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MacBidouille: AMD, not G4
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This makes a lot of sense. I suspect we may see this transition far faster than we think. What if Apple were to announce an AMD powered Power Mac at MWSF? From a software standpoint it seems almost unthinkable, but if they've found some way to do it with a minimal impact..... hmmm....
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I'm going to wait until October or January to see exactly what the hell is going on over there. There's just so many cinflicting reports, IBM to announce desktop PowerPC, but it doesn't support Altivec, Apple created Marklar, an x86 version of OSX, all so confusing.🙁
edesignuk
Moderator emeritus
True, but it's because it seems like MB (I can never get the spelling right) just posts anything they sent. They seem to have gotten lucky on that one (if that's what you can call it 🙂
But it's still a fun rumor. Although I would personally prefer their last rumor over it. (Dual G4s)
Agreed. They're only shred of credibility comes from that pic, I don't think any of their other predictions have come true either. 🙂
sparkleytone
macrumors 68020
actually i believe it was macrumors that had the news of the latest g4 out first...BUT...the people who continue to give these forums a newfound bad name drove him off and flamed the hell out of him. wtg mr members.......
Mr. Anderson
Moderator emeritus
Ah, the rumors are causing a feeding frenzy again - I'm still waiting till October when IBM makes it statement concerning their Power4. There are just too many questions and no answers. The only thing that everyone agrees on is that the G4 needs to be replaced or drastically updated.
Googles translation of what I think you all are talking about:
I met many people yesterday, and I listened much.
although nothing still is official, it seems that APPLE is directed towards AMD to replace G4.
One spoke again me of Jaguar under X86.
In any event it seems that APPLE is directed towards a solution preventing any possibility of installing Mac OS X on a PC.
(I don't know French 😱)
From that I get no new information, just more pondering. The last line gives me the impression that the writer does not believe that Apple is going to go toward the x86 platform for OSX.
Anyway, did not Steve say himself that there will be faster versions of the current models next year? and that the G4 still has alot of life? His comments certainly don't point towards x86 in Apple systems, at least not for along time to come.
I think we should let this subject die for awhile (like the Apple PDA rumors) and wait for more tangible proof and/or information concerning the x86/Marklar rumor.
How about someone get a screenshot of "about this mac" with Athlon instead of G4 in it? Or maybe something less easily photoshopped, like a motherboard with Socket A connections and an Apple logo next to it 😉.
Lately my stomach has been making funny noises when ever 'marklar' related info is talked about... I guess I'll go to Costco and get some Pepto-Bismol so I can keep reading 😀.
-- bert 😎
I met many people yesterday, and I listened much.
although nothing still is official, it seems that APPLE is directed towards AMD to replace G4.
One spoke again me of Jaguar under X86.
In any event it seems that APPLE is directed towards a solution preventing any possibility of installing Mac OS X on a PC.
(I don't know French 😱)
From that I get no new information, just more pondering. The last line gives me the impression that the writer does not believe that Apple is going to go toward the x86 platform for OSX.
Anyway, did not Steve say himself that there will be faster versions of the current models next year? and that the G4 still has alot of life? His comments certainly don't point towards x86 in Apple systems, at least not for along time to come.
I think we should let this subject die for awhile (like the Apple PDA rumors) and wait for more tangible proof and/or information concerning the x86/Marklar rumor.
How about someone get a screenshot of "about this mac" with Athlon instead of G4 in it? Or maybe something less easily photoshopped, like a motherboard with Socket A connections and an Apple logo next to it 😉.
Lately my stomach has been making funny noises when ever 'marklar' related info is talked about... I guess I'll go to Costco and get some Pepto-Bismol so I can keep reading 😀.
-- bert 😎
To add more fuel to the fire...
I just saw an article on Cnet News that says the AMD Clawhammer will be released for manufacturers in the first quarter of 2003, about the same time as MWSF 2003.
Not that I'm taking this rumor too seriously, I'm just having fun with it. 😛
CLICK ME DAMMIT!
I just saw an article on Cnet News that says the AMD Clawhammer will be released for manufacturers in the first quarter of 2003, about the same time as MWSF 2003.
Not that I'm taking this rumor too seriously, I'm just having fun with it. 😛
CLICK ME DAMMIT!
alex_ant
macrumors 68020
If Apple is moving to AMD:
Why are they going to such pains to AltiVec-ize everything?
And why did they discontinue Logic for x86?
I can't understand why they wouldn't opt for that Power4 variant (if the recent rumor is to believed, which I don't think it is). It seems like the perfect chip for Apple.
Why are they going to such pains to AltiVec-ize everything?
And why did they discontinue Logic for x86?
