Why do people defend Android so much here? [Moved from iPhone forum]

[ctbear]

Originally Posted by radiogoober

It really is strange. I would never even look up an Android forum and go troll them. I can't imagine being *that* bored and having that *little* to do in life. Really bizarre.

Have you ever imagined that these "Android trolls" you are talking about, actually come to Macrumors because they have an iOS device? Or is it too hard for you to comprehend the fact that some people just prefer other products than your mighty iPhone?

I for one actually like iPhone 4 than most competitors right now on the market (haven't tried the SGS2, so no comment). But that does not make me defend the iPhone blindly. I will be a fool to limit myself to other options without actually getting to experience them.

[ChazUK]

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Originally Posted by radiogoober

It really is strange. I would never even look up an Android forum and go troll them. I can't imagine being *that* bored and having that *little* to do in life. Really bizarre.

Is it just me that reads these type of posts as thinly veiled attacks at others? They always come across as inferring they have an air of superiority over their opposition ("I would never do that, I am much better than them").

This is only heightened in my mind by the use of *stars*.

[radiogoober]

Originally Posted by ChazUK

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Is it just me that reads these type of posts as thinly veiled attacks at others? They always come across as inferring they have an air of superiority over their opposition ("I would never do that, I am much better than them").

This is only heightened in my mind by the use of *stars*.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

[Andy Ftw]

Originally Posted by radiogoober

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

What? What is this truth, you didn't explain anything O_o He's absolutely right.

[Kariya]

Originally Posted by ChazUK

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Is it just me that reads these type of posts as thinly veiled attacks at others? They always come across as inferring they have an air of superiority over their opposition ("I would never do that, I am much better than them").

This is only heightened in my mind by the use of *stars*.

radiogoober is more often than not arrogant with his remarks.

[Vegastouch]

Originally Posted by Travisimo

Android sucks.
iPhone sucks.
Xbox 360 sucks.
PS3 sucks.
PC's suck.
Mac's suck.
Chocolate ice creams sucks.
Vanilla ice cream sucks.

There. Glad we got that out of the way.

Bottom line: everyone likes to defend what they love. But the success of both the iPhone and Android is beneficial to us all! Long live competition!

Oh now you've gone too far

[ChazUK]

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Originally Posted by radiogoober

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

What truth would that be? Care to explain?

[mrmacosx]

Originally Posted by radiogoober

So which antivirus software do you use on your Android device? How much malware have you downloaded from the "app store" (I put it in quotes, because it can hardly be considered an app store. More like a crap store.)

I don't run any antivirus software, and I don't have any malware.

Why? Because I don't randomly install applications from unknown/shady sources.

Do you also think that all Windows based PCs are infected with viruses because "AppleInsider" says so?

Just wondering, how many Android-based devices do you currently own, and what viruses infected them? It's really quite important to have first-hand experience with an issue before criticizing it.

Also...

Originally Posted by radiogoober

Your entire post attacked me and you contributed nothing to the thread.

Take your own advice next time if you don't like being attacked

Originally Posted by radiogoober

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Unable to elaborate, eh?

[Sir Ruben]

I tend not to argue with people over choice of phone purely because I am completely satisfied with the iPhone 4. I have just received a free handset upgrade from my network provider which happens to be a Samsung Galaxy S2. I got it for free because I told them I was thinking of leaving.

Anyway this is supposedly THE best smartphone on the market right now, and I have to say its specs are impressive. I even considered keeping it and selling the iPhone 4. However after holding it and being reminded what 'other' smartphones feel like, light, cheap, thin plasticky surfaces. Horrible. I could never swap. The iPhone by comparison feels solid, weighty, and elegant.

Also Android, I just dont like it, its messy. I flicked through a few screens before thinking to myself 'eBay!'. I wasnt even that impressed with its screen, in fact much less than I expected to be. It felt and looked big in my hand also.

