Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.3.9 7W77

MacRumors · Mar 10, 2005, 01:19 AM

Wednesday night, Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.9 7W77 to developers. The new seed appears to only contain minor changes to the latest OS X revision with bug fixes for audio drivers, firewire video capture performance improvements, and wake from sleep fixes.

Areas of testing include AFPServer file transfers, BlueTooth, DVD Player, Date and Time
Utilities, FireWire devices, Fonts, Mail, iDisk Syncing, Modems (internal and external), Networking, Printing, Safari, Sleep tests, Terminal, USB Devices, and general system usability & reliability.

The previous seed (7W72) was issued on Feb 26th.

Speculation on the release as well as the final Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) release remain active topics of conversation amongst the Mac faithful. Tiger will be a major topic for developers at WWDC 2005 which takes place between June 6-10 in San Francisco.

quackattack · Mar 10, 2005, 01:22 AM

Lets hurry up and get 10.3.9 out. The way I see it this is just one step closer to Tiger! At this rate I probably wouldn't expect a 10.3.10.

DMann · Mar 10, 2005, 01:24 AM

10.3.998 -- !!!

AmigoMac · Mar 10, 2005, 01:25 AM

wow, pretty fast I guess, nevermind... 10.3.10 here we go and ... Tigerrrr!! Have had some Bluetooth issues when I change network locations continuously , Steve, I mean, apple received a feedback from me already...

Demon Hunter · Mar 10, 2005, 01:27 AM

No OpenGL tuning? *sniff*

C'mon tiger... rowr...

Steven1621 · Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM

It seems pretty clear to me and most others here that we can expect Tiger at WWDC. If I recall correctly, wouldn't developers get a "gold master" edition before it comes out to the public? We would know if that was the case, so it is safe to say the present time frame points to June/WWDC.

~loserman~ · Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM

Im ready for this update....
The new ethernet driver alone will make it worth it.

MegaSignal · Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM

Gawd - ya think?

One would've hoped that by now all that "wake from sleep" trouble would have been fixed by now.

Perhaps in Tiger they will be. Either that or we'll be starting all over again from scratch. <shudder>

~loserman~ · Mar 10, 2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaSignal

Gawd - ya think?

One would've hoped that by now all that "wake from sleep" trouble would have been fixed by now.

Perhaps in Tiger they will be. Either that or we'll be starting all over again from scratch. <shudder>

Count on starting over....

cyanide · Mar 10, 2005, 01:58 AM

yeh ill be there in the morning, just give me a call and let me know that you actually got up. yep. yeh no problem. okay, g'night. haha... whatever, i won't be late i promise. yeh.. i know which restaraunt. just call me, dork. lol. love you too. good night.

tmornini · Mar 10, 2005, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaSignal

One would've hoped that by now all that "wake from sleep" trouble would have been fixed by now.

You know what's weird?

I've had approximately zero wake from sleep issues, or any other issues not universally present (SMB networking, for instance), in previous builds of OS X.

Until 10.3.8. I've locked up twice waking from sleep since it was installed.

Funny that 10.3.8 had fixes for a problem I had never experienced, and the fixes made me experience the original problem!

Well, at least they poked it good and hard. When chasing an intermittent bug, it's one of the best ways to get a handle on the problem.

Mac-Xpert · Mar 10, 2005, 03:49 AM

I haven't seen any mentioning of the G5 fan-noise / fan behavior issue in this update. Does anyone know if this is fixed in 10.3.9? If it isn't I won't update. The 2.5 GHz G5 is noisy enough already in 10.3.4 that I'm currently running. I really don't like to get the increased noise that 10.3.8 seems to introduce.

Mitthrawnuruodo · Mar 10, 2005, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaSignal

One would've hoped that by now all that "wake from sleep" trouble would have been fixed by now.

Perhaps in Tiger they will be. Either that or we'll be starting all over again from scratch. <shudder>

You probably gonna have to start from scratch... but possibly with a new and totally unforseen problem...

Bear · Mar 10, 2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven1621

It seems pretty clear to me and most others here that we can expect Tiger at WWDC. If I recall correctly, wouldn't developers get a "gold master" edition before it comes out to the public? We would know if that was the case, so it is safe to say the present time frame points to June/WWDC.

The developers might not get told that a release was a candidate for the golden master until after it was decided. And as I recall - for Jaguar and Panther, there were rumors/leaks/hints when the release candidates started happening.

Another clue to impending release is when the beta releases start having very small increments between the version numbers. For example, with 10.3.9 with the build going from 7W72 to 7W77 it seems to indicate 10.3.9 could happen within a couple of weeks, especially if the next build sent to developers is 7W78 or 7W79.

So while this lack of information points to an announcement 2 to3 months away, it could happen sooner.

ziwi · Mar 10, 2005, 09:05 AM

Quick seeds - something is up - Tiger may be out sooner than WWDC.

