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Napster vs iTunes: Superbowl Ad
USA Today reports on Napster's upcoming Superbowl advertisement which is directly targeted against Apple's iTunes/iPod.
The theme of the campaign is "Do the Math" will be pushing the Napster To Go service which allows users to transfer an unlimited number of songs to their (WMA-compatible) music player for $15/month: Quote:
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macrumors 68040
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: washington dc
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lame...
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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No one wants to have yet another montly bill. I don't think subscription services will ever catch on, no matter how cheap. I know I would never want one. The way iTMS does it is just more flexible and the price is already better than buying in store. There's really not much to improve on.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Its so true. Nobody wants to rent their music. they want to own it!
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Where in their calculation does Napster account for the "your music player sucks almost as bad as the Napster interface" variable?
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The last time a company told consumers to "do the math" was with the Atari Jaguar.
And we all know how that one turned out. |
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Then what when you don't want to spend the $15 a month anymore but you still want that music you have listening to for so long. I would rather know I did the math spent the money and still have the music. Thank you very much!!
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AR
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I dunno. It would be nice to keep refilling your player with new content. However, I use a lot of my purchased tracks for other purposes besides just listening to music. I use iTunes music in slide shows, home movies,dvds etc. If Microsoft could build Janus so that rented songs could be used in projects such as the ones I mentioned above, then *maybe* they would have something unique.
However, I doubt that will ever happen. |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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So far, this story has been rated 100% negative. Is our Apple bias showing or are we simply sensible?
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Quote:
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Yeah, the Atari Jaguar was heinously unsuccessful. I was about to bring up that campaign myself.
Napster is forgetting one key thing with this little ad of theirs - people won't want to give up their iPods to use their service, even if it is a better value as they claim. |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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If with the $9.99 per month (or whatever it is) cost your were able to keep 5-10 songs, this may be something. Large library for you, keep the ones you like, sales for napster.
Only problem is that idea would not work well with the shuffle... |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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I agree that I don't want to rent my music, I want to own it. If I want to burn a CD of it I want to be able to, or use it for a slideshow or a move. I think it's stupid that I would pay $15 a month to basicly try out music. If I really like it and want to have it permantly I still have to buy it. Plus I'd never trade my iPod for a lesser MP3 player just so it would work with this service.
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Has anyone ever met or heard of someone actually paying for and using Napster? The only time I've ever heard of Napster even existing in the wild are those wildly unpopular agreements where universities force the service on students.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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apple should also offer this to put them out of business.
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iTunes will be giving away songs for free, don't you think it would undermine Napster's whole anti-$.99 campaign?
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I have 2 iPods and love iTunes, BUT... I would like to give the subscription model a try. There are lots of songs on iTunes that I never buy because I don't think I'd listen to them 2 months from now. With a subscription, I could have them for 2 months and then delete them off.
Just the other day I was going through the music videos on iTunes. They had a classic live performance of the Bee Gees. I was thinking how I'd like to download and listen to all the popular songs the Bee Gees had from the 70s. Problem was I just wanted to hear them once and wouldn't want to hear them again any time soon. The 30 second preview just wasn't enough. I won't try Napster because they don't support iPods. If Napster did support the iPod, I'd give it a try in a second. I have so say that if Apple ever does do the subscription model, the negetive votes for this thread would quickly change to positive. |
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Do the math... weekly sales?
![]() Bah! I agree with the first post... lame!
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So fat people with the Napster icon on their stomachs can fill up my music player? And it doesn't work with the iPod?
I hope this commercial flops....but I guess I'll have to see it about 2000 times after the superbowl....
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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They never learn...
Good lord, when will these people understand that rental music just doesn't interest people? This model is what, 5 years old? 7 years old?
As for doing the math, anyone I know already has a sizeable CD collection, and if not, they will have to buy their music somewhere. It's not like you have to pay for your CD's and then again to download them. You can't point to a CD tower and say "Sure it's only fifty bucks, but do you realize how much it's going to cost to put CD's in there?" --DT |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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It seems like the past year or so Apple has been bombarded with competitors trying to get a piece of the Apple pie. How many "iPod killers" and new services have been introduced and then gone away? Apple looks better to the consumer everytime someone else puts out new and useless crap. Heck, even Microsoft employees are using iPods on the Microsoft campus.
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Word of the day: desparation!!
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$15 X 12 months = 180 yearly. Hell I havn't even spent that much yet on iTunes, and I have had my iPod since Nov. 2003. My mom has only spent about $40, while the rest of her music comes from the CDs she already owns. Now to even keep playing the music, you have to keep paying Napster. Where as in iTunes, $1 a song and its mine for life.
I did the math, I like my iTunes. And yes, I would love it if Apple would buy a spot in the 4th quarter and do an AD say just that.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Well I decided to do the math- and it turns out it cost me 0.00 dollars to fill my iPod. Napster will have to try to gloss over the fact that most people already have large libraries of CDs that they will rip and put on their mp3 players when they buy them.
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Can these Napster music files be shared with other computers? Apples itunes music files can be shared with other computers right? (limited number?)
I agree that not being able to use the downloaded music in any other app would really be a drawback for me. I use all my downloads in DVD's Movies etc. I would think that this sales approach would benefit the average downloader who doesn't do much else but listen to there (ugly) mp3 music player.
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