Adobe Creative Suite 2 Announced

MacRumors · Apr 4, 2005, 01:57 AM

Adobe.com announced their Creative Suite 2 which made headlines last week when Adobe prematurely posted a press-release on their site.

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Adobe Creative Suite 2 Premium software is a unified design environment that combines full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, InDesign CS2, GoLive CS2, and Acrobat® 7.0 Professional software with new Version Cue® CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos.

More information available at Adobe's site.

jared_kipe · Apr 4, 2005, 02:04 AM

From all that I have read, it sounds like this is going to be a very non event. Some say there are really good things, but I've only heard of meager things. Now if they threw in some awesome noise reduction, that would be something to buy.

tech4all · 02:53 AM

This is good news about CS. Now just need to get some money for the upgrade.....

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Originally Posted by jared_kipe

Now if they threw in some awesome noise reduction, that would be something to buy.

For what program? Photoshop?

deanbo · Apr 4, 2005, 02:08 AM

Smart objects certainly intrigues me...

kjs862 · Apr 4, 2005, 02:08 AM

When does it start shipping ?

stoid · Apr 4, 2005, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kjs862

When does it start shipping ?

May.

I like the perspective clone brush, that's pretty cool, though I'm surprised they didn't have that sooner.

GodBless · Apr 4, 2005, 02:24 AM

Do any of you have any idea whether or not it will take advantage of Tiger's core image technologies?

ryanw · Apr 4, 2005, 02:25 AM

Nice shiney new product activiation ...

GodBless · Apr 4, 2005, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tech4all

For what program? Photoshop?

Yeah the word Suite in Creative Suite (CS) implies that there are many programs being updated. Anyway I'm sure there are many features that are added to each of Adobe's CS applications with this release.

aafuss1 · Apr 4, 2005, 02:32 AM

Photoshop has a new vanishing point feature and also a improved File Browser is now called Adobe Bridge.

Seems like GoLive is not included with Creative Suite 2 Std-was it included in previous standard Creative Suite version?

BurkDP · Apr 4, 2005, 02:33 AM

Hi, this is my first post. I heard about someone who had modified the free image manipulation program GIMP by giving a near (copy) of photoshops interface. I have had to use photoshop for a class and it seems a tad bit excessive to charge $600 for it. The website can be found here (http://www.plasticbugs.com/). There are pictures too.

It has just been updated for 10.3 and it uses X11 for all you curious types out there.

Lacero · Apr 4, 2005, 02:34 AM

Smart Objects seems to be worthy of the upgrade price alone. This, and an improved browser and support for HDRI (been requesting this since 2000) are just plain cool. This be the best Photoshop upgrade since Photoshop introduced Layers and Adjustment Layers.

andrewfee · Apr 4, 2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jared_kipe

From all that I have read, it sounds like this is going to be a very non event. Some say there are really good things, but I've only heard of meager things. Now if they threw in some awesome noise reduction, that would be something to buy.

On the UK Adobe store at least, Photoshop CS2 is about £85 cheaper than CS is. That leaves you with enough money to buy the Noise-Ninja plugin and have some change.

Lacero · Apr 4, 2005, 02:40 AM

Photoshop CS2 has advanced noise reduction tools built-in for high-ISO shooting and JPEG artifact reduction. The latter tool should compete well against other competitors like Binus.

Some_Big_Spoon · Apr 4, 2005, 03:25 AM

e gads! $1299.. makes you feel a little better about the $129 apple charges per year since adobe charges 10x that a year.

wish apple would come out with a "Pages" for the web. I like GoLive, but i want it even faster and easier.

Some_Big_Spoon · Apr 4, 2005, 03:28 AM

Nope. Fun, right? Folks get pissea at Macs being slower, then you read about third party companies not writing code correctly (the Doom 3 fiasco) and not seeming to give a toss about the seemingly endless wealth of possibilites that the Mac offers. Oh well, more RAM will be needed i guess.

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Originally Posted by GodBless

Do any of you have any idea whether or not it will take advantage of Tiger's core image technologies?

Blue Velvet · Apr 4, 2005, 03:35 AM

The really big story is how InDesign is coming along.
How long before we see a downloadable 30-day demo up on Adobe's site?

Hugin777 · Apr 4, 2005, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BurkDP

I have had to use photoshop for a class and it seems a tad bit excessive to charge $600 for it.

Check out Photoshop Elements 3.0. It's 1/10th of the price of Photoshop, with all the good things included. It only lacks CMYK and similar prof. features.

I just bought Photoshop Elements 3.0 after having used Photoshop CS for a while, and I'm completely amazed. This is exceptionally good value, and simply the best image manipulation software out there. IMHO

GIMPshop looks promising, but Photoshop Elements 3.0 is a native Mac app...

(sorry for the OT post)

CanadaRAM · Apr 4, 2005, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aafuss1

Photoshop has a new vanishing point feature and also a improved File Browser is now called Adobe Bridge.

Seems like GoLive is not included with Creative Suite 2 Std-was it included in previous standard Creative Suite version?

No, GoLive has always been a Premium Suite product only. And it's been a waste as a bundle anyway, because 100% of the people who have bought CS from me already are standardized on Dreamweaver.

Blue Velvet · Apr 4, 2005, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BurkDP

I have had to use photoshop for a class and it seems a tad bit excessive to charge $600 for it.

This from just one class?

To many professional people, this is an application they use every day to make a living. Many of the features within it are not immediately apparent to a first-time user. It is worth every penny and more...

