Bluetooth Enabled iPods?

MacRumors · 08:59 PM

Mac4Ever.com (French) publishes information from Bogdan Nedelcou, car product manager of Motorola, in a recent radio interview.

The interview with Nedelcou reveals that consumers will soon be able to listen to music wirelessly from their iPod through their car speakers. The upcoming wireless-capable iPod is expected to include Bluetooth technology.

Apple has also incorporated Bluetooth technology into its iBooks and PowerBooks.

Image from Apple Wireless Media Player Patent application

eliamx · 11:27 AM

I would love to see this happen. I'm tired of using those damn wires to connect my ipod via a tape deck. I want wireless!

brap · Feb 19, 2005, 08:05 AM

Wow. These slack-lipped execs are making some prime slips recently.

Knox · Feb 19, 2005, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brap

Wow. These slack-lipped execs are making some prime slips recently.

Yup, and you'd think Motorola of all companies would know Apple's opinion on revealing information too soon. He must be new

BillHarrison · Feb 19, 2005, 08:10 AM

Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window!

Bill

Poff · Feb 19, 2005, 08:14 AM

Hmm.. would have to be a future version of bluetooth, wouldn't it? Bluetooth works fine for streaming music in optimal conditions, but there are lot of disturbing signals on those frequencies.

I have yet to see a bluetooth-headset for music. Someone pointed me to a Sony-Ericsson thingie once, but it proved to be an mp3-player with built in bluetooth for it to work as a handsfree for your mobile phone.

Jalexster · Feb 19, 2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Poff

SNIP
I have yet to see a bluetooth-headset for music.
SNIP

HP makes one. It only works with iPaqs though. Several other companies make them. There is a Bluetooth profile for stereo headphones. I've seen a headset/headphones combination, that works with three profiles (headset and handsfree - for connecting to your phone, and headphones, for your mp3 player). The Headphones profile allows for for pausing music.

So this headset/headphones, auto pauses your buletooth enabled MP3 player automaticlly when you start a call, and unpauses it when the call ends. Very slick.

rtdgoldfish · Feb 19, 2005, 08:43 AM

Sounds good to me. Anything to give the iPod an edge over the rest of the MP3 players out there. Any word if this will be an accross the board feature or only on the higer-end models??

And I can see Steve at his WWDC keynote pulling out his new in-ear wireless headphones to introduce the new iPod

jwhitnah · Feb 19, 2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rtdgoldfish

Sounds good to me. Anything to give the iPod an edge over the rest of the MP3 players out there. Any word if this will be an accross the board feature or only on the higer-end models??

And I can see Steve at his WWDC keynote pulling out his new in-ear wireless headphones to introduce the new iPod

Syncing might be nice for the other iPod apps for contacts/calendar etc too.

jbembe · Feb 19, 2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rtdgoldfish

Sounds good to me. Anything to give the iPod an edge over the rest of the MP3 players out there. Any word if this will be an accross the board feature or only on the higer-end models??

And I can see Steve at his WWDC keynote pulling out his new in-ear wireless headphones to introduce the new iPod

This would be an exceptional thing for mountain bikers. No more cables to catch on trees, etc. Stick your shuffle somewhere relatively safe and let the BT Headphones jam!

Knox · Feb 19, 2005, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillHarrison

Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window!

I would be surprised if you could sync via bluetooth - it would be horribly slow. I expect it will be limited to listening to the iPod, so wireless headphones, wireless car adaptor, maybe a new Airport Express?

karellen · Feb 19, 2005, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Knox

I would be surprised if you could sync via bluetooth - it would be horribly slow. ...

What about syncing with Buetooth 2.0?