I can't understand why they wouldn't opt for that Power4 variant (if the recent rumor is to believed, which I don't think it is). It seems like the perfect chip for Apple.
I you look at the first article on the page, you will see that in a reference to an interview with Apple France director J.R. Cazeneuve, he is quoted as saying Apple worked very well with Motorola on the G5.
Bet ya a million buck we get G5's early next year.
(no, I don't have a million bucks, but hey ho)
Bet ya a million buck we get G5's early next year.
(no, I don't have a million bucks, but hey ho)
sparkleytone
macrumors 68020
Re: If Apple is moving to AMD:
definitely a good call.
it would be just plain stupid. looks like we are either stuck with moto or IBM is having alot of fun teasing us with their new proc.
definitely a good call.
it would be just plain stupid. looks like we are either stuck with moto or IBM is having alot of fun teasing us with their new proc.
DakotaGuy
macrumors 601
Again this is stupid...
Look, Apple is focused on having an Alti-Vec processor, everything has been written for that, now people say the new IBM Power PC based on Power4 might not be Alti-Vec so therefore Apple will not use them. If Apple is so worried about having Alti-Vec, then why in the hell would they be now going to an x86 from AMD. If Apple goes AMD or Intel it would have to be an x86 processor. That is what they build and they are not going to build a small number of some special high tech processor just for Apple, sorry IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Okay lets say you guys are right and Apple says...yep an AMD Athlon for our PowerMacs in Jan...then what do you do with the "i" and "e" series. Do you continue on with them as a PPC with Alti-Vec and make the PowerMacs with an x86 AMD? HOLY MOLY what a confusing thing. We then have Macs that are not even compatible with each other, you then have to make different software for different computers. What about all the PPC Macs that are out there right now. How long do companies have to make different software for all different types of machines? If Apple goes to AMD it would not be a PowerPC, and for now changing chip arc. would make for lots of confusion.
There is still something called AIM and PowerPC and this is where the future Apple processors will come from. Intel and AMD are not going to plug huge amounts of money into designing an all new chip that is completely compatible with PPC considering Apples market share. If Apple goes x86 then they might as well stick Windows XP on their machines and go head to head with the rest of the PC mess.
Look, Apple is focused on having an Alti-Vec processor, everything has been written for that, now people say the new IBM Power PC based on Power4 might not be Alti-Vec so therefore Apple will not use them. If Apple is so worried about having Alti-Vec, then why in the hell would they be now going to an x86 from AMD. If Apple goes AMD or Intel it would have to be an x86 processor. That is what they build and they are not going to build a small number of some special high tech processor just for Apple, sorry IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Okay lets say you guys are right and Apple says...yep an AMD Athlon for our PowerMacs in Jan...then what do you do with the "i" and "e" series. Do you continue on with them as a PPC with Alti-Vec and make the PowerMacs with an x86 AMD? HOLY MOLY what a confusing thing. We then have Macs that are not even compatible with each other, you then have to make different software for different computers. What about all the PPC Macs that are out there right now. How long do companies have to make different software for all different types of machines? If Apple goes to AMD it would not be a PowerPC, and for now changing chip arc. would make for lots of confusion.
There is still something called AIM and PowerPC and this is where the future Apple processors will come from. Intel and AMD are not going to plug huge amounts of money into designing an all new chip that is completely compatible with PPC considering Apples market share. If Apple goes x86 then they might as well stick Windows XP on their machines and go head to head with the rest of the PC mess.
solvs
macrumors 603
It would have been nice to put OS X on my fairly new 1.3 AMD, or even the 1.6 P4 at work (if nothing else than to save the TORTURE that was my Win98/2000 install from HELL, freakin' M$. Now I can Crash twice as fast!). But we know that won't be happening anytime soon.
Can't wait to get a new Mac to replace my old one (that I no longer have BTW) after I move. Maybe a nice Cool (pun intended) iBook (c'mon 1 GHz G3 + 32 MB vid card), or an eMac to play with untill I can afford a new Tower. Who knows what we'll have by then?
GigaHertz, shmigahertz. If I can run FCP off of a 320 GB hard drive in almost real-time with out the crashing, I'll be happy.
Another couple of months.
We'll see what happens.
Can't wait to get a new Mac to replace my old one (that I no longer have BTW) after I move. Maybe a nice Cool (pun intended) iBook (c'mon 1 GHz G3 + 32 MB vid card), or an eMac to play with untill I can afford a new Tower. Who knows what we'll have by then?
GigaHertz, shmigahertz. If I can run FCP off of a 320 GB hard drive in almost real-time with out the crashing, I'll be happy.
Another couple of months.
We'll see what happens.