Bear · Mar 10, 2005, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziwi

Quick seeds - something is up - Tiger may be out sooner than WWDC.

This is 10.3.9 seeds and not ones for Tiger. You have to look at Tiger seeds to even fake a conclusion about when Tiger will be released, never mind drawing real conclusions.

AppleAce · Mar 10, 2005, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac-Xpert

I haven't seen any mentioning of the G5 fan-noise / fan behavior issue in this update. Does anyone know if this is fixed in 10.3.9? If it isn't I won't update. The 2.5 GHz G5 is noisy enough already in 10.3.4 that I'm currently running. I really don't like to get the increased noise that 10.3.8 seems to introduce.

Did you ever install the 10.3.8 update on your machine? Or haven't you because of what you've read in the forums? From what I've read, it's the Dual 2.0's that are having the problems. The 2.5 owners have said that 10.3.8 fixed their fans. I have a DP 2.5 G5, and 10.3.8 made my fans the quietest they've ever been. When I ran Seti@Home with 10.3.4-10.3.7 the fans would almost constantly rev up and down and up and down ever 10 seconds or so. But with 10.3.8 the only time the fans come up is when i first start Folding or open Seti, the initial ramp up from 0 processor load to 100%. But after that, the fans quiet back down to their previous state.

If you are able to clone your hard drive, so you have something to revert to, and you have the time to spare, I would suggest that you install the 10.3.8 update if you haven't already tried it.

zanuzan · Mar 10, 2005, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AppleAce

Did you ever install the 10.3.8 update on your machine? Or haven't you because of what you've read in the forums? From what I've read, it's the Dual 2.0's that are having the problems. The 2.5 owners have said that 10.3.8 fixed their fans. I have a DP 2.5 G5, and 10.3.8 made my fans the quietest they've ever been. When I ran Seti@Home with 10.3.4-10.3.7 the fans would almost constantly rev up and down and up and down ever 10 seconds or so. But with 10.3.8 the only time the fans come up is when i first start Folding or open Seti, the initial ramp up from 0 processor load to 100%. But after that, the fans quiet back down to their previous state.

If you are able to clone your hard drive, so you have something to revert to, and you have the time to spare, I would suggest that you install the 10.3.8 update if you haven't already tried it.

Well 10.3.8 made my dual 2.5 louder than hell. Switching my processor performance to maximum helped a bit but 10.3.7 was much quieter.

cheers

AppleAce · Mar 10, 2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanuzan

Well 10.3.8 made my dual 2.5 louder than hell. Switching my processor performance to maximum helped a bit but 10.3.7 was much quieter.

cheers

Ah, well you're the first one whom I've read about having fan problems with a 2.5 from 10.3.8. I guess it is possible

Lord Bodak · Mar 10, 2005, 12:56 PM

10.3.8 didn't fix the low battery warning-- my PowerBook still just goes to sleep on its own with no warning when the battery gets low enough. This was introduced in 10.3.6 or 10.3.7, can't remember... but I'm amazed 10.3.8 didn't fix it. I sure hope 10.3.9 does.

mcdermd · Mar 10, 2005, 01:18 PM

If this finally fixes my PB panic, lockup and non-responsiveness when waking from sleep, I'll be a happy guy.

Plymouthbreezer · Mar 10, 2005, 04:12 PM

I'd rather wait a bit longer for the GM Tiger - Spotlight is still taking waaaay too long to index!

e-coli · Mar 10, 2005, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmornini

Funny that 10.3.8 had fixes for a problem I had never experienced, and the fixes made me experience the original problem!

Ever since 10.3.8 neither my G5 nor my AlumiBook will go to sleep on their own.

Anyone else have this issue...it's terribly annoying.

wdlove · Mar 10, 2005, 04:43 PM

Would prefer that they don't rush the 10.3.9. It would be best to fix as many bugs as possible

Lacero · Mar 10, 2005, 06:51 PM

Each new update brings on a whole new set of problems. Anyone remember 10.2.8 and the disaster that was firewire?

Mar 10, 2005, 01:19 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.3.9 7W77 Wednesday night, Apple seeded Mac OS X 10.3.9 7W77 to developers. The new seed appears to only contain minor changes to the latest OS X revision with bug fixes for audio drivers, firewire video capture performance improvements, and wake from sleep fixes. Areas of testing include AFPServer file transfers, BlueTooth, DVD Player, Date and Time Utilities, FireWire devices, Fonts, Mail, iDisk Syncing, Modems (internal and external), Networking, Printing, Safari, Sleep tests, Terminal, USB Devices, and general system usability & reliability. The previous seed (7W72) was issued on Feb 26th. Speculation on the release as well as the final Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) release remain active topics of conversation amongst the Mac faithful. Tiger will be a major topic for developers at WWDC 2005 which takes place between June 6-10 in San Francisco.

