More on PowerMacs at NAB?

[MacRumors]

Following tentative Page 2 Rumors of PowerMac G5s to be announced at the National Association of Broadcasters, Think Secret confirms that Apple is planning on introducing new PowerMacs at NAB.

Unfortunately, details are slim in the new report, so only the hint of upcoming PowerMac revisions are provided.

The previous unconfirmed Page 2 report hinted at 2GHz-3GHz 970MP based PowerMacs with significant under the hood enhancements -- but should be viewed as unconfirmed specs.

[Chaszmyr]

I think "confirmed" is too strong of a word; ThinkSecret seems fairly uncertain about that publication. Anyway, I have been having great luck this week, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!

[scu]

Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

I think "confirmed" is too strong of a word; ThinkSecret seems fairly uncertain about that publication. Anyway, I have been having great luck this week, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!

So far the folks in the rumor business have been coming up dry with good solid specs and dates.

I would not be surprised to see these PM updates next week since they have been a long time coming. Now that Tiger news is officially out which none of the sites had the courage to report prior to the official announcement, they have build up a little courage and announced the updates for next week.

All I want to see is a 3 ghz system with faster RAM and a kick ass graphics card. This is the only way I can justify Tiger.

[bosrs1]

Originally Posted by scu

So far the folks in the rumor business have been coming up dry with good solid specs and dates.

I would not be surprised to see these PM updates next week since they have been a long time coming. Now that Tiger news is officially out which none of the sites had the courage to report prior to the official announcement, they have build up a little courage and announced the updates for next week.

All I want to see is a 3 ghz system with faster RAM and a kick ass graphics card. This is the only way I can justify Tiger.

How do you figure? TS claimed Tiger was on the first or the 15th... yet it was announced the 12th for a 29th launch. I think TS is no longer a valuable source of info. They've been rooted out and their "source" is now compromised.

[aethier]

are the 970MP's dual core?

has anyone seen the reviews on the Pentium D, and Pentium Extreme Edition (both dual core)

i must say they are quite impressive

[Bear]

Originally Posted by aethier

are the 970MP's dual core?

In a word: Yes!

[cosmoed]

Hopefully they will talk about the iMac/eMac/iBook updates...

I can't afford a FREAKING pm. heh... sorry, I am deep in the apple waiting game so I am almost at my breaking point.

[Rod Rod]

I'll bet this rumor turns out to be true. High Definition video work demands more than today's dual 2.5GHz PM G5 has to offer.

[Chaszmyr]

Originally Posted by aethier

are the 970MP's dual core?

It is unknown whether the new PowerMacs will use 970MPs or 970GXs. The MP is dual core, the GX is not.

[G.Kirby]

Faster CPU?
Better graphics card?
More base RAM?
Blu-Ray?

Gimmi-gimmi-gimmi!

I was right to wait and see what was coming out at NAB, I'm so exited I could puke!

On order: 1X life.

[nuckinfutz]

Bunk info.

Blu-Ray drives. Oh please.

[Eevee]

Originally Posted by nuckinfutz

Bunk info.

Blu-Ray drives. Oh please.

That will be so...sweet if PM will have Blu-Ray drives!

[CmdrLaForge]

Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.

[drewyboy]

Originally Posted by CmdrLaForge

Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.

Ya it also seems to be that the updates are also nothing special. Come on Apple... you need to step it up! I will work for you when I get out of college!!

[pimentoLoaf]

Sounds like the Ultimate FCP/LogicPro/Shake/Motion machine!

[Porchland]

Originally Posted by CmdrLaForge

Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.

Which leaves what for WWDC in June and MacWorld Paris in September? Maybe the two new hardware products that AppleInsider wrote about last week, but I still can't imagine what they would be.

If PMs update at NAM, I think all of the computers will have been updated in the last six months except for the iMac. (Right?)

[Zaty]

Originally Posted by CmdrLaForge

Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.

I don't think so. I would expect a new AlBook revision in August/September. While it would theoretically be a short cycle (for Rev. Es), keep in mind that even if PB Gs are announced at MWSF 06, they won't ship until February.