Which is now on the new Powerbooks.

corywoolf · Feb 19, 2005, 08:27 AM

I would rather just have a docking station built into a deck (CD Player). The audio quality will be good but not quiet the same as the ipod your bmw style kit. But I realize this will make it cheaper and more car companies will include it as a build to order option in the deck. Plus since the ipod changes every few months, It would suck if they put a built in dock in the car and it had a diff. connection a year later.

dongmin · Feb 19, 2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by corywoolf

I would rather just have a docking station built into a deck (CD Player). The audio quality will be good but not quiet the same as the ipod your bmw style kit. But I realize this will make it cheaper and more car companies will include it as a build to order option in the deck. Plus since the ipod changes every few months, It would suck if they put a built in dock in the car and it had a diff. connection a year later.

As you say, this solution lets the car interface with different ipod models with different dock connectors. Also, this opens the possibility for other devices, like your BT2.0-equipped PowerBook, to stream audio to your car stereo. So now, your kids can watch DVDs on your PB and listen to it over the car stereo.

Knox · Feb 19, 2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by karellen

What about syncing with Buetooth 2.0?

Which is now on the new Powerbooks.

384 kbytes/second theoretical with 2.0, so it would take 23 minutes to fully sync a 512MB iPod Shuffle. Might be tolerable if you only wanted to update a few songs, but if you were updating an iPod Photo you'd be quicker poping down to the store to buy a cable

zef · Feb 19, 2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Knox

384 kbytes/second theoretical with 2.0, so it would take 23 minutes to fully sync a 512MB iPod Shuffle. Might be tolerable if you only wanted to update a few songs, but if you were updating an iPod Photo you'd be quicker poping down to the store to buy a cable

From Apple's site:
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR

The new Apple PowerBook G4 portables are the first computers to offer Bluetooth 2.0+EDR. (Earlier aluminum and titanium PowerBook G4 models feature Bluetooth 1.x support.) Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, while still backwards-compatible with Bluetooth 1.x, is up to three times faster than its predecessors, offering a maximum data rate of 3Mbps. As the first company to certify a system supporting Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (enhanced data rate) specification with the Bluetooth Qualification Board, Apple continues to popularize Bluetooth technology.

That seems a lot faster to me, not?

jsw · Feb 19, 2005, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knox

384 kbytes/second theoretical with 2.0, so it would take 23 minutes to fully sync a 512MB iPod Shuffle. Might be tolerable if you only wanted to update a few songs, but if you were updating an iPod Photo you'd be quicker poping down to the store to buy a cable

Yeah, I really doubt that the BT option will be used for updating, merely for streaming. However, 384 kB/sec is wicked fast for that purpose - it could handle uncompressed music, no problem.

jwhitnah · Feb 19, 2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillHarrison

Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window!

Bill

How fast is Bluetooth?

Syncing would probably be great. You would probably want to initially load the iPod via firewire/USB2.

gadg · Feb 19, 2005, 08:47 AM

This might actually convince me to get an iPod. One of my main concerns (which is also why I'm so desperately awaiting the arrival of the Motorola iTunes phones - and i so hope it doesn't look as ugly as the E1060 presented earlier this week with it's freaky green edges) is that with an iPod blasting my eardrums out I won't hear my mobile phone ring. With some funky Bluetooth profile that warns and switches sources on a stereo headset I'd be laughing.

Ofcourse, then there is still the issue of carrying 2 devices around. Which is against my personal principles.

ryanw · Feb 20, 2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillHarrison

Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window!

Bill

Right... because iPods currently aren't selling well?

Lacero · Feb 20, 2005, 03:23 AM

Steve said they were working on a solution to the problem of controlling music streamed to Airport Express. Could a bluetooth iPod be the solution?

aswitcher · Feb 20, 2005, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacero

Steve said they were working on a solution to the problem of controlling music streamed to Airport Express. Could a bluetooth iPod be the solution?

Bluetooth and WiFi run in the same 2.4Ghz frequency spectrum but they are very different standards...I have never heard of them talking. I doubt very much that is possible.

The only solution in my mind if WiFi in iPods...

redeye be · Feb 20, 2005, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aswitcher

The only solution in my mind if WiFi in iPods...

or BT in AE (maybe via USB?)