So the cash I get from the S2 will pretty much pay for my iPhone 5. Plus having had the option to switch, I know know it isnt for me. The people who rave about Android obviously havent used an iPhone for any length of time, and if you want the iPhone to be as flexible as an Android there is always jailbreak.

[smelly cat]

Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly,it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate crap it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through the comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine,what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.

Anything is possible when you cut and paste.

I'm on a computer

[thegman1234]

Originally Posted by Lotso

I don't think being a fanboy is anything to be ashamed of. You are a fan of something, you have a passion for something, nothing wrong with that; it's what makes us human.

Now Blind Fanboys, that's another story.

I agree whole heartedly. Perfect example; I'm a German Car enthusiast. I love all German Cars... from Audi to VW. But my last Jetta gave me more problems than Mexican food, so I jumped. I bought a Kia, something I never thought I'd buy. The deal was right, the warranty is great, and Kia is on fire right now. They're nice looking, fun to drive, and very reliable.

So, instead of buying another VW (because I can't afford a BMW right now lol) I did the right thing for myself and made a switch from German to Korean. To this day I'll still fanboy it up for German Cars, but I don't own one because it doesn't make sense for me to at this time.

And that's something that the blind Android fanboys need to understand. Many of the iPhone users like the iPhone because it's good for them. They like the way it works and they don't need some of the "extras" that blind Android fanboys swear the iPhone is "missing". That's why I like my iPhone. I like the UI, I like the fit and finish, and I like the seamless Mac integration. It's a good product for me.

On the other hand, blind Apple fanboys need to realize that some people just like using crappier products.

[Pmoser]

Originally Posted by thegman1234

I agree whole heartedly. Perfect example; I'm a German Car enthusiast. I love all German Cars... from Audi to VW. But my last Jetta gave me more problems than Mexican food, so I jumped. I bought a Kia, something I never thought I'd buy. The deal was right, the warranty is great, and Kia is on fire right now. They're nice looking, fun to drive, and very reliable.

So, instead of buying another VW (because I can't afford a BMW right now lol) I did the right thing for myself and made a switch from German to Korean. To this day I'll still fanboy it up for German Cars, but I don't own one because it doesn't make sense for me to at this time.

And that's something that the blind Android fanboys need to understand. Many of the iPhone users like the iPhone because it's good for them. They like the way it works and they don't need some of the "extras" that blind Android fanboys swear the iPhone is "missing". That's why I like my iPhone. I like the UI, I like the fit and finish, and I like the seamless Mac integration. It's a good product for me.

On the other hand, blind Apple fanboys need to realize that some people just like using crappier products.

Good explanation except your sarcasm at the end.

[kdarling]

Hey, it's the Internet

It's full of people, mostly males, who will argue over anything at the drop of a hat, especially if they feel threatened over their choices, affiliations, or whatever else they believe they have a stake in that day.

Sadly, getting offensive or defensive over a temporary design of plastic, metal and glass, is probably the least productive and meaningful of all Internet debates.

[Vegastouch]

Originally Posted by Sir Ruben

However after holding it and being reminded what 'other' smartphones feel like, light, cheap, thin plasticky surfaces. Horrible. I could never swap. The iPhone by comparison feels solid, weighty, and elegant.

I never understand this comment from people. Why would your phone feel more solid just because it is heavier? Its heavier because it has glass all around it that we ALL know, breaks pretty easily. It looks nice, ill always give ya that but who cares? I put cases on all my phones and did on my iPhone. I have a\ case on my Android and it feels just fine and i like that it is lighter than my iPhone is.

The people who rave about Android obviously havent used an iPhone for any length of time, and if you want the iPhone to be as flexible as an Android there is always jailbreak.

I used my iPhone for two years and it was jailbroken so even though it could do more than one that isnt jailbroken, it still couldnt do as much as Android does and that is why i really like Android and after a week, really started to love what it can do without rooting. When i learned how to root it and use custom ROM's, boot animations and shutdowns and different Modems....it just made it even better. Best of all, no iTunes.

