New PowerMac G5s and PowerBook HD at NAB?

MacRumors · Mar 30, 2005, 10:29 AM

One detailed tipster claims that new PowerMacs will be announced at the upcoming National Association of Broadcasters conference which takes place between April 16-21 in Las Vegas, NV.

The ambitious report claims that the new machines will include the rumored 970MP starting at 2GHz, alongside 2.5GHz and 3.0GHz models. The first Blu-ray drives (Apple adopts Blu-Ray) are expected to make their debut in the top-end model.

Under the hood support for Hypertransport 2.0, PCI-Express, and a new Audio IC is reported. Memory support will be boosted to 32GB of RAM in the high end models with availability of 4GB DDR modules.

While G5 PowerBooks are not expected, a higher resolution "PowerBook HD" is expected to be debuted at NAB as well. The new model is expected to simply boost the resoluation of the current 17" PowerBook and offer the ATI Mobility Radeon 9800.

Steve Jobs has made comments at MacWorld SF that 2005 will be the year of High Definition.

nbaker756 · Mar 30, 2005, 10:32 AM

this would be so awesome if it turns out to be true! i will order the day both come out!

Steven1621 · 10:41 AM

what would that put the res to on the PB's?

edit: nevermind. i reread the post. how would that make it HD though?

buryyourbrideau · Mar 30, 2005, 10:39 AM

yay!!!

KrysBaz · Mar 30, 2005, 10:42 AM

Maybe the MDD G4 dual 1ghz and rev A 12" PB due need to be upgraded, perhaps I'll have to win big on the Grand National of Saturday.

Probably about as much chance of that happing but it would be nice.

dolphin842 · Mar 30, 2005, 10:39 AM

Hmm.... seems that either this 'tipster' is really an insider, or is just running down a wishlist of desired features for the next update.

4 GB ram modules are available now? Color me impressed...

iGary · Mar 30, 2005, 10:45 AM

Well it's been a good bit of time since updates, it would be nice to see some real whoppers soon...Getting tired of looking at iPod on the front page.

mrkite · Mar 30, 2005, 10:49 AM

Sounds a little too good to be true to me...

Bear · Mar 30, 2005, 10:55 AM

I'll take one of the dual core dual proc 3.0GHz with the Blu-Ray drive.

And yes, I'll really order one of those if they're announced. Otherwise I'll be ordering the whatever the biggest baddest PowerMac that is announced.

leenoble · Mar 30, 2005, 11:00 AM

I've no idea what kind of resolution would make a PowerBook into a PowerBook HD, but surely if you stuck too many pixels in per square inch all the GUI elements and text would be too small.

I didn't think the vector based UI was due to debut until 10.5.

tdewey · Mar 30, 2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkite

Sounds a little too good to be true to me...

Agreed. New Powermacs I can believe but: blu-ray? HD PB? 970MP?

I'd be happy to be proved wrong of course ;-)

eXan · Mar 30, 2005, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkite

Sounds a little too good to be true to me...

Exactly my thoughts. 32 GB of RAM? I doubt it. Imagine what it will cost if 8 GB is 8000$

decash · Mar 30, 2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dolphin842

...4 GB ram modules are available now? Color me impressed...

Yes, as are 2GB sticks. Crucial's take of the 4GB comes as its DDR PC2100 DIMM, 184 pin. But at USD $2999 a pop, it aint cheap!

Eastend · Mar 30, 2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by decash

Yes, as are 2GB sticks. Crucial's take of the 4GB comes as its DDR PC2100 DIMM, 184 pin. But at USD $2999 a pop, it aint cheap!

Hey that's neat, they will probably let you have the computer for one dollar if you fill it with ram for 24,000 dollars.

Brian

Yvan256 · Mar 30, 2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by decash

Yes, as are 2GB sticks. Crucial's take of the 4GB comes as its DDR PC2100 DIMM, 184 pin. But at USD $2999 a pop, it aint cheap!

Can the Mac mini use those 2GB and 4GB sticks? Yes, it would be insane right now (for the price), but in about 5 years (when a 4GB stick costs 100$), it would be nice to put 2 or 4GB into a Mac mini...

bikertwin · Mar 30, 2005, 02:53 PM

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NAB would be an odd place to announce the new PowerMac G5 3 GHz...

There's no content for BluRay...

Do you know what NAB is?

NAB = National Association of Broadcasters. These are people who *create* content, not consume it. We're talking pro's, not college kids.

Broadcasters and videographers need BluRay far earlier in its lifecycle than consumers do, and would be willing to pay much more for it. The rumor didn't say the machine would be cheap.

decash · Mar 30, 2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvan256

Can the Mac mini use those 2GB and 4GB sticks? Yes, it would be insane right now (for the price), but in about 5 years (when a 4GB stick costs 100$), it would be nice to put 2 or 4GB into a Mac mini...