[Panther]

Originally Posted by CmdrLaForge

Unfortunatly the report says no G5 PB this year. Can it be that the update late Jan will be the only PB update this year ? That we have to wait for new PBs until Jan 06 ? I don't hope so. But lately it looks like the update cycles are getting longer and longer and waiting about a year for new models is nothing special.

Freescale was supposedly working on a dual-core G4... I guess its possible they could put that in the PB to buy themselves time... You'd have to hope they included something like Intel's Speedstep tech to slow the cores (or even stop one of them) if there was no load to conserve power though...

I think folks would be disappointed if they "only" did that... but it would still be like an 80% perf increase for the same clock speed, so not a total disaster by any means

[advocate]

Originally Posted by G.Kirby

Faster CPU?
Better graphics card?
More base RAM?
Blu-Ray?

For the next revision, yes, yes, probably, no. Blu-ray prototypes aren't due to be shown off for a while yet; there's no way there's a shipping product. Well, unless it'll be another year before the next PowerMac bump. Heh heh.

Apple needs to make me want a new computer before I'll buy one, and they have quite a ways to go before that!

[swissmann]

Originally Posted by G.Kirby

Faster CPU?
Better graphics card?
More base RAM?
Blu-Ray?

Gimmi-gimmi-gimmi!

I was right to wait and see what was coming out at NAB, I'm so exited I could puke!

On order: 1X life.

I think the big question will be the blu-ray. I think it will be included given Apple's recent joining to the group. I would love to see Apple jump the market on this one. Along with it of course would have to be FCP 5 with features dependant on Tiger. The problem remains with delivering a Blu-Ray disk to whom to watch on what? - Other PowerMac owners. HD is coming though soon.

[patseguin]

Originally Posted by aethier

has anyone seen the reviews on the Pentium D, and Pentium Extreme Edition (both dual core)

i must say they are quite impressive

That's nice. Do they run OS X?

[RichCoder]

Originally Posted by patseguin

That's nice. Do they run OS X?

Did you miss the point? I think aethier is pointing out that dual core processors have alot to offer.

I for one can't wait for dual dual-core G5 Power Macs.

-rich

[daveL]

Originally Posted by aethier

are the 970MP's dual core?

has anyone seen the reviews on the Pentium D, and Pentium Extreme Edition (both dual core)

i must say they are quite impressive

Actually, it looks like the weakest dual-core processor out there:

http://hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2005-04-5

First article on the page.

[d.perel]

Still would be nice to see computers with these nice specs mentioned.

[blitzkrieg79]

I, for one, believe that the next release of the Powermac will be a significant one meaning that it wont be just a MHZ increase but even such things as dual cores, on chip memory controller, increased cache sizes... Anyway, I pretty much have as much inisghts about future Apple products as most of the people here BUT since that Think Secret lawsuit I think Apple is teasing rumor sites with false info, I wouldnt even be surprised if that the recent IBM documents regarding the 970MP were done on purpose by Apple, I know it sounds silly but why not? considering that there has been too many leaks associated with Apple product releases... Anyway, back to my prediction as I got nothing better to do at this fine hour, people on this forum tend to forget that 970 is a derivative of a Power4 class processor, originally Apple and IBM were thinking of releasing the 970 as a dual from the get go but heat and size (cost) issues kept it stripped... Now, Steve Jobs promised a 3GHZ machine withing a year of the original G5 release but Apple and IBM came out short big time, but the entire processor industry has been stale recently anyway... So, why would Apple and IBM invest their money in something that clearly isnt on par with their expectations... And thats where the Power5 derivative comes in, a totally new structure, dual cores SMTs , better scalability, 40% clock for clock performance improvement over Power4, and from the reading about it it supports simultaneous OS support and isnt this what the rumor sites have been mumbling about for the past couple of months? To make this short, Apple is on a roll right now, they updated the Powermac line basically once over two years (went from 2 to 2.5ghz) so we will see Power5 derivatives faster then some people might think, I just dont see any snse of Apple investing any money in 970 when they supposedly worked with IBM on the Power5 from scratch and Power5 has been out for a year now... Anyway, I dont know when the next Powermac revision will take place but its safe to say it will be between NAB and Mac World SF, all I know is that a lot of people will be positively surprised...