The versatility is insanely better and that isnt a knock on the iPhone. Its a good device as well but i like versatility and Apple just dont let you have it and re-jailbreaking and waiting for compatibilty from the Dev team after updates got old.

To each their own....use what you like and be happy with it.

[NebulaClash]

Why is there so much talk about Android on a Mac discussion board?

1. Some iOS fans like their Android phones, and being used to evangelizing their Macs they now evagelize their new phones too. Which leads to . . .

2. When people buy something, they feel emotionally connected to it and want to create owner's bias in their minds by building up their choice and running down the competition. It makes them feel better about their choice. But there is also . . .

3. What kdarling said, that males online will argue about whether the sun rises in the east, if you give them half a chance. So for some this is a game designed to stir up trouble. When taken to irrational levels it becomes . . .

4. Trolls. But let's not also forget . . .

5. For thirty years Microsoft showed the way: When you are competing against another company, create "independent" PR that trashes that other company and makes your own company look good. In the early days (80s) it was "grass roots" letters to the editor of the local papers, and stories mostly planted in the tech press. When the Internet grew up, it became posting on message boards. Sometimes even getting paid to do so. Read between the lines, people.

[tigress666]

Originally Posted by Vegastouch

I never understand this comment from people. Why would your phone feel more solid just because it is heavier? Its heavier because it has glass all around it that we ALL know, breaks pretty easily. It looks nice, ill always give ya that but who cares? I put cases on all my phones and did on my iPhone. I have a\ case on my Android and it feels just fine and i like that it is lighter than my iPhone is.

When something feels more solid to me, it means that parts don't seem to bend or move around and there's no rattles and that things seem very solidly in place. I have no idea if the Android phones feel less solid but in general cause plastic is more flexible I could see how being a plastic phone might make something *feel* (feel, not be) less solid.

[Bobby Corwen]

Originally Posted by Sir Ruben

I tend not to argue with people over choice of phone purely because I am completely satisfied with the iPhone 4. I have just received a free handset upgrade from my network provider which happens to be a Samsung Galaxy S2. I got it for free because I told them I was thinking of leaving.

Anyway this is supposedly THE best smartphone on the market right now, and I have to say its specs are impressive. I even considered keeping it and selling the iPhone 4. However after holding it and being reminded what 'other' smartphones feel like, light, cheap, thin plasticky surfaces. Horrible. I could never swap. The iPhone by comparison feels solid, weighty, and elegant.

Also Android, I just dont like it, its messy. I flicked through a few screens before thinking to myself 'eBay!'. I wasnt even that impressed with its screen, in fact much less than I expected to be. It felt and looked big in my hand also.

So the cash I get from the S2 will pretty much pay for my iPhone 5. Plus having had the option to switch, I know know it isnt for me. The people who rave about Android obviously havent used an iPhone for any length of time, and if you want the iPhone to be as flexible as an Android there is always jailbreak.

Checkmate x 10,000

Now you have to ask yourself, why don't you see what this man noticed?

What is the root of that moviation?

[al1cre]

Originally Posted by Bobby Corwen

Checkmate x 10,000

Now you have to ask yourself, why don't you see what this man noticed?

What is the root of that moviation?

Sigh. I have a Touch, an iPad 2, and an iPhone 4. I got the iPhone when I left T-MObile to go to Verizon. I used to have a G2 with stock Android. I used the G2 every day and I have real experience on both platforms. My hardware list should show that I'm not an Apple hater.

The iPhone is a nice device. I can't say I think it's "magic" but there are a lot of things that are (contrary to what some have suggested) completely a matter of personal preference. So? The iPhone is *in some ways* easier to use but there are some things I miss on my old phone (such as the ability to just say "WiFi on"). I miss Swype, which made the keyboard much easier to use. I miss the comfort factor of how the phone felt in my hand. There are other little things, but there's no point in going on with such features. Contrary to what's been said on this forum I had no stability problems and didn't notice much of any lag with Android. In checking several phones before making my choice I did notice that other phones had better reception on the Verizon network. The point is that there things that someone might reasonably prefer on a phone that isn't made by Apple.