The Mac minu uses the G4 processor, a 32 bit architecture. This means that you can address 232 'addresses', equalling 4 gigabytes of RAM. This is the upper limit for the G4, so compatability will depend on the physical properties of the memory module. (Pin count, type, et al).

The G5, as a 64 bit system, effectively doubles the memory limit, (8GB) and programs written to take advantage of the 64 bit architecture can address huge ammounts of memory.

aafuss1 · 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrumors

One detailed tipster claims that new PowerMacs will be announced at the upcoming National Association of Broadcasters conference which takes place between April 16-21 in Las Vegas, NV.

The ambitious report claims that the new machines will include the rumored 970MP starting at 2GHz, alongside 2.5GHz and 3.0GHz models. The first Blu-ray drives (Apple adopts Blu-Ray) are expected to make their debut in the top-end model.

Under the hood support for Hypertransport 2.0, PCI-Express, and a new Audio IC is reported. Memory support will be boosted to 32GB of RAM in the high end models with availability of 4GB DDR modules.

While G5 PowerBooks are not expected, a higher resolution "PowerBook HD" is expected to be debuted at NAB as well. The new model is expected to simply boost the resoluation of the current 17" PowerBook and offer the ATI Mobility Radeon 9800.

Steve Jobs has made comments at MacWorld SF that 2005 will be the year of High Definition.

If the PMG5's get PCI Express–it'd probably require a new chipset (let's say the U4 and K4 IC's). Sounds good to me–seeing as Apple recently adopted Blu-Ray. Thus, unlike the recorders currently available in Japan, Apple will have a much more affordable solution.

Also, would the single processor model move to 2.0GHz too?

Audo IC–there's a new one–it should support something similar to Intel HD Audio (found on many new PC's) or improved sound quality.

Demon Hunter · Mar 30, 2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrumors

[...] and offer the ATI Mobility Radeon 9800.

That's great, except that this chipset won't fit in a 1" Powerbook case.

In the words of Ron Burgundy, FAN-TASTIC.

fraggle · Mar 30, 2005, 11:58 AM

... since I just got a new 17" PowerBook and would have taken one with a higher resolution if it had been available

Lacero · Mar 30, 2005, 12:03 PM

Tiger is getting a vector-based UI? Why haven't I heard of this before, and why does Apple hide this feature on their website?

leandroc76 · Mar 30, 2005, 12:27 PM

It's a rumor that's why. None of these rumors are true, I guarantee it.

32 gigs? Impossible. No operating system to this day can use 32 megs. Tiger is only 64 bits with a max 8 gigs.

Pipe Dreams!!!!

God I hope I'm wrong!!!

ksz · 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leandroc76

It's a rumor that's why. None of these rumors are true, I guarantee it.

32 gigs? Impossible. No operating system to this day can use 32 megs. Tiger is only 64 bits with a max 8 gigs.

Pipe Dreams!!!!

God I hope I'm wrong!!!

Hmmm, yes you're wrong! The number of bits doubled from 32 to 64, but that does not mean that the maximum addressable memory also doubles from 4GB to 8GB (you just need a 33rd bit to achieve that). A 32-bit processor is limited to 4GB of addressable physical memory, but a 64-bit processor is limited to 17,179,869,184 GB (that's 17 billion gigabytes) if my math holds up.

Sun Baked · Mar 30, 2005, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leandroc76

It's a rumor that's why. None of these rumors are true, I guarantee it.

32 gigs? Impossible. No operating system to this day can use 32 megs. Tiger is only 64 bits with a max 8 gigs.

Pipe Dreams!!!!

God I hope I'm wrong!!!

No increase in DIMM slots, a likely switch to DDR2 in the new chipset and Apple including 4GB DDR2 DIMMs.

Infineon announce they were sampling 4GB DDR2 Modules in February 2005, wouldn't be too out of bounds.

All Apple needs to do to change to PCI-Express and DDR 2 is install a new Memory Controller, and the HT PCI-X Tunnel is also a chip so it can go PCI-X 2.0 or a combo of PCI-Express/PCI-X 2.0 -- the K2 I/O doesn't need to be changed since it can be updated with normal PCI-to-Blank modules for a while.

Lacero · Mar 30, 2005, 12:45 PM

Ok listen. Apple's gonna release updated PM with 512MB RAM. However, the PM itself will be able to support up to 32GB of memory, in other words, support for 4GB RAM modules. When they do, the horde of Apple zealots will cry out why Apple didn't include 2GB RAM standard.

