27-Inch iMac Core i7 With SSD Is Fastest Mac Ever - Page 2

odinsride · Jun 15, 2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iBug2

iMac would still win on non-parallel tasks. It has a newer generation CPU +chipset with higher clockspeed.

No

iMaci7 · Jun 15, 2011, 01:33 PM

Awesome!!!! This is the Mac im planning to get (my first one)!

bwillwall · Jun 15, 2011, 01:34 PM

Holy.......................****

iBug2 · Jun 15, 2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinsride

No

Yes. If you read the article carefully it says that it beat Mac Pro on iTunes encoding test as well, which has nothing to do with drive speed.

chrmjenkins · Jun 15, 2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by odinsride

No

Yesx2 ^

roland.g · Jun 15, 2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robeddie

Bingo.

It's just a measure of how the SSD outstrips the standard hard drive (gee, news flash!).

Me, I'll stick with the 2gigs of standard internal hard drive space in my iMac 21.5. I'll take massive hd space over ssd speed any day.

Now ... if only I could have both ... hmmm.

I was planning on getting a 27" standard 2.7 i5. But I keeping thinking the SSD + HDD would be real nice. This just increases the appeal. But several factors. Cost. The thing just sits there most of the day. I don't earn my keep on the thing. It gets tougher to justify spending money on things like that when they spend so much time being idle. Looking to go back to school so educational discounts could lessen the upgrade costs, but it is still more than I would want to spend for the performance.

Apple... · Jun 15, 2011, 01:36 PM

I would really love to get one of these machines (and upgrade from a 2007 Mac Pro), but I'm thinking the 27 inch model is much too big. Any suggestions?

deannnnn · Jun 15, 2011, 01:37 PM

Anyone want to see a video of my 2004 iMac G5 opening all of its apps? It's not quite as exciting.

Sjhonny · Jun 15, 2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by arn

It's not the fastest "iMac" ever, it's the fastest "Mac" ever.

arn

In some tasks ... quite misleading title, since it uses a SSD, instead of a HDD like in the mac pro they are comparing with ...

mrfoof82 · Jun 15, 2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by robeddie

Bingo.

It's just a measure of how the SSD outstrips the standard hard drive (gee, news flash!).

Me, I'll stick with the 2gigs of standard internal hard drive space in my iMac 21.5. I'll take massive hd space over ssd speed any day.

Now ... if only I could have both ... hmmm.

Uh, you can.

Most of the people who ordered SSD-equipped iMacs on the Shipment Tracker got a 1TB or 2TB internal 3.5" drive with the 256GB SSD (~94% got a 3.5" disk with the SSD). My 27" will have the 256GB Toshiba HG3 and a 2TB 7200rpm internal 3.5" drive.

macnisse · Jun 15, 2011, 01:39 PM

iMac > Mac pro = good value for money!

kazmac · Jun 15, 2011, 01:39 PM

I'd happily wait for the Mac Pro. Great for folks looking for more horse power now and who can deal with Apple's $*(#@# displays etc.

roland.g · Jun 15, 2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sjhonny

In some tasks ... quite misleading title, since it uses a SSD, instead of a HDD like in the mac pro they are comparing with ...

Just to clarify -> from the MacWorld article.

Quote:

Lab Report: Core i7 SSD iMac is the fastest Mac we've tested

Dagless · Jun 15, 2011, 01:40 PM

I've almost always been behind with my computers till I splashed out on the best 27" iMac the retail Apple Store offered. So glad to see it on that list! It's such a beast of a machine and it's not even an i7 with SSD. I can't imagine a faster machine (with todays OS+apps).

ratzzo · Jun 15, 2011, 01:41 PM

Long gone are the days when you had to wait a minute for a program to open. Ah, the windows 95 days... no, I don't miss them

iMaci7 · Jun 15, 2011, 01:42 PM

The 27" iMac also has a very impressive GPU. The HD6970M screams - 28FPS Crysis 1980x1050 on 'Very High'. Thats on-par with a GTX 285.

Sjhonny · Jun 15, 2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by roland.g

Just to clarify -> from the MacWorld article.

Well look at the macrumors title

there is a BTO option for a SSD in the Six-core mac pro, so this is a misleading title

kevin2i · 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by arn

It's not the fastest "iMac" ever, it's the fastest "Mac" ever.

arn

Well, this is really silly, since it does not compare the current Mac Pro.

Faster than a 12 core? In real-life doubtful. Especially if you slap in a few SSD in raid zero.

Benchmarks are not the full story. My MBP is 80% as fast in benchmarks as my Mac Pro, but in real life (such as rendering video) the Pro is better than twice as fast.

cms2 · Jun 15, 2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deannnnn

Anyone want to see a video of my 2004 iMac G5 opening all of its apps? It's not quite as exciting.

hah hah hah! Man, I feel you!

That video was very impressive. I even showed it to my wife who is normally pretty non-plussed by the tech stuff I show her, and she said "wow! now that's what I need!"