Does any of that take away from the iPhone? Not at all. It's not perfect, but it may perfectly represent what you are looking for in a phone/gadget. That's fine, but please recognize that it's all still opinion.

[MacJones]

I switched from an AT&T iPhone 4 to a Verizon 4G LTE Thunderbolt so I could secure unlimited 4G data before July 7th. At first I didn't think I'd be all that happy with the Android platform but I decided to suck it up because I really wanted the 4G LTE. I've had the phone for a little while now and absolutely love it!

The 4.3" screen is amazing! Sure the pixel density isn't as high as the iPhone 4 but the amount of space you have on this screen makes up for it. Looking at my sister’s iPhone 4 gets frustrating because the screen feels so small and cramped. The 4.3" screen obviously makes the phone bigger but I haven't really noticed a difference carrying it in my pocket and I got use to the size difference quickly. HTC makes nice hardware that doesn't feel cheap at all.

Widgets and customization are fantastic. I really feel that widgets are a must on any phone I'm going to own from now on. I think Apple dropped the ball with iOS 5 not adding widgets to the home screen. I love being able to customize my phone in so many different ways instead of being stuck with a grid of icons and a wallpaper I can change. If you're into jailbreaking on iPhone like I was you'll absolutely love what you can do on Android.

The 4 buttons on the bottom of the phone add so much functionality and allow for even more screen realty with the menu and back buttons not taking up space on the screen. One button looks more aesthetically pleasing but in this case function wins over form.

Now, I'm not trolling, I still think Apple makes great hardware and has a very clean and easy to use OS. There are little things that I miss from iOS but overall Android is a better OS for me.

So there's a past iPhone user and Mac lover defending the Android OS.

[Hellvalley]

Originally Posted by Bobby Corwen

Please dont resort to calling people names.

The same can be said "blindingly ignorant" to those who think iOS is not in a class of it's own meaning you have no taste for fashion or design or aesthetics.

Every time someone tries to downplay the iOS we know you are just jealous.

Are you so blind you can't tell the difference between something elegant and something 2nd rate?

Who ARE these people? Stop saying we are fanboys. Apple is the envy of planet earth.

Act like it.

It has nothing to do with "Apple" being the "Envy of planet Earth" as you put it.

Mac has purposes, so does windows, IOS, Android, WinMo7, even zune. Everyone has something that works for them. I've used Macs and I've used Windows. Windows suites my needs. Again, I've used IOS and I've used Android... IOS is nice, but for what I need and do, Android is my preference.

It has nothing, absolutely "Nothing" to do with which OS is better than the other. Each one has different abilities and design. It's what people like.

Now, as you saying "Apple is the envy of planet Earth" you truly have huge fanboy issues.

[Bobby Corwen]

Lol, Zune ^

[RichardBeer]

Originally Posted by jp700p

Its not every post that's like this, but I do find it more often here. I lurk the most popular Android forms and I just don't see that type of behavior. Whenever someone says, "My new Android kicks iPhones ass" it seems all of them jump in and backup the op. No one ever defends the iPhone.

Such overwhelming bias is actually a negative thing. It suggests a lack of critical and balanced judgement when it comes to each respective product.
Naturally you would expect an Apple themed forum and an Android one to both attract a demographic with some bias towards whichever. However I think that the sheer lack of unconditional acceptance of Apple products and methods on this forum is a virtue. Unlike the Android forum that you mentioned; it sounds very biased. Posts on this forum infer that the users have a fair grasp of judgment when buying their products. I.e they are mac users, iOS users, iPod users, for a rational reason. Not just because they picked a camp and root for it.

