Re: Tell me if I am wrong but.....
Originally posted by reyesmac
Aqua - The guy who wrote alot of the Apple UI guidlines had lots to complain about Aqua because it was designed by NeXt employees that didnt use many Mac OS UI elements. The original OS X is not as Mac-like as Jaguar and it still has a few upgrades to go. Conclusion, not made entirely by the Old Apple.
I think I know who you're referring to but I question the accuracy of any of his statements. They're always been one sided and I know I've seen in the past where many of his statements were heavily exagerated or flat out disproven by others. Can't remember where unfortunately.
Originally posted by reyesmac
Carbon & Classic Environment - Created by Apple to keep OS 9 alive long enough to get everybody to switch to the NeXt Mac OS.
Uh no kidding. These are arguably two of the most significant technologies in Mac OS X. Mac OS X would flat out be a failure without them. I find it funny that you seem to not want to give credit where it's due.
Originally posted by reyesmac
Rendevous - Also known as ZeroConf, an open source standard that nobody owns and Apple did not invent, they just thought of what to use it for and they thought of a cool name for it.
Apple has done alot of repackaging of technology and then marketed it as their own in some form. My understanding of Rendevous though is that it was based off of ZeroConf. It is Apple who is submitting it into open source. If you have info stating otherwise, I'd like to read it.
Originally posted by reyesmac
Quartz Extreme - Made by Apple because they want to use more quartz effects and the current hardware can't cut it by itself.
Correct.
Originally posted by reyesmac
CUPS - Open source printing standard adopted but not developed by Apple.
And not from NeXT.
Originally posted by reyesmac
Sherlock - Sherlock 3 is to Watson what Windows XP is to Mac OS X, a nice copy of the original which was a copy of the original.
Lets alter this to "Developed by Apple". I take it you're in the boat that considers Apple to have stolen this. Lots of products are built off of the same ideas and due to practical functionality they in turn tend to operate the same.
Originally posted by reyesmac
Bluetooth - Open standard
If you're going to bring up Bluetooth, you might as well throw in Airport(802.11b) or why not ethernet?
Originally posted by reyesmac
Technologies that Apple has developed recently would be:
All the iApps
ADC monitor connector
iPod
.Mac
Some of this would be incorrect. Some of iapps like imovie were purchased from other companies. I believe idvd was as well. Almost forgot about itunes.
And what of ical? I've yet to see anyone dispute that Apple didn't license or steal this product essentially away from Brown Bear Software.
http://www.brownbearsw.com/
Oh, and the ipod? Think again. Read this:
http://www.designchain.com/coverstory.asp?issue=summer02
Originally posted by reyesmac
Apple is more into refining open standards to work seemlessly with their computers. Taking something new and making it much better. Or taking last years Powermac technology and repackaging it and calling it an iMac.
All of this is fine because they are only one company and cannot be expected to produce a computer for every kind of computer user. But I will say that this new Apple is very cool but they still need to get their hardware as advanced as their software is. They made a deal with NeXtstep to give us the future of Operating systems, I hope they are making a deal with IBM to give us the future of hardware.
You're talking pure performance when talking about hardware. Otherwise they're hardware is topnotch and much has been innovative. Xserve was the first 1U server with dual processors. Look at the case designs of all of the PowerMacs since the B&W G3's for ease of maintenance. The adjustable display of the lcd imac. Integration of the antenna into all of the products for 802.11b. I'm sure there are more. You're really talking more about implementation and not really repackaging. Do you criticize car manufacturers also for still giving us 4 wheels to have to drive on?
Originally posted by reyesmac
As far as weeping over OS 9, I don't think many people will once they get their hands on some new equipment. But until the majority of Mac users which are made up of people with G3's and less get that new gear, it is going to feel kind of strange knowing the machine you love to use everyday and does most of what you need to do is really obsolite. At least Microshaft is kind enough to show you how useless your PC is when you try to run the lates MS OS by making your PC run as slow as cold syrup.
Lets not spread false information. I've supported in a heavily used lab environment P5-133's with 80MB and 2GB HD's that were equipped with Win2k to do nothing but browse the web and take notes on. They worked fine for their intended use and never crashed. I don't see anyone doing the same with Mac OS X on 133Mhz 601's or 603's.
As for obsolete machines there are only two ways to look at it. Everything is obsolete right after you buy it or it's not obsolete until it is no longer of any practical use. Most follow the first while I stick with the latter. I love technology but keeping up with the Jone's is too unproductive and costly. That is a big part why Classic and Carbon came to be...it wasn't just for the developers. Software is expensive to keep updating.
At any rate I still feel your trying to put a slant on this whole era thing that doesn't fit. This is merely an evolution. Even you are providing those facts by stating that Jaguar has become more "Mac-like". Apple isn't stupid...at least not like they used to be.