.acronyms.

s10 · Feb 20, 2005, 04:00 AM

The article DOES NOT say apple will come out with buetooth iPods!

Motorolo will come out with a device that connects EXISTING iPods with your car stearo via bluetooth....

EssentialParado · Feb 20, 2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by s10

The article DOES NOT say apple will come out with buetooth iPods!

Motorolo will come out with a device that connects EXISTING iPods with your car stearo via bluetooth....

Lol. C'mon, this place is a dream forum. Let us dream, dammit!

Feb 19, 2005, 08:01 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Bluetooth Enabled iPods? Mac4Ever.com (French) publishes information from Bogdan Nedelcou, car product manager of Motorola, in a recent radio interview. The interview with Nedelcou reveals that consumers will soon be able to listen to music wirelessly from their iPod through their car speakers. The upcoming wireless-capable iPod is expected to include Bluetooth technology. Apple has also incorporated Bluetooth technology into its iBooks and PowerBooks. Image from Apple Wireless Media Player Patent application Attached Thumbnails Last edited by arn : Feb 20, 2005 at 08:59 PM.

Feb 19, 2005, 08:03 AM	#2
eliamx macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York City	Bluetooth Rocks I would love to see this happen. I'm tired of using those damn wires to connect my ipod via a tape deck. I want wireless! __________________ <i>Apple will enter the game console race, mark my words... ;-) Last edited by Doctor Q : Feb 19, 2005 at 11:27 AM.

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Feb 19, 2005, 08:14 AM	#6
Poff macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway	Hmm.. would have to be a future version of bluetooth, wouldn't it? Bluetooth works fine for streaming music in optimal conditions, but there are lot of disturbing signals on those frequencies. I have yet to see a bluetooth-headset for music. Someone pointed me to a Sony-Ericsson thingie once, but it proved to be an mp3-player with built in bluetooth for it to work as a handsfree for your mobile phone. __________________ A computer you had to learn how to use was a bad idea from its birth.

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rtdgoldfish macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Sounds good to me. Anything to give the iPod an edge over the rest of the MP3 players out there. Any word if this will be an accross the board feature or only on the higer-end models?? And I can see Steve at his WWDC keynote pulling out his new in-ear wireless headphones to introduce the new iPod __________________ Nothing to see here...Move along...

Feb 19, 2005, 08:10 AM	#5
BillHarrison macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2003	Plus syncing wirelessly is kinda nifty too. Come on apple, add a bigger color screen, and some pda functions, and this pocket pc can go out the window! Bill

Feb 19, 2005, 08:27 AM	#13
corywoolf macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2004	The audio quality wont be as good as the current dock connector I would rather just have a docking station built into a deck (CD Player). The audio quality will be good but not quiet the same as the ipod your bmw style kit. But I realize this will make it cheaper and more car companies will include it as a build to order option in the deck. Plus since the ipod changes every few months, It would suck if they put a built in dock in the car and it had a diff. connection a year later.

Feb 19, 2005, 08:47 AM	#19
gadg macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Amsterdam	This might actually convince me to get an iPod. One of my main concerns (which is also why I'm so desperately awaiting the arrival of the Motorola iTunes phones - and i so hope it doesn't look as ugly as the E1060 presented earlier this week with it's freaky green edges) is that with an iPod blasting my eardrums out I won't hear my mobile phone ring. With some funky Bluetooth profile that warns and switches sources on a stereo headset I'd be laughing. Ofcourse, then there is still the issue of carrying 2 devices around. Which is against my personal principles. __________________ the difference between men and boys, is the price of their toys

Feb 20, 2005, 03:23 AM	#21
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Steve said they were working on a solution to the problem of controlling music streamed to Airport Express. Could a bluetooth iPod be the solution?

Feb 20, 2005, 04:00 AM	#24
s10 macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles	people! read the article! or read the translation! The article DOES NOT say apple will come out with buetooth iPods! Motorolo will come out with a device that connects EXISTING iPods with your car stearo via bluetooth....

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