Also, it's sometimes said that if you are confident in your purchase and know that your own reasons are valid; you don't need to defend your purchase. At least this goes for when you are trying to debate against someone with a definitive bias against your choice, they are unable to see objectively and thus cannot rationally judge or debate. Besides who wants to sit and listen to someone proselytize their choice to you all day?

[mrmacosx]

Originally Posted by Bobby Corwen

Checkmate x 10,000

Now you have to ask yourself, why don't you see what this man noticed?

What is the root of that moviation?

Because his experience does not necessarily = my/anyone else's experience?

My iPhone 4 is quite laggy, especially after loading all my media onto it. Does that mean that your iPhone 4 is laggy as well? Nope.

Originally Posted by Bobby Corwen

Lol, Zune ^

It's a great PMP. Zune software is far quicker than iTunes on Windows and the interface is very slick. Don't you think so too?

Oh and btw: "Apple is the envy of the planet earth". LOLLLLL That was a good joke

[Sir Ruben]

Originally Posted by Vegastouch

I never understand this comment from people. Why would your phone feel more solid just because it is heavier? Its heavier because it has glass all around it that we ALL know, breaks pretty easily. It looks nice, ill always give ya that but who cares? I put cases on all my phones and did on my iPhone. I have a\ case on my Android and it feels just fine and i like that it is lighter than my iPhone is.

It feels more solid because it doesnt flex or creak in your hand like a plastic phone does. Yes the glass will smash if you drop it, so will the screen on your android. If you squeeze an iPhone 4 none of the casing moves and everything remains tight and solid. A feel of pure quality.

I dont know how many of you have held the SGS2, but the battery cover (which makes up most of the back of the phone) is the thinnest cheapest slither of plastic I have ever seen, flexing and creaking all round. Plus the camera, big chunky looking thing on the back of the phone with '8.0 MEGA' stamped on it. Ugly.

iPhone lovers dont be fooled by the Android fans coming on here, the grass really isnt greener on the other side. It really isnt. Theres nothing like the unity of an iPhone with IOS, the build quality, etc. Even specs mean nothing because apple design the hardware around the specific needs of IOS.

As Ive said before I even considered keeping the SGS2 and selling the iPhone 4, and dont get me wrong the SGS2 IS a very very good phone, but next to an iPhone is still feels like a cheap imitation.

[mrmacosx]

Originally Posted by Sir Ruben

It feels more solid because it doesnt flex or creak in your hand like a plastic phone does. Yes the glass will smash if you drop it, so will the screen on your android. If you squeeze an iPhone 4 none of the casing moves and everything remains tight and solid. A feel of pure quality.

I dont know how many of you have held the SGS2, but the battery cover (which makes up most of the back of the phone) is the thinnest cheapest slither of plastic I have ever seen, flexing and creaking all round. Plus the camera, big chunky looking thing on the back of the phone with '8.0 MEGA' stamped on it. Ugly.

iPhone lovers dont be fooled by the Android fans coming on here, the grass really isnt greener on the other side. It really isnt. Theres nothing like the unity of an iPhone with IOS, the build quality, etc. Even specs mean nothing because apple design the hardware around the specific needs of IOS.

As Ive said before I even considered keeping the SGS2 and selling the iPhone 4, and dont get me wrong the SGS2 IS a very very good phone, but next to an iPhone is still feels like a cheap imitation.

If it creaks and flexes then you either haven't put the battery cover on properly (there are quite a few snaps) or you have a defective unit.

Re: the look- it's all opinions. Next to both my iPhone 4s the GSII looks and feels much better [imo].

The reason why the glass won't crack as easily on a normal phone with a glass touchscreen is because the screen's glass isn't the impact surface when the phone drops. If you drop your iPhone on any corner the glass will the bit hitting the floor/concrete/etc while with a normal phone it's the plastic body which will absorb some of the impact, rather than directly being transferred to the glass.

Not that you'd understand but I still feel compelled to explain.