I'm still pretty happy with my 2007 mbp, but when it comes time to replace it, I'm feeling a 27" iMac...

justinfreid · Jun 15, 2011, 01:49 PM

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Good question. I think the benchmarking should be done by class: base configuration, factory custom configuration, after-market config, Hackintosh, mobile/desktop/server for each of the above, etc.

holmesf · 03:34 PM

It's the fastest Mac ever, except that it's not.

About 1/2 of the Macworld tests are hard drive intensive tests (duplicating files, importing files, zipping files, etc). Of course the SSD based iMac will outperform the Mac Pro on these tests.

Comparing the CPU/memory performance instead and you'll find that the iMac gets a geekbench score of 11648, while the Mac Pro gets an astounding score of 24262.

What's even more deceptive is that the SSD in the iMac is not even a high performer (220MB/s read 180MB/s write) -- it's simply better than a stock hard drive. For the same price ($500 BTO upgrade vs $550 total cost) you could get a 3rd party SSD from OWC that gets 559MB/s read and 527MB/s write.

Heck, any Mac that supports SATA III and had an OWC Mercury Extreme 6g installed would be declared the "fastest Mac ever" according to these messed up Macworld tests.

edit: Macworld compared the 2011 iMac against the 6-core Mac Pro, making the headline "Fastest Mac Ever" even more ridiculous.

Icaras · Jun 15, 2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin2i

Well, this is really silly. since it doe not compare the current Mac Pro.

Faster than a 12 core? In real-life doubtful. Especially if you slap in a few SSD in raid zero.

Benchmarks are not the full story. My MBP is 80% as fast in benchmarks as my Mac Pro, but in real life (such as rendering video) the Pro is better than twice as fast.

You need to re-read the article again.

nagromme · Jun 15, 2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apple...

I would really love to get one of these machines (and upgrade from a 2007 Mac Pro), but I'm thinking the 27 inch model is much too big. Any suggestions?

Yes:

1. 27” is WAY too big.

2. Which is awesome! Get one!

larrylaffer · Jun 15, 2011, 01:55 PM

I'd like to see it take on my dual 6-core Mac Pro I just got, seeing as mine has 3 striped SSDs.

captan · Jun 15, 2011, 01:58 PM

If anything, this is is saying that an SSD is a crucial upgrade to any mac, including the Mac Pro.

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Jun 15, 2011, 01:39 PM	#37
kazmac macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2010	if I were in the situation where I needed that power I'd happily wait for the Mac Pro. Great for folks looking for more horse power now and who can deal with Apple's $*(#@# displays etc.
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:40 PM	#39
Dagless macrumors Core Join Date: Jan 2005	I've almost always been behind with my computers till I splashed out on the best 27" iMac the retail Apple Store offered. So glad to see it on that list! It's such a beast of a machine and it's not even an i7 with SSD. I can't imagine a faster machine (with todays OS+apps). __________________ Maybe if everyone who'd ever been close to you had died, you'd be sarcastic, too. Also come join us Steam users!
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:33 PM	#27
iMaci7 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2011	Awesome!!!! This is the Mac im planning to get (my first one)!
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:34 PM	#28
bwillwall macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2009	Holy.......................****
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:41 PM	#40
ratzzo macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Madrid	Long gone are the days when you had to wait a minute for a program to open. Ah, the windows 95 days... no, I don't miss them __________________ 15" MBP \| Nexus 4 \| iPad 4
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:42 PM	#41
iMaci7 macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2011	The 27" iMac also has a very impressive GPU. The HD6970M screams - 28FPS Crysis 1980x1050 on 'Very High'. Thats on-par with a GTX 285.
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:52 PM	#46
holmesf macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2001	It's the fastest Mac ever, except that it's not. About 1/2 of the Macworld tests are hard drive intensive tests (duplicating files, importing files, zipping files, etc). Of course the SSD based iMac will outperform the Mac Pro on these tests. Comparing the CPU/memory performance instead and you'll find that the iMac gets a geekbench score of 11648, while the Mac Pro gets an astounding score of 24262. What's even more deceptive is that the SSD in the iMac is not even a high performer (220MB/s read 180MB/s write) -- it's simply better than a stock hard drive. For the same price ($500 BTO upgrade vs $550 total cost) you could get a 3rd party SSD from OWC that gets 559MB/s read and 527MB/s write. Heck, any Mac that supports SATA III and had an OWC Mercury Extreme 6g installed would be declared the "fastest Mac ever" according to these messed up Macworld tests. edit: Macworld compared the 2011 iMac against the 6-core Mac Pro, making the headline "Fastest Mac Ever" even more ridiculous. Last edited by holmesf; Jun 15, 2011 at 03:34 PM.
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:55 PM	#49
larrylaffer macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles	I'd like to see it take on my dual 6-core Mac Pro I just got, seeing as mine has 3 striped SSDs.
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Jun 15, 2011, 01:58 PM	#50
captan macrumors member Join Date: May 2005	If anything, this is is saying that an SSD is a crucial upgrade to any mac, including the Mac Pro.
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