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Apple Developing New Palmtop Mac?
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AirUncleP said:
I recently purchased a graphics tablet, and when it's plugged in, I have the option of enabling Inkwell. Of course, at a desk with a keyboard, it's much easier just to type, especially because Inkwell is not too easy to use (though easier than the standard Palm text squigglies).
Something like the Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy (the e-book they show in the trailer) would be pretty cool!
I'm torn on this news. On one hand I think it's a cool idea. I've always liked PDAs and their potential, espeically if you combine this with Apple's newfound love of Motorola.... 
However these devices aren't nearly as hot as they used to be. However Blackberries are doing well so maybe it's a variation on that theme?
However these devices aren't nearly as hot as they used to be. However Blackberries are doing well so maybe it's a variation on that theme?
I had a palm ( visor neo) and a pocket pc,(toshiba 7 something) both of them last about 2 months before i just gave up.... their nice but on the pee-cee side of it it stinks. if i had in on my mac and had it sync with ical that would be nice, but i don't have loads of stuff in ical either.
I think that the palmtop computer has always been an idea ahead of the available tech, starting with the Newton and right on through the current offerings. I've been using a Palm for years. They are handy, but I always think that they don't quite do enough, or that the unit is too dang clunky for what it does. Not quite right.
I would love for someone to put a powerful device into a small package. Frankly, I'm excited about the PSP. While I'll mostly use it for games, I can see how the WiFi capabilities, along with the leaked news of web browser, email, and Office-type apps, would make it convenient in places where a laptop is cumbersome. Add in the ability to listen to some tunes and watch movies, and all it won't do is make phone calls...yet. Not saying the PSP is the answer, but perhaps it's success in areas beyond games will inspire others, like Apple, to push the boundaries.
I would love for someone to put a powerful device into a small package. Frankly, I'm excited about the PSP. While I'll mostly use it for games, I can see how the WiFi capabilities, along with the leaked news of web browser, email, and Office-type apps, would make it convenient in places where a laptop is cumbersome. Add in the ability to listen to some tunes and watch movies, and all it won't do is make phone calls...yet. Not saying the PSP is the answer, but perhaps it's success in areas beyond games will inspire others, like Apple, to push the boundaries.
I love my BlackBerry, but for it's communication abilities, not for it's PDA capabilities. If this is basically a palm with OS X, I (probably) won't be interested. But if it comes with communication capabilities, similar to the BlackBerry... I'll be all over it like white on rice.
Raven VII said:
I love the blackberry. My dad has one for work. its such a great way to get in touch with him. but the PDA aspect is so-so.
Anyone like the Treo by palm. it seems cool, but a bit big and won't sync with .mac mail
Page 2 indeed..
Has PowerPage gotten anything right in the last 3 years? 5 years? Doesn't seem worthwhile posting anything from them without another source..
Has PowerPage gotten anything right in the last 3 years? 5 years? Doesn't seem worthwhile posting anything from them without another source..
A new Newton would be awesome... Then again, a 12" PowerBook is wicked small in its self, almost makes this seem dumb.
It's the rumor that just won't die.
While I'd love to see another Newton, I really doubt this is true. The handheld market has gotten cold recently, as evidenced by Sony's withdrawal. Steve has already said 'no' (wasn't it last summer at some sort of conference where a reporter asked him about an Apple PDA?). And last but not least, the Newton was one of the first things, if not the first, that SJ killed off after returning to Apple. I don't see him with too much enthusiasm for a Newton-like device.
I've got a few more points, but this has been hashed and re-hashed so many times, I'll quit now.
While I'd love to see another Newton, I really doubt this is true. The handheld market has gotten cold recently, as evidenced by Sony's withdrawal. Steve has already said 'no' (wasn't it last summer at some sort of conference where a reporter asked him about an Apple PDA?). And last but not least, the Newton was one of the first things, if not the first, that SJ killed off after returning to Apple. I don't see him with too much enthusiasm for a Newton-like device.
I've got a few more points, but this has been hashed and re-hashed so many times, I'll quit now.
Why a palmtop Mac would be useful
I don't believe it. There COULD well be such a thing in the labs, but I bet it stays there. It will be a long time before a really GOOD device could be made at the right price. (Maybe someday.)
