whats the difference between the two 13"s?

Funkymonk · Feb 26, 2011, 11:33 AM

What will you feel the difference of speed in between the i5 and the i7? How much of a difference? Seconds or minutes? Worth the extra hundreds?

iPhoneCollector · 11:36 AM

it's a matter of hours. no really if you don't do some serious video encoding or something like that you are not able to notice any difference. i mean you could film it in slo-mo and wouldn't notice a difference in the playback

alust2013 · Feb 26, 2011, 11:36 AM

I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Seconds or minutes of what? If you're doing video encoding, sure you'll notice a difference, but if you're using it for standard uses, you likely won't notice a difference.

Miss Terri · Feb 26, 2011, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alust2013

If you're doing video encoding, sure you'll notice a difference, but if you're using it for standard uses, you likely won't notice a difference.

Could I interject with a question?

I have not done any video work to speak of. But... I think I would like to get into it a little bit more. This would not be on a professional level, and I imagine I would be using clips from a regular (non-video) camera or maybe a Go-Pro HD camera. Thinking of iMovie 11 or FCE for editing.

So, my question: What is "video encoding"? Like I said.... (obviously) I haven't done any video to-date. Would what I described above be "encoding"? Does all video work include encoding? Or only some certain types?

(Right now I have a 2010 MBP, 2.4ghz 4g RAM. Upgrading to 8g RAM seems like a no-brainer no matter what I do. But I want to take a big-picture view, and maybe that means a whole new computer? OTOH, I'm not the type who has to have the best or new unless it would really make a difference. But, I'm not trying to make this into a thread about my computer, so I really just want to know about "video encoding.")

Thanks

adnoh · Feb 26, 2011, 05:27 PM

The difference is 1 minute 6 seconds

Buck987 · Feb 26, 2011, 05:49 PM

Miss Terri,
U
You are fine with what you have for a long while. Although the 8 mgs might be worth it.

Don't get caught up in the hype. Run those apps now and see for yourself.

Grouchy Bob · Feb 26, 2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Terri

So, my question: What is "video encoding"?

It's merely "rendering" your digital edit, from say FCE into the various formats for viewing. Or... converting an existing movie format to another.

The encoding process requires tons of "frame-by-frame" compression to keep the resultant size manageable which is why it's so CPU intensive.

Miss Terri · Feb 26, 2011, 06:20 PM

Thanks buckwheat987. Heh, I don't even like getting a new machine (too much trauma wondering if it will be a good one, etc.), and I'm still a bit caught up in it. Probably moreso because I just got this machine a short while ago and could maybe even exchange it for a new one. But then I think "Hmm, a new 13"? A 15" so I could get rid of the glossy screen? Forget movies and get an Air for portability?"

Heh, so I should probably just upgrade my RAM and not do anything more until I figure out what I would even want to change to, if I changed.

OTOH...

Grouchy Bob, Oh, so it's the same as rendering. Aha. Well I was with a friend over the holidays, and he was doing video stuff on a huge, whomping ASUS gaming machine (seriously, you could heat a room with the exhaust coming out the side vent - it was a beast) and even that took ages to render video. So I guess it is really demanding. I didn't realize that was the same as encoding.

Aaand, I'm not sure how "into it" I'm going to get, yet.

Thanks to both of you for the input, and to Funkymonk for the use of his thread

Miss Terri

Late 2010 MBP 13" - 2.4ghz - 4g RAM
Mid 2008 MB --- died
Early 2002 iBook 14" - 600mhz - 640m RAM --- still kicking!

Feb 26, 2011, 11:33 AM	#1
Funkymonk macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2011	whats the difference between the two 13"s? What will you feel the difference of speed in between the i5 and the i7? How much of a difference? Seconds or minutes? Worth the extra hundreds?
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Feb 26, 2011, 11:35 AM	#2
iPhoneCollector Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Home	it's a matter of hours. no really if you don't do some serious video encoding or something like that you are not able to notice any difference. i mean you could film it in slo-mo and wouldn't notice a difference in the playback Last edited by iPhoneCollector; Feb 26, 2011 at 11:36 AM. Reason: unfinished post
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Feb 26, 2011, 11:36 AM	#3
alust2013 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: On the fence	I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Seconds or minutes of what? If you're doing video encoding, sure you'll notice a difference, but if you're using it for standard uses, you likely won't notice a difference. __________________ a computer with some GHz and a few GB, some stuff to play music. -witty comment here-
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Feb 26, 2011, 06:20 PM	#8
Miss Terri macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: US East Coast	Thanks buckwheat987. Heh, I don't even like getting a new machine (too much trauma wondering if it will be a good one, etc.), and I'm still a bit caught up in it. Probably moreso because I just got this machine a short while ago and could maybe even exchange it for a new one. But then I think "Hmm, a new 13"? A 15" so I could get rid of the glossy screen? Forget movies and get an Air for portability?" Heh, so I should probably just upgrade my RAM and not do anything more until I figure out what I would even want to change to, if I changed. OTOH... Grouchy Bob, Oh, so it's the same as rendering. Aha. Well I was with a friend over the holidays, and he was doing video stuff on a huge, whomping ASUS gaming machine (seriously, you could heat a room with the exhaust coming out the side vent - it was a beast) and even that took ages to render video. So I guess it is really demanding. I didn't realize that was the same as encoding. Aaand, I'm not sure how "into it" I'm going to get, yet. Thanks to both of you for the input, and to Funkymonk for the use of his thread Miss Terri Late 2010 MBP 13" - 2.4ghz - 4g RAM Mid 2008 MB --- died Early 2002 iBook 14" - 600mhz - 640m RAM --- still kicking!
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