Mar 30, 2005, 10:29 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	New PowerMac G5s and PowerBook HD at NAB? One detailed tipster claims that new PowerMacs will be announced at the upcoming National Association of Broadcasters conference which takes place between April 16-21 in Las Vegas, NV. The ambitious report claims that the new machines will include the rumored 970MP starting at 2GHz, alongside 2.5GHz and 3.0GHz models. The first Blu-ray drives (Apple adopts Blu-Ray) are expected to make their debut in the top-end model. Under the hood support for Hypertransport 2.0, PCI-Express, and a new Audio IC is reported. Memory support will be boosted to 32GB of RAM in the high end models with availability of 4GB DDR modules. While G5 PowerBooks are not expected, a higher resolution "PowerBook HD" is expected to be debuted at NAB as well. The new model is expected to simply boost the resoluation of the current 17" PowerBook and offer the ATI Mobility Radeon 9800. Steve Jobs has made comments at MacWorld SF that 2005 will be the year of High Definition.

Mar 30, 2005, 10:32 AM	#2
nbaker756 macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2004	sweet this would be so awesome if it turns out to be true! i will order the day both come out!

Mar 30, 2005, 10:38 AM	#3
Steven1621 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Connecticut (Ankara, Turkey for the next year)	what would that put the res to on the PB's? edit: nevermind. i reread the post. how would that make it HD though? __________________ -15" MacBook Pro, 2.4 GHz, 200 GB HD, 4 GB RAM -Dell 20" 2005FPW -16 GB iPod Touch -Nikon D40 w/ Nikkor 18-200mm VR Last edited by Steven1621 : Mar 30, 2005 at 10:41 AM.

Mar 30, 2005, 10:39 AM	#4
buryyourbrideau macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 48152	yay!!! __________________ And when it all goes to hell....

Mar 30, 2005, 10:42 AM	#5
KrysBaz macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wokingham UK	And just when I's convinced myself that I didn't really need to upgrade! Maybe the MDD G4 dual 1ghz and rev A 12" PB due need to be upgraded, perhaps I'll have to win big on the Grand National of Saturday. Probably about as much chance of that happing but it would be nice. __________________ We’re caught in a trap I can’t walk out; Because I love you too much baby Why can’t you see; What you’re doing to me; When you don’t believe a word I say? We can’t go on together; With suspicious minds; And we can’t build our dreams; On suspicious minds

Mar 30, 2005, 10:39 AM	#6
dolphin842 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2004	Hmm.... seems that either this 'tipster' is really an insider, or is just running down a wishlist of desired features for the next update. 4 GB ram modules are available now? Color me impressed...

Mar 30, 2005, 10:45 AM	#7
iGary macrumors Demi-God Join Date: May 2004 Location: La Villa Strangiato	Well it's been a good bit of time since updates, it would be nice to see some real whoppers soon...Getting tired of looking at iPod on the front page. __________________ Mac Pro Octophallus 2.8 \| 13" UMBP 2.26

Mar 30, 2005, 10:49 AM	#8
mrkite macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2004	Sounds a little too good to be true to me...

Mar 30, 2005, 10:55 AM	#9
Bear macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sol III - Terra	I'll take one of the dual core dual proc 3.0GHz with the Blu-Ray drive. And yes, I'll really order one of those if they're announced. Otherwise I'll be ordering the whatever the biggest baddest PowerMac that is announced. __________________ -----Bear

Mar 30, 2005, 11:00 AM	#10
leenoble macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2003	Small text I've no idea what kind of resolution would make a PowerBook into a PowerBook HD, but surely if you stuck too many pixels in per square inch all the GUI elements and text would be too small. I didn't think the vector based UI was due to debut until 10.5. __________________ ------ And so I said, well I can't remember exactly what I said but it was one of the most enormously cruel and frighteningly witty put downs ever.

Mar 30, 2005, 11:58 AM	#20
fraggle macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Switzerland	This must be true... ... since I just got a new 17" PowerBook and would have taken one with a higher resolution if it had been available

Mar 30, 2005, 12:03 PM	#21
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Tiger is getting a vector-based UI? Why haven't I heard of this before, and why does Apple hide this feature on their website?

Mar 30, 2005, 12:27 PM	#22
leandroc76 macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2003	It's a rumor that's why. None of these rumors are true, I guarantee it. 32 gigs? Impossible. No operating system to this day can use 32 megs. Tiger is only 64 bits with a max 8 gigs. Pipe Dreams!!!! God I hope I'm wrong!!!

Mar 30, 2005, 12:45 PM	#25
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Ok listen. Apple's gonna release updated PM with 512MB RAM. However, the PM itself will be able to support up to 32GB of memory, in other words, support for 4GB RAM modules. When they do, the horde of Apple zealots will cry out why Apple didn't include 2GB RAM standard.

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