That said, I'd buy some kind of pocket Mac for sure, at the right price And not just because it would be fun and cool. It would be USEFUL.
Something small but able to do anything JUST IN CASE you need it. Sometimes you leave the house knowing you'll probably need to do some heavy-duty computing--editing photos, building web pages, 3D rendering, video effects, writing a paper, etc. So when you know you'll need a FULL-size laptop, you can take one with you! But what about the other times, when you expect you're less likely to need those things--and therefore wouldn't bother lugging any full laptop? Then what happens when you unexpectedly need--or want--your files? Your apps? Your email? Your games? Your client proposals? Your vacation photos? What if you suddenly need to check movie times, retrieve email, or look at the weather via your cell-phone and Bluetooth Internet? Or play a WiFi LAN game of UTX from sheer boredom? What if you need to make a little change in Photoshop or Final Cut, and not have to drive to the office?
With a palmtop Mac, IF something comes up, you can do what you need to do. The small screen may not be ideal, but it will get the job done--instead of leaving you with nothing.
I don't believe it. There COULD well be such a thing in the labs, but I bet it stays there. It will be a long time before a really GOOD device could be made at the right price. (Maybe someday.)
That said, I'd buy some kind of pocket Mac for sure, at the right price
And not just because it would be fun and cool. It would be USEFUL.Something small but able to do anything JUST IN CASE you need it. Sometimes you leave the house knowing you'll probably need to do some heavy-duty computing--editing photos, building web pages, 3D rendering, video effects, writing a paper, etc. So when you know you'll need a FULL-size laptop, you can take one with you! But what about the other times, when you expect you're less likely to need those things--and therefore wouldn't bother lugging any full laptop? Then what happens when you unexpectedly need--or want--your files? Your apps? Your email? Your games? Your client proposals? Your vacation photos? What if you suddenly need to check movie times, retrieve email, or look at the weather via your cell-phone and Bluetooth Internet? Or play a WiFi LAN game of UTX from sheer boredom? What if you need to make a little change in Photoshop or Final Cut, and not have to drive to the office?
With a palmtop Mac, IF something comes up, you can do what you need to do. The small screen may not be ideal, but it will get the job done--instead of leaving you with nothing.
TMA said:
I think iBook Mini hits the nail on the head, since as the article pointed out it goes with their "Mini" theme. I think they should market it as a sub-notebook though, not as a PDA. Hmm...maybe they revive the G3 or use some other low-power Moto chip?
I picture something like this:
low-power G3 running at 800MHz (gotta have at least 5 or 6 hours battery life)
6" to 8" Widescreen Display (touchscreen). At least 640 pixels wide.
Full qwerty keyboard
1 or 2 USB ports (possibly also FireWire)
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi enabled (same setup as Mac mini)
1.8" Hard drive at 20GB or 40GB
1 RAM slot, up to 1GB (laptop memory)
small external video connector (same as iBooks)
not sure about video card, but something with 32MB VRAM and ability to run full-fledged OSX and drive and
NO optical drive
Under 2lbs. weight
Omitting the optical drive and using a 1.8" hard drive will allow the unit to be quite a bit smaller than he Mac Mini. As with the iPod mini when it first came out, it would not be that much cheaper than the cheapest iBook. (especially considering the expensive hardware like touchscreen and 1.8" drive). So maybe something like this could sell for $800 initially?
As with the iPod mini, I think there would definitely be a market for it. It would be the size of a small paperback book so we're talking a whole new level of portability. It could be marketed to students or mobile professionals that just need a machine to take notes, edit documents, surf the web, send email, etc. And the bluetooth and external display connector mean that you can use it as a full-fledged computer at your desk at your dormroom or office.
I don't think Apple is working on a PDA. But they might be working on an ultra portable notebook.
As this comes from the "EU Bureau" they might have misinterpreted as rumor our real project which aims at exactly what they tell: http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=QuantumSTEP - but we are not related to Apple - just Mac-Enthusiasts.Yonizzle said:
And we are doing that only because we believe that there *is* still a demand for devices compatible to MacOS X not only in look and feel (as theming would provide) but also in API, data formats, way of handling things. E.g. what about copying the address book or calendar files to the handheld device by drag&drop and simply use them? No worry about Syncing?
-- hns
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