Mar 10, 2005, 01:22 AM	#2
quackattack macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boise, ID	Lets hurry up and get 10.3.9 out. The way I see it this is just one step closer to Tiger! At this rate I probably wouldn't expect a 10.3.10. __________________ Alum iMac 24" 2.8, 4GB RAM Powerbook 15" G4 1.5 iPhone / 5G iPod / TV "Be true to yourself, if it lands you in hell at least now you know."

Mar 10, 2005, 01:24 AM	#3
DMann macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 10023	Tiger on the Horizon 10.3.998 -- !!! __________________ Think Different - Innovate

Mar 10, 2005, 01:25 AM	#4
AmigoMac macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: l'Allemagne	wow, pretty fast I guess, nevermind... 10.3.10 here we go and ... Tigerrrr!! Have had some Bluetooth issues when I change network locations continuously , Steve, I mean, apple received a feedback from me already... __________________ No Mac no fun...

Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM	#6
Steven1621 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Connecticut (Ankara, Turkey for the next year)	It seems pretty clear to me and most others here that we can expect Tiger at WWDC. If I recall correctly, wouldn't developers get a "gold master" edition before it comes out to the public? We would know if that was the case, so it is safe to say the present time frame points to June/WWDC. __________________ -15" MacBook Pro, 2.4 GHz, 200 GB HD, 4 GB RAM -Dell 20" 2005FPW -16 GB iPod Touch -Nikon D40 w/ Nikkor 18-200mm VR

Mar 10, 2005, 01:27 AM	#5
Demon Hunter macrumors 68020 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN	No OpenGL tuning? sniff C'mon tiger... rowr...

Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM	#7
~loserman~ macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Land flowing with Milk and Honey	Im ready for this update.... The new ethernet driver alone will make it worth it.

Mar 10, 2005, 01:38 AM	#8
MegaSignal macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2003	"...and wake from sleep fixes." Gawd - ya think? One would've hoped that by now all that "wake from sleep" trouble would have been fixed by now. Perhaps in Tiger they will be. Either that or we'll be starting all over again from scratch. <shudder>

Mar 10, 2005, 01:58 AM	#10
cyanide macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago	yeh ill be there in the morning, just give me a call and let me know that you actually got up. yep. yeh no problem. okay, g'night. haha... whatever, i won't be late i promise. yeh.. i know which restaraunt. just call me, dork. lol. love you too. good night. __________________ Using a Mac is like getting to eat your favorite burger at your favorite restaurant. It's big and juicy, seasoned and grilled perfectly, with all the right trimmings and on a fresh-baked bun. Sure you could use a Wintel, the cheap 89 cent burger from McD's, with its lackluster appeal and unsatisfying taste, but we only live once...

Mar 10, 2005, 03:49 AM	#12
Mac-Xpert macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Netherlands	Fan noise being addressed? I haven't seen any mentioning of the G5 fan-noise / fan behavior issue in this update. Does anyone know if this is fixed in 10.3.9? If it isn't I won't update. The 2.5 GHz G5 is noisy enough already in 10.3.4 that I'm currently running. I really don't like to get the increased noise that 10.3.8 seems to introduce. __________________ Work: PowerMac G5 2.5 Ghz Home: Intel iMac 24" 2Gb - 500 Gb

Mar 10, 2005, 09:05 AM	#15
ziwi macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Right back where I started...	Quick seeds - something is up - Tiger may be out sooner than WWDC.

Mar 10, 2005, 12:56 PM	#20
Lord Bodak macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA USA	10.3.8 didn't fix the low battery warning-- my PowerBook still just goes to sleep on its own with no warning when the battery gets low enough. This was introduced in 10.3.6 or 10.3.7, can't remember... but I'm amazed 10.3.8 didn't fix it. I sure hope 10.3.9 does.

Mar 10, 2005, 01:18 PM	#21
mcdermd macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2004	If this finally fixes my PB panic, lockup and non-responsiveness when waking from sleep, I'll be a happy guy.

Mar 10, 2005, 04:12 PM	#22
Plymouthbreezer macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Massachusetts	I'd rather wait a bit longer for the GM Tiger - Spotlight is still taking waaaay too long to index! __________________ MacBook Pro C2D 2.2GHz \| iMac G4 1GHz \| PowerBook G3 500MHz \| MacClassic 68000 8 MHz Nikon D70s \| Nikon D50 \| Minolta XG-1 35mm

Mar 10, 2005, 04:43 PM	#24
wdlove macrumors 604 Join Date: Oct 2002	Would prefer that they don't rush the 10.3.9. It would be best to fix as many bugs as possible __________________ First MacRumors "Contributor"

Mar 10, 2005, 06:51 PM	#25
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Each new update brings on a whole new set of problems. Anyone remember 10.2.8 and the disaster that was firewire?

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