Lacero · Apr 4, 2005, 04:37 AM

Photoshop is a critical application. People work and make a living using this image editing program. So Adobe has every right to charge $1299 or $600 for it, because it is worth it and people are willing to pay the price for it. How many professionals do you see using just iPhoto for their image editing? How many magazine editors rely on iPhoto for color correction, separation, and image manipulation?

It may not be worth $600 to you, but for the majority of professionals, it is.

k28 · Apr 4, 2005, 05:01 AM

i currently own Adobe CS education, are there any upgread in education price? or i have to buy a full one?

Blue Velvet · Apr 4, 2005, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by k28

i currently own Adobe CS education, are there any upgread in education price? or i have to buy a full one?

There will be an educational upgrade price. Get in touch with the retailer you got your copy of CS from...

psycho bob · Apr 4, 2005, 05:19 AM

Well the biggest news for Photochoppers who work on big files is apparently the 2GB RAM limit has been lifted. You can know access up to twice that amount (4GB). I got this information from Chapter 1 of Martin Evening's book Adobe Photoshop CS2 for Photographers.
This is great news, no more dramatic slowdowns while batch editing 16bit TIFFs.

BWhaler · Apr 4, 2005, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BurkDP

I have had to use photoshop for a class and it seems a tad bit excessive to charge $600 for it.

Come on.

A student version is about 100 bucks. The whole CS suite is under 400 bucks for students. And the cost of text books can push 2-5x that much nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, I want cheaper software too. But if you are paying retail prices for academic purposes, you're just not trying.

Apr 4, 2005, 02:08 AM	#4
deanbo macrumors regular Join Date: May 2003	Photshop CS 2 Smart objects certainly intrigues me...

Apr 4, 2005, 02:24 AM	#7
GodBless macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2005	Do any of you have any idea whether or not it will take advantage of Tiger's core image technologies? __________________ When spoken, truth rules out opinion.

Apr 4, 2005, 02:25 AM	#8
ryanw macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2003	sweet Nice shiney new product activiation ...

Apr 4, 2005, 02:32 AM	#10
aafuss1 macrumors 65832 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Australia	Photoshop has a new vanishing point feature and also a improved File Browser is now called Adobe Bridge. Seems like GoLive is not included with Creative Suite 2 Std-was it included in previous standard Creative Suite version? __________________ A.A.'s Mac mini-Core Solo 1.5 GHz,2GB, 60GB,Mac OS X 10.6 iPods:touch 32GB,5th gen 30GB, shuffle 2nd gen 1GB, shuffle 3rd gen 4GB, nano 1st gen 2GB, nano 3rd gen 4GB, nano 5th gen 8GB

Apr 4, 2005, 02:33 AM	#11
BurkDP macrumors newbie Join Date: Apr 2005	GIMPshop? Hi, this is my first post. I heard about someone who had modified the free image manipulation program GIMP by giving a near (copy) of photoshops interface. I have had to use photoshop for a class and it seems a tad bit excessive to charge $600 for it. The website can be found here (http://www.plasticbugs.com/). There are pictures too. It has just been updated for 10.3 and it uses X11 for all you curious types out there.

Apr 4, 2005, 02:04 AM	#2
jared_kipe macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle	From all that I have read, it sounds like this is going to be a very non event. Some say there are really good things, but I've only heard of meager things. Now if they threw in some awesome noise reduction, that would be something to buy.

Apr 4, 2005, 02:08 AM	#5
kjs862 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island	When does it start shipping ?

Apr 4, 2005, 02:34 AM	#12
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Smart Objects seems to be worthy of the upgrade price alone. This, and an improved browser and support for HDRI (been requesting this since 2000) are just plain cool. This be the best Photoshop upgrade since Photoshop introduced Layers and Adjustment Layers.

Apr 4, 2005, 02:40 AM	#14
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Photoshop CS2 has advanced noise reduction tools built-in for high-ISO shooting and JPEG artifact reduction. The latter tool should compete well against other competitors like Binus.

Apr 4, 2005, 03:25 AM	#15
Some_Big_Spoon macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle.. just plain ol' wet whitebread Seattle	e gads! $1299.. makes you feel a little better about the $129 apple charges per year since adobe charges 10x that a year. wish apple would come out with a "Pages" for the web. I like GoLive, but i want it even faster and easier.

Apr 4, 2005, 03:35 AM	#17
Blue Velvet Demi-Goddess (Moderator) Join Date: Jul 2004	The really big story is how InDesign is coming along. How long before we see a downloadable 30-day demo up on Adobe's site? __________________ It's a strange world.

Apr 4, 2005, 04:37 AM	#21
Lacero macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005	Photoshop is a critical application. People work and make a living using this image editing program. So Adobe has every right to charge $1299 or $600 for it, because it is worth it and people are willing to pay the price for it. How many professionals do you see using just iPhoto for their image editing? How many magazine editors rely on iPhoto for color correction, separation, and image manipulation? It may not be worth $600 to you, but for the majority of professionals, it is.

Apr 4, 2005, 05:01 AM	#22
k28 macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2004	Education i currently own Adobe CS education, are there any upgread in education price? or i have to buy a full one?

Apr 4, 2005, 05:19 AM	#24
psycho bob macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leeds, England	Well the biggest news for Photochoppers who work on big files is apparently the 2GB RAM limit has been lifted. You can know access up to twice that amount (4GB). I got this information from Chapter 1 of Martin Evening's book Adobe Photoshop CS2 for Photographers. This is great news, no more dramatic slowdowns while batch editing 16bit TIFFs. __________________ remember if somethings wrong you didn't hear it from me!

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