really going to be Team Lotus in anything other than name?
Before Lotus Fest as Snetterton this year I'd have said they were total frauds. The current Lotus Racing turned up, integrated perfectly with Classic Team Lotus and were generally wonderful. I'd say they are what they are, a new team, but they are based in Norfolk and as close as we'll ever get to Team Lotus back again.
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Awesome. For those looking for F1-related people to follow on Twitter, the BBC's @jakehumphreyf1 is great, although I can imagine everyone here is already aware of him, at least for UK MR-ers
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As expected, F1 is to change to turbo'd 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engines from 2013.

Apparently, around about 600bhp, with the remaining 150bhp to be released by KERS & "power-boost" (presumably turbo-boost) systems. With the introduction of new "compounding" technology in the years afterwards.

Sadly though, they'll only spin at 10,000rpm... which means the days on the sonorous-screamers will be over, hopefully not to be replaced by the dreadfully dull drone of the last turbo era.
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anyone got a bead on the driver line ups?
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look at you paying attention and all... thanks.

i honestly think i'd rather see Jarno in NASCAR.

Petrov fired? he didn't do too badly, did he?
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I was reading on formula1.com that the cars typically will pull about 3.5G's in a corner. Then I was watching the onboard video for the pole position of each race this year and I've seen many of them pull 5.0G's in corners. That is so amazing!

But I have to ask, why doesn't the telemetry measure more than 5.0G's? It maxes out at that and I have to believe that they pull more G's than 5.0. Maybe not 6.0 but a little more in between.

Either way, 5G's is totally awesome! I wish I could be a Formula 1 driver, it looks so fun and challenging. Challenging meaning the ability to handle the car, let alone race other professionals.
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But I have to ask, why doesn't the telemetry measure more than 5.0G's? It maxes out at that and I have to believe that they pull more G's than 5.0. Maybe not 6.0 but a little more in between.
Perhaps they would pass-out above 5.0 G's??

They don't wear pressure suits, after all.
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Perhaps they would pass-out above 5.0 G's??

They don't wear pressure suits, after all.
Well, they got to be pulling more than 5, like maybe 5.2 or 5.7 or something. The telemetry gauge just stops measuring at 5. Most of those 5G's are latitudinal and longitudinal under braking. I don't know for sure, but I doubt a pressure suit would be needed because they don't go inverted like a fighter jet. Plus the cars only hit those G's for barely a second or two.

I also think it's cool that in theory these cars could drive upside down with the amount of down force they have.

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So apparently Webber completed the last 4 races of the 2010 seas with a broken shoulder.

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I have always for some reason wanted some one to build some sort of track to actually see if they can be driven on the ceiling.
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So apparently Webber completed the last 4 races of the 2010 seas with a broken shoulder.

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Good on him for manning up and toughing it out as best he could.

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I have always for some reason wanted some one to build some sort of track to actually see if they can be driven on the ceiling.
That would be cool! The only problems I can foresee would be with the fluids of the car being inverted and the blood of the driver. I think the driver would certainly need a pressure suit for that action. They'd have to find a way to operate the engine both upside down, right side up and on it's side. I'm sure it can be done though. Then you have to figure out how to engineer a track to accommodate going from right side up to upside down and back again.
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I have always for some reason wanted some one to build some sort of track to actually see if they can be driven on the ceiling.
I imagine you'd have to do it in a long tunnel. It would be quite a stunt...
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Hot Wheels did it, but it was more centrifugal force than aerodynamic down-force.
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I have always for some reason wanted some one to build some sort of track to actually see if they can be driven on the ceiling.
For that to happen, F1 has to reintroduce side railings which increases down force TREMENDOUSLY on cars.
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I imagine you'd have to do it in a long tunnel. It would be quite